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Jan 4, 2018 10:27:49   #
Thruxton Loc: Indiana / California
 
When I finally go in for cataract surgery I'm going to tell the doc I want him to install one of those translucent chips with wi-fi so I can have the camera with me all the time. The wi-if will let me transmit images via the dumb phone I carry in my jeans. If I have enough money I might ask him to put one in each eye so I can shoot stereo. I'll want the ones that come with a holographic view finder for framing and my contacts list preinstalled. Let's see.. 10 yrs, I'll be 85. Yep, I can wait for that.

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Jan 4, 2018 10:50:11   #
mmeador
 
Photography is my hobby, I still use film 35mm, 120 and I even do tintype. Photography is also an art, I try to learn as much as I can to improve my images, I don't think the new technology will completely replace the DSLR, at least for the next 100 years, I have cameras that are over 100 years old and still produce a good image.
Take a good photographer and give him(or her) a 4mp toy camera and they will blow away a newbie with $10K worth of new technology.
I have seen great shots done with a smart phone but I don't want to just point and shoot, I want a picture that people will remember.
I will now jump off of my soapbox.

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Jan 4, 2018 11:09:19   #
AnthonyBiss Loc: Toronto, Ontario
 
TECHNOLOGY IS MOVING SO FAST, WHO KNOWS WHAT IS AROUND THE CORNER - FOR 2018, CHECK OUT THE FUJI SYSTEMS

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Jan 4, 2018 11:20:32   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
mas24 wrote:
I've seen progress in cameras having more megapixels, going back 10 years. A camera with 12.1 megapixels (D700), was considered a lot back then. The improvements in memory cards has been astonishing in the past 10 years. I remember how exciting it was to own a 4gb Lexar SD card. I was blown over when Canon came out with its 50 megapixels camera in their 5Dsr. And when Nikon's D5 came out with a camera that uses dual XQD cards or dual CF cards. That was an advancement. You can get memory cards over 128gb today. Including SD cards. And Nikon's D5 has an ISO capability of 3280000. I said, who would go so high on ISO? Sony was still making DSLRs ten years ago. Now, they don't make them anymore. Only mirrorless and Translucent mirror cameras. Ten years surely makes a difference in photography gear. Stay tuned for the next ten years of progress.
I've seen progress in cameras having more megapixe... (show quote)


EXACTLY!!!

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Jan 4, 2018 11:23:48   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
I’m still wondering about the topic title.

Future camera’s WHAT?

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Jan 4, 2018 11:58:18   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 


Some of you guys just LOVE to argue.

IF this were a message board about grammar and it's usage I could understand the nit pickery.

BUT IT AIN'T.

It's a message board about photography.

No one is perfect... something to consider the NEXT TIME the urge to critique a posters grammar leaps to mind. Just make sure before you do that NONE of YOUR posts contain any mistakes others could find fault with.

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Jan 4, 2018 11:59:46   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The notion of an electronic shutter is not far-fetched to my way of thinking. What is a sensor - it is a collection of microscopic-sized transisters capable of holding a charge. The light from scene falling on the sensor causes it to take on some charge state and this charge state when processed through the camera firnware creates an image file. What do see in the EVF or LCD screen - does that info come from the sensor chrarge state. If so, then why not just save the charge state. Or does the camera have two sensors - one to supply the EVF & LCD visuals and one to make the image file. They would have to be in the same place like a sandwich, yes.

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Jan 4, 2018 12:00:04   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
manpho789 wrote:
I wonder what cameras will be like in, say, 10 years or perhaps less.

The Point and Shoot is dead, with smartphone cameras eclipsing them. Mirrorless makes complete sense, eliminating clunky mechanical stuff. A next step would be entirely electronic shutters, the mechanical shutter being failure prone and having other limitations. That is entirely likely, only quick dumping of the last sensor image (after transfer to buffer) being required. Think how far sensors and semiconductor technology has gone in 10 years. View finders could be eliminated too, with only a real time sensor generated 3” + display showing state of focus, along with various settings and parameters. The bright sunlight objection can be overcome by a detachable viewing hood. That should result in less eye strain and easier composition of the photo.

