Future camera’s
Jan 3, 2018 12:04:57 #
I wonder what cameras will be like in, say, 10 years or perhaps less.
The Point and Shoot is dead, with smartphone cameras eclipsing them. Mirrorless makes complete sense, eliminating clunky mechanical stuff. A next step would be entirely electronic shutters, the mechanical shutter being failure prone and having other limitations. That is entirely likely, only quick dumping of the last sensor image (after transfer to buffer) being required. Think how far sensors and semiconductor technology has gone in 10 years. View finders could be eliminated too, with only a real time sensor generated 3” + display showing state of focus, along with various settings and parameters. The bright sunlight objection can be overcome by a detachable viewing hood. That should result in less eye strain and easier composition of the photo.
What all this adds up to is what might be called the “iCamera”. It will be just a flat device that mounts lenses on its front side, and has its view screen on the back side. It might be around 1/2” thick, enough to have a few buttons or wheels on the sides. Details can be argued about, but the electronic shutter, the elimination of the mirror and separate view finder, all adds up to a drastically simpler and lower cost camera. And a more capable and durable one. One might wonder whether Nikon, Canon or Sony would initiate such a product, of if some upstart company does. The big DSLR companies have a dilemma, whether to be first and capture a new camera paradigm, vs undermine their present markets in DSLR cameras.
The Point and Shoot is dead, with smartphone cameras eclipsing them. Mirrorless makes complete sense, eliminating clunky mechanical stuff. A next step would be entirely electronic shutters, the mechanical shutter being failure prone and having other limitations. That is entirely likely, only quick dumping of the last sensor image (after transfer to buffer) being required. Think how far sensors and semiconductor technology has gone in 10 years. View finders could be eliminated too, with only a real time sensor generated 3” + display showing state of focus, along with various settings and parameters. The bright sunlight objection can be overcome by a detachable viewing hood. That should result in less eye strain and easier composition of the photo.
What all this adds up to is what might be called the “iCamera”. It will be just a flat device that mounts lenses on its front side, and has its view screen on the back side. It might be around 1/2” thick, enough to have a few buttons or wheels on the sides. Details can be argued about, but the electronic shutter, the elimination of the mirror and separate view finder, all adds up to a drastically simpler and lower cost camera. And a more capable and durable one. One might wonder whether Nikon, Canon or Sony would initiate such a product, of if some upstart company does. The big DSLR companies have a dilemma, whether to be first and capture a new camera paradigm, vs undermine their present markets in DSLR cameras.
Jan 3, 2018 12:19:57 #
manpho789 wrote:
.... all adds up to a drastically simpler and lower cost camera. And a more capable and durable one.
Who are you kidding?
Your "innovative" iCamera describes everything to be hated in an iPhone camera, and you took away the phone!
Jan 3, 2018 12:24:16 #
Jan 3, 2018 12:25:54 #
I’m still trying to absorb your opening words about so-called (and badly named) “Point & Shoot” cameras being dead.
I will be most happy to show you one that is very much alive and still kicking, but not mine - you have to buy one from B&H. It is called the Fujifilm X100F. Be sure you read the specs carefully before you write its obit.
BTW, the camera featured in your forecast is called a cellphone. Its not a “future” item, they have been out for a while.
I will be most happy to show you one that is very much alive and still kicking, but not mine - you have to buy one from B&H. It is called the Fujifilm X100F. Be sure you read the specs carefully before you write its obit.
BTW, the camera featured in your forecast is called a cellphone. Its not a “future” item, they have been out for a while.
Jan 3, 2018 12:30:55 #
manpho789 wrote:
I wonder what cameras will be like in, say, 10 yea... (show quote)
I think you are totally wrong.
All we need is an interface, that we can switch off, to our minds so others can see what we see.
Jan 3, 2018 13:17:25 #
RichardTaylor wrote:
I think you are totally wrong.
All we need is an interface, that we can switch off, to our minds so others can see what we see.
All we need is an interface, that we can switch off, to our minds so others can see what we see.
On the flip side what about REAL cameras having a phone... hows that for innovation ?
Jan 3, 2018 13:47:02 #
MrBob wrote:
On the flip side what about REAL cameras having a phone... hows that for innovation ?
No, thanks. I don't want my camera ringing when I'm sneaking up on a bird. And switching to vibrate would totally screw up VR.
Jan 3, 2018 13:58:44 #
Strangely, no one mentioned mirror-less, and shutterless, both big advantages in the future, both economically and functionally. Why stay with clunky mechanical stuff? And no, what I described was NOT a cellphone. Can you mount a big lens on a cellphone? And point and shoot market is essentially dead, small numbers excepted.
Jan 3, 2018 14:01:50 #
manpho789 wrote:
Strangely, no one mentioned mirror-less, and shutterless, both big advantages in the future, both economically and functionally. Why stay with clunky mechanical stuff? And no, what I described was NOT a cellphone. Can you mount a big lens on a cellphone? And point and shoot market is essentially dead, small numbers excepted.
I have talked about mirrorless and shutter less cameras but not in the form you described. I have said that if Nikon were to introduce new mirrorless full frame they might as well make it shutterless. Right now shutterless still have some problems but in the near future it won't be. There is a lot of advantages using shutterless including higher accuracy, low maintenance, higher top speed.
Jan 3, 2018 14:17:10 #
manpho789 wrote:
I wonder what cameras will be like in, say, 10 yea... (show quote)
Check these out:
http://sonyglobal.scene7.com/is/image/gwtprod/7904d9dba27b592d424c3070dcff42cb?fmt=pjpeg&wid=1014&hei=396&bgcolor=F1F5F9&bgc=F1F5F9
https://www.dpreview.com/products/sony/slrs/sony_ilceqx1
https://www.theverge.com/2013/9/27/4774848/sony-cyber-shot-qx10-qx100-review
Jan 3, 2018 14:55:10 #
manpho789 wrote:
I wonder what cameras will be like in, say, 10 yea... (show quote)
I'm more concerned with today than 10 years from now. You can fantasize all you want about the future, but you can't predict it.
Jan 3, 2018 15:07:23 #
The main things I am looking forward to are ever increasing dynamic range, and increasingly better high ISO performance. And the point and shoot of today IS the cell phone camera, which is already better than point and shoot cameras of the past, but will keep improving also.
Jan 3, 2018 15:38:41 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
CHOLLY wrote:
Check these out: br br img http://sonyglobal.sce... (show quote)
Too big! Because the market wasn't big enough, Olympus stopped making the O-1A. But if you can find one used or refurbished with the 14-42mm lense, the whole setup is 2.2" dia. X 3" long.
Jan 3, 2018 15:44:10 #
Mac wrote:
I'm more concerned with today than 10 years from now. You can fantasize all you want about the future, but you can't predict it.
Somebody has to fantasize about the future or their would be no progress. But, there are better things to fantasize about.
--
Jan 3, 2018 15:56:05 #
Bill_de wrote:
Somebody has to fantasize about the future or their would be no progress. But, there are better things to fantasize about.
--
--
Very true on both.
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.