Shutter count... Hmm?
Feb 17, 2018 09:40:32 #
Judge Judy deals with questionable car deals most every week... There is also what you know and what you can prove in court, and the cost of doing so...
lamiaceae wrote:
Actually none of us would really know would we, it is not going to get on the 6 o'clock news. But you might see you neighbor who sells cars on the street with out a business license get into more trouble and "disappear" for a while more for the fraud than the seller's license and state board of equalization problem over not collecting sales tax issues. Where I live lots of people sell questionable used cars.
Feb 17, 2018 09:44:59 #
DaveC1 wrote:
Please see my post on page one. It appears that Nikon does reset shutter counts sometimes.
Yes, I know but Nikon service will NOT zero the shutter count. As they stated firmware updates may and in some limited instances, but Nikon service does not (or didn't at the time I retired from Nikon in 2013) habitually reset shutter counts. And, as they've stated, shutter counts may vary depending on which third party service provides it. The best thing that you can do is save (and/or make copies of) the bill of sale/work order from Nikon stating that the shutter was being replaced on such and such date. If you can, make a note of the approximate shutter count at that time. There is NO legal demand for exact counts on the wear and tear of a camera (unlike the odometer on a car). You have to have some knowledge of the owner and how they took care of their equipment. As with a car, there are some that I would think nothing of buying from someone with a hundred thousand miles on it and others that I wouldn't purchase with 5 thousand miles on it.
Feb 17, 2018 09:47:05 #
Thanks. I've now made my "good point" post for 2018! 
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lamiaceae wrote:
Good point! 
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Feb 17, 2018 09:49:51 #
Thanks my UHH NC friend. BTW: I lived in Sunset Beach, NC for 13 yrs.
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Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Feb 17, 2018 10:11:38 #
Feb 17, 2018 10:19:19 #
There are other factors to consider than shutter count.
A camera which has low shutter count but also multiple scratches, scuff marks and nicks is not a good sign, as this indicates the previous owner was careless and abusive to the camera, and/or that the camera may have been dropped several times. How well a camera is cared for has at least as much impact on camera life than how often the shutter button is pressed. Perhaps even more so.
A camera which has low shutter count but also multiple scratches, scuff marks and nicks is not a good sign, as this indicates the previous owner was careless and abusive to the camera, and/or that the camera may have been dropped several times. How well a camera is cared for has at least as much impact on camera life than how often the shutter button is pressed. Perhaps even more so.
Feb 17, 2018 10:22:45 #
rook2c4 wrote:
There are other factors to consider than shutter count.
A camera which has low shutter count but also multiple scratches, scuff marks and nicks is not a good sign, as this indicates the previous owner was careless and abusive to the camera, and/or that the camera may have been dropped several times. How well a camera is cared for has at least as much impact on camera life than how often the shutter button is pressed. Perhaps even more so.
A camera which has low shutter count but also multiple scratches, scuff marks and nicks is not a good sign, as this indicates the previous owner was careless and abusive to the camera, and/or that the camera may have been dropped several times. How well a camera is cared for has at least as much impact on camera life than how often the shutter button is pressed. Perhaps even more so.
Agreed.
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Feb 17, 2018 10:50:34 #
Feb 17, 2018 10:51:05 #
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
The reported 100,000 shutter cycles is know an mean time between failure, MTBF, and is an average of the anticipated life of the mechanism. The D810 has a middle life of 100,000, but there are models reported with in excess of 500,000.
This guy is the shutter count fanatic:
https://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/
And yes, if Nikon replaces the shutter mechanism, the shutter count is not rolled back.
This guy is the shutter count fanatic:
https://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/
And yes, if Nikon replaces the shutter mechanism, the shutter count is not rolled back.
Interesting. There were 3 D300s that exceeded 1 million.... I think the model is 10 years old so that means 100,000 per year or 274 per day. Yikes!
Feb 17, 2018 10:52:17 #
bellgamin wrote:
br ==> If I buy a manufacturer refurbished cam... (show quote)
Manufacturer refurbs are only refurbished for specific conditions. Often these are demo or store models returned to the vendor. So, unless there's an underlying mechanical issue that needed repairing, no the shutter is not automatically replaced.
There is a Nikon factory service center in Beverly Hills, CA that is as reliable as you can possibly want. Turn around time is about 2 weeks depending on shop load.
Look, electronic stuff wears out. I recently had a D810 where the SD card slot suddenly did not want to seat a card. Nikon is in the process of replacing the SD tray and fixing an issue with the pop up flash for $240.
Feb 17, 2018 10:54:49 #
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Agreed, but when is the last time you have seen someone go to jail over it??? Sort of like parking in a Handicapped Space, I have never seen anyone get even a ticket for doing that in 40 years of driving...
I have written at least 10, maybe 20.
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Feb 17, 2018 11:15:23 #
PeterBergh wrote:
I have written at least 10, maybe 20.
they should tow the self-absorbed jerks. But keep writing them....
Feb 17, 2018 11:18:44 #
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
they should tow the self-absorbed jerks. But keep writing them....
Please!
Feb 17, 2018 12:16:13 #
DaveC1 wrote:
Please see my post on page one. It appears that Nikon does reset shutter counts sometimes.
Your link is from a discussion that started 8 years ago and even then it was questionable. Currently Nikon does not reset shutter counts. When my D750 went in for shutter replacement it came back with two more clicks than when I sent it.
Feb 17, 2018 12:53:48 #
TheShoe
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mas24 wrote:
Nikon does not reverse shutter counts on their cameras. Even, if you get a new shutter replacement. I remember an old friend telling me, he changed odometer mileages on used cars, when he was a young adult. To fool buyers. He still feels guilty today having done that. Here is an additional link. www.nikonshuttercount.com
For most of the latter half of the 20th century, the odometers of cars had displays that showed a black bar between the fifth and 67th digits. If the odometer was spun backwards even by 1 mile, a bar would break and the separator became white. It was not possible to cheat by turning the odometer backwards. By like token, the bar would break when the mileage count exceeded 100,000 miles. The only way to cheat it was to disconnect the odometer at some appreciable point well below 100,000 and only reconnect it just before showing the car to a prospective buyer. For some cars that meant disconnecting the speedometer, too.
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