Future camera’s
Jan 3, 2018 16:00:23 #
wdross wrote:
Too big! Because the market wasn't big enough, Olympus stopped making the O-1A. But if you can find one used or refurbished with the 14-42mm lense, the whole setup is 2.2" dia. X 3" long.
^^^CERTAINLY bigger than the OP suggested. But a great compromise between those who want the portability of cell phone photography with those who wish to have or NEED mirrorless camera flexibility and image quality.
You might say it's a BRIDGE option.
Jan 3, 2018 16:08:01 #
The Big lens is desirable, but a cellphone still has tiny sensor. The camera I’m imagining has a big sensor, ASPC-C or FF. It’s a real camera, just shedding the negative attributes of present DSLRs (mirror, mechanical shutter).
Jan 3, 2018 16:13:36 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
CHOLLY wrote:
^^^CERTAINLY bigger than the OP suggested. But a great compromise between those who want the portability of cell phone photography with those who wish to have or NEED mirrorless camera flexibility and image quality.
You might say it's a BRIDGE option.
You might say it's a BRIDGE option.
Jan 3, 2018 16:32:59 #
manpho789 wrote:
The Big lens is desirable, but a cellphone still has tiny sensor. The camera I’m imagining has a big sensor, ASPC-C or FF. It’s a real camera, just shedding the negative attributes of present DSLRs (mirror, mechanical shutter).
None of the Sony's shown above are lenses; they are full blown MIRRORLESS Cameras that you can attach to and control with your smartphone.
The QX1 not only offers and APS-C sized sensor, but interchangeable lenses too.
The other two have fixed lenses with optical zooms of 10X and 100X respectively, and a minimum 1" imaging sensor with 20 megapixels.
NO smartphone at the time these "accessories" went to market or even NOW presents the flexibility or image quality possible with these units... which are ALL small enough to fit in your pocket and weigh just a few ounces.
They offer the best of both worlds.
Jan 3, 2018 16:55:05 #
CHOLLY wrote:
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Not sure I see the value proposition of these devices. The advantage of cell phone photography is that the camera is always with you. Would you always carry these accessories around? Maybe the cost of the accessories is less than that of a self-contained camera?
Jan 3, 2018 16:59:46 #
manpho789 wrote:
I wonder what cameras will be like in, say, 10 yea... (show quote)
First off, Point & Shoots are not dead ( they are going strong) and what you suggest would be a nightmare, I hope, will never materialize!!!
Jan 3, 2018 22:05:47 #
Jan 3, 2018 22:12:16 #
@CHOLLY
From the pictures you showed I was assuming they were add-on lenses for iPhones. But as you point out, they are self standing cameras, controlled by an iPhone. That’s an interesting concept. There are many possibilities in things to come and, for me at least, it’s fun to think about.
From the pictures you showed I was assuming they were add-on lenses for iPhones. But as you point out, they are self standing cameras, controlled by an iPhone. That’s an interesting concept. There are many possibilities in things to come and, for me at least, it’s fun to think about.
Jan 4, 2018 02:46:48 #
DWU2 wrote:
Not sure I see the value proposition of these devices. The advantage of cell phone photography is that the camera is always with you. Would you always carry these accessories around? Maybe the cost of the accessories is less than that of a self-contained camera?
Dan, I think you missed the point. The Sony QX series is SPECIFICALLY for someone who wishes for more control and better image quality than normally available with just the on-board system of a smartphone... yet is unwilling to lug around either a traditional mirrorless or DSLR camera.
The cost is close to what you would pay for an equally capable traditional camera, but the advantage is in size, weight, and the ability to connect directly to your phone via NFC, Blu-tooth, or WiFi.
So if you... like ME... are happy with carrying your camera for imaging, then no; these products will not appeal to you. But then WE weren't the target consumer, and Sony has been selling these rascals since 2014.
Jan 4, 2018 02:48:34 #
manpho789 wrote:
I wonder what cameras will be like in, say, 10 yea... (show quote)
I mostly agree with a few exceptions. I like a viewfinder if only to keep the camera close to my body for stability. I also like easy/fast access to controls so I think the body shape of an SLR will still be around. Ergonomics in a nutshell. Thumb & finger dials, dedicated buttons for ISO, exposure compensation, shooting modes, focus modes, etc...
Jan 4, 2018 02:48:58 #
manpho789 wrote:
@CHOLLY
From the pictures you showed I was assuming they were add-on lenses for iPhones. But as you point out, they are self standing cameras, controlled by an iPhone. That’s an interesting concept. There are many possibilities in things to come and, for me at least, it’s fun to think about.
