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Dec 4, 2020 10:28:13   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Bison Bud wrote:
I don't remember where precisely, but I've read recently that the use of micro SD cards with the adapter are not recommended by several camera manufacturers as well as photographers and have to wonder why. I guess they do have a second set of contacts that could cause issues, but I've used them almost exclusively for years now and have not had any real issues. In fact, the one SD failure I did have was on a full sized card and I think that I may have caused it by accidentally turning off the camera while it as writing to the card.

In any case, I would be very interested in hearing of any problems others have encountered with the use of the micro cards with adapter in any sort of photographic endeavor. Thanks for your input in advance and good luck and good shooting to all.
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SLOWER, that's it. Otherwise they are the same (when using the adapter).

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Dec 4, 2020 11:02:40   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Bison Bud wrote:
I don't remember where precisely, but I've read recently that the use of micro SD cards with the adapter are not recommended by several camera manufacturers as well as photographers and have to wonder why. I guess they do have a second set of contacts that could cause issues, but I've used them almost exclusively for years now and have not had any real issues. In fact, the one SD failure I did have was on a full sized card and I think that I may have caused it by accidentally turning off the camera while it as writing to the card.

In any case, I would be very interested in hearing of any problems others have encountered with the use of the micro cards with adapter in any sort of photographic endeavor. Thanks for your input in advance and good luck and good shooting to all.
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I used to be pretty negative about the micro cards. Not sure that there is any real disadvantage, but usually no advantage either. My Microsoft Surface will allow me to plug in a MicroSD card, but there's already a card there compensating for limited system memory. I do think it introduces one more possible point of failure, although I recently dug out my old Nikon P3 to play with, and a micro card with adaptor has been in it just fine for many years.

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Dec 4, 2020 11:05:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Rongnongno wrote:
SLOWER, that's it. Otherwise they are the same (when using the adapter).

At a delay about a nanosecond per foot, the delay for the length of the traces (extensions) in the card is negligible.

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Dec 4, 2020 15:00:13   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Longshadow wrote:
At a delay about a nanosecond per foot, the delay for the length of the traces (extensions) in the card is negligible.

But is the only difference. SLOW stands.

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Dec 4, 2020 15:04:58   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Rongnongno wrote:
But is the only difference. SLOW stands.

The adapters are only wiring adapters, how do they slow down the memory access?
There are just wires inside the adapter, no electronics.
I'm puzzled.

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Dec 4, 2020 15:34:01   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Longshadow wrote:
The adapters are only wiring adapters, how do they slow down the memory access?
There are just wires inside the adapter, no electronics.
I'm puzzled.

The chip themselves are slower.

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Dec 4, 2020 16:12:37   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The chip themselves are slower.

Ahhhhhh.
THAT makes a difference in what type of chip one purchases!
Not the fact that it is in an adapter.

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Dec 4, 2020 16:28:08   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The chip themselves are slower.


Faster chips generate more heat. Smaller packages dissipate less heat. So the bigger form factor can always accommodate faster chips. Technology has come a long way allowing higher capacity and faster chips in the small package. But the bigger package will always be able to offer at least a small performance advantage.

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Dec 4, 2020 16:51:41   #
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olemikey wrote:
I like sliding the micro in and out of it's adapter in the camera card slot, as opposed to popping a card in and out of the card slot each time....my thought is much less wear and tear on the actual camera card slot/connections. No scientific proof of less wear and tear, just gut feel.


Avoids wear on the latching mechanism in the camera.

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Dec 4, 2020 16:58:30   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
olemikey wrote:
I like sliding the micro in and out of it's adapter in the camera card slot, as opposed to popping a card in and out of the card slot each time....my thought is much less wear and tear on the actual camera card slot/connections. No scientific proof of less wear and tear, just gut feel.

I can't remove the micro from the adapter when the adapter is in the camera.
I must remove the adapter from the camera in order to change the micro in the adapter.
Maybe my nails aren't long enough.
I'd rather remove the adapter anyway. More to hold on to.

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Dec 4, 2020 17:03:31   #
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larryepage wrote:
I used to be pretty negative about the micro cards. Not sure that there is any real disadvantage, but usually no advantage either. My Microsoft Surface will allow me to plug in a MicroSD card, but there's already a card there compensating for limited system memory. I do think it introduces one more possible point of failure, although I recently dug out my old Nikon P3 to play with, and a micro card with adaptor has been in it just fine for many years.

On the contrary, a micro in an adapter has one LESS possible point of failure. You can remove the micro from the adapter without abusing the card latch buried in the camera’s card slot.

Acoarst common sense says that one should never extract the micro while standing over a storm drain ....

If you’re not shooting raw files at 30fps the potential speed advantage of a full sized card is just a geekish fantasy.

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Dec 5, 2020 05:47:55   #
puku8849
 
Cheaper and smaller.

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Dec 5, 2020 06:11:49   #
buckbrush Loc: Texas then Southwest Oregon
 
[quote=StanMac]What devices, other than phones, use micro-SD cards directly? Just curious.

I believe all of the GoPro cameras use micro-SD cards and many U-tube videos are recorded on micro cards.

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Dec 5, 2020 06:14:32   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
olemikey wrote:
I like sliding the micro in and out of it's adapter in the camera card slot, as opposed to popping a card in and out of the card slot each time....my thought is much less wear and tear on the actual camera card slot/connections. No scientific proof of less wear and tear, just gut feel.



The Micro SD card is far less robust than the SD cards. If you feel that removing the camera is causing wear and tear you can try using a cable, and if your camera is able, use WiFi.

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Dec 5, 2020 06:51:50   #
ISOlate Loc: Maine
 
The biggest problem is speed writing to the card for large images. With my Canon 5DSR it rapidly fills up the internal buffer, and after about 10 shot burst the camera goes into wait mode while writing RAW to a microSD with adapter, this does not happen with UHS-II SD cards or when writing to UDMA-7 CF cards. In my R5 it slows the hi speed burst rate down as well.

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