What all this adds up to is what might be called the “iCamera”. It will be just a flat device that mounts lenses on its front side, and has its view screen on the back side. It might be around 1/2” thick, enough to have a few buttons or wheels on the sides. Details can be argued about, but the electronic shutter, the elimination of the mirror and separate view finder, all adds up to a drastically simpler and lower cost camera. And a more capable and durable one. One might wonder whether Nikon, Canon or Sony would initiate such a product, of if some upstart company does. The big DSLR companies have a dilemma, whether to be first and capture a new camera paradigm, vs undermine their present markets in DSLR cameras.
I wonder what cameras will be like in, say, 10 yea... (show quote)


The Fuji XT-2 is only an inch thick (excluding the articulating screen) And otherwise fits your description except that it has a viewfinder in addition to the LCD. We are already there! Viewfinders should not and will not be eliminated because they contribute to stabilization = holding a light object at arms length is very unstable, and camera shake will always be an obstacle to sharp photos.

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Jan 4, 2018 12:00:48   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
OddJobber wrote:
No, thanks. I don't want my camera ringing when I'm sneaking up on a bird. And switching to vibrate would totally screw up VR.


OK, lets step a bit back..... how about some useful apps that could be brought up at the touch of a button; ND conversion table for long exposures, DOF lens charts, and lots more just to name a couple. hardware is already there... Why Not ?

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Jan 4, 2018 12:21:33   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
John_F wrote:
The notion of an electronic shutter is not far-fetched to my way of thinking. What is a sensor - it is a collection of microscopic-sized transisters capable of holding a charge. The light from scene falling on the sensor causes it to take on some charge state and this charge state when processed through the camera firnware creates an image file. What do see in the EVF or LCD screen - does that info come from the sensor chrarge state. If so, then why not just save the charge state. Or does the camera have two sensors - one to supply the EVF & LCD visuals and one to make the image file. They would have to be in the same place like a sandwich, yes.
The notion of an electronic shutter is not far-fet... (show quote)


Not far fetched? We've been using them for years. There's a ways to go before they replace mechanical shutters entirely, but I use mine almost exclusively on my E-M1.2.

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Jan 4, 2018 12:22:56   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
manpho789 wrote:
@speters

Point and shoot not dead? Not what I read.


My Canon G7X Mark II is alive and well, but is a $700 compact camera with many user controls considered a "point and shoot."

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Jan 4, 2018 12:34:52   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
manpho789 wrote:
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It’s plural isn’t it? It would have had an apostrophe if possessive. But why mention such a fine point of grammar? Why are you “curious”?


Better question: why are you boys so unable to play nice together?

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Jan 4, 2018 12:38:28   #
BebuLamar
 
CatMarley wrote:
The Fuji XT-2 is only an inch thick (excluding the articulating screen) And otherwise fits your description except that it has a viewfinder in addition to the LCD. We are already there! Viewfinders should not and will not be eliminated because they contribute to stabilization = holding a light object at arms length is very unstable, and camera shake will always be an obstacle to sharp photos.


Agree! But my nephew although he always use a DSLR always use the LCD for live view too. However, he has the advantage that he can see the LCD clearly at less than 6" away from his eyes.

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Jan 4, 2018 12:58:07   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
rjaywallace wrote:
I’m still trying to absorb your opening words about so-called (and badly named) “Point & Shoot” cameras being dead.
I will be most happy to show you one that is very much alive and still kicking, but not mine - you have to buy one from B&H. It is called the Fujifilm X100F. Be sure you read the specs carefully before you write its obit.

BTW, the camera featured in your forecast is called a cellphone. Its not a “future” item, they have been out for a while.


As long as the laws of physics are at play, No cellphone or cellphone sized device is going to replace cameras with actual moving (focus on primes or "zoom") lenses. Compact "point and shoot" cameras HAVE declined in sales as most people are not actually interested in"photography" as much as they are interested in decent snapshots. This has been true since the first Kodak Brownie. The Olympus OM-1, The Canon QL-17 and The Kodak Pocket Instamatic all came out in 1972, One guess what sold the most? The "Instamatic" end of the market is satisfied with phone cams. On so called "P&S cameras, Quality Compact fixed lens cameras (Think of the Canon "G" series, for example) still have appeal to the sort who would have bought a QL-17. I love the convenience of my phone's camera, but it's just for quick snapshots. But I always have a compact "P&S" (both phone and P&S are Samsung, LOL) around for "better" photos (and video) when I need something pocketable, but has a better lens and sensor than a phone!

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Jan 4, 2018 13:01:17   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Agree! But my nephew although he always use a DSLR always use the LCD for live view too. However, he has the advantage that he can see the LCD clearly at less than 6" away from his eyes.


The only people that can do that are under 40, and most of them are not buying expensive cameras. The camera buying crowd all need reading glasses!

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