From the pictures you showed I was assuming they were add-on lenses for iPhones. But as you point out, they are self standing cameras, controlled by an iPhone. That’s an interesting concept. There are many possibilities in things to come and, for me at least, it’s fun to think about.
Yep... but pretty much ANY smartphone that can download Sony's Play Memories App can control them.
Unfortunately that leaves Windows Phone users in the cold... but iPhone and Android owners are good.
Jan 4, 2018 06:32:41 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
I've seen progress in cameras having more megapixels, going back 10 years. A camera with 12.1 megapixels (D700), was considered a lot back then. The improvements in memory cards has been astonishing in the past 10 years. I remember how exciting it was to own a 4gb Lexar SD card. I was blown over when Canon came out with its 50 megapixels camera in their 5Dsr. And when Nikon's D5 came out with a camera that uses dual XQD cards or dual CF cards. That was an advancement. You can get memory cards over 128gb today. Including SD cards. And Nikon's D5 has an ISO capability of 3280000. I said, who would go so high on ISO? Sony was still making DSLRs ten years ago. Now, they don't make them anymore. Only mirrorless and Translucent mirror cameras. Ten years surely makes a difference in photography gear. Stay tuned for the next ten years of progress.
Jan 4, 2018 06:39:57 #
manpho789 wrote:
I wonder what cameras will be like in, say, 10 yea... (show quote)
I think you're on to something here. The problem is when you have millions of dollars wrapped up in one product line, it's very hard to move to a different one. I like compact cameras, but I prefer the big, heavy DSLR, just as I prefer a big, heavy desktop computer to a little Apple Air. Yes, I'm a bit old fashioned.
The trick for manufacturers to to know what technology to invest millions of dollars into and hope that technology becomes adopted by the public. So many successful companies have failed because they could not predict the future. Regardless how good a new product is, if the public doesn't buy it in large numbers, it will fail.
Jan 4, 2018 06:41:40 #
sloscheider wrote:
I mostly agree with a few exceptions. I like a viewfinder if only to keep the camera close to my body for stability.
Yes! When was the last time you saw a soldier or a hunter hold a rifle out in front of himself to fire it? The body provides stability, and stability is one of the most important factors in getting a sharp shot.
Jan 4, 2018 07:19:55 #
I have always sustained that the camera of the future will be mirrorless. When Olympus and Panasonic ventured into the mirrorless field, I would say about 10 years ago or perhaps a little bit more, the big companies did not pay attention. Canon and Nikon continued to make digital cameras in old film camera bodies.
Olympus did the contrary, they began to manufacture new cameras with the new technology by which the mirror was eliminated. Cameras could be made smaller, lighter and more practical for use. Olympus decided to go with the mirrorless 4:3 system, which uses the full sensor as a full frame camera. Although the size of the sensor is smaller than an APS (cropped) sensor image quality is excellent. All electronic shutters are a reality today and electronic viewfinders continue to get better. My Olympus EM-10 Mk II has an OLED (Organic Light Emitting Diode) viewfinder that I find awesome. It is bright and it is the closest thing to an optical viewfinder that I have seen although at times it is too bright if the light is intense. I am sure that can be adjusted but I have not researched it.
To make this short, Fuji and Sony are also making excellent mirrorless cameras and right now many professionals use them. I do not know about Canon but Nikon will introduce a new mirrorless, rumors say it could be a full frame, this year although they are already late in this game. I am sure Pentax is working on a similar project.
Yes, the future is mirrorless.
Olympus did the contrary, they began to manufacture new cameras with the new technology by which the mirror was eliminated. Cameras could be made smaller, lighter and more practical for use. Olympus decided to go with the mirrorless 4:3 system, which uses the full sensor as a full frame camera. Although the size of the sensor is smaller than an APS (cropped) sensor image quality is excellent. All electronic shutters are a reality today and electronic viewfinders continue to get better. My Olympus EM-10 Mk II has an OLED (Organic Light Emitting Diode) viewfinder that I find awesome. It is bright and it is the closest thing to an optical viewfinder that I have seen although at times it is too bright if the light is intense. I am sure that can be adjusted but I have not researched it.
To make this short, Fuji and Sony are also making excellent mirrorless cameras and right now many professionals use them. I do not know about Canon but Nikon will introduce a new mirrorless, rumors say it could be a full frame, this year although they are already late in this game. I am sure Pentax is working on a similar project.
Yes, the future is mirrorless.
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