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Canon EF 1.4 X III, EF 100-400 L II, & 7DII - Anyone Use This Combo?
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Aug 27, 2016 16:52:12   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
markngolf wrote:
Will do.
Mark


Hate to say it, but putting down the fox would probably be the humane thing to do. Right now it is living a tormented life. Notice how torn up it's ears are from scratching? I don't know that a rehabilitater can, or will, do anything for it. The wardens will know if there are available options. Good luck!

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Aug 27, 2016 17:03:41   #
dugole Loc: Matawan, New Jersey
 
LFingar wrote:
I am considering getting the Canon 1.4 teleconverter to give my 100-400 L II more reach on my 7DII. I am sure some of you have used this combo. Would appreciate your comments as far as IQ, focus speed, and general ease of use. I have stayed away from teleconverters in the past because I felt they compromised quality but it seems that may not be as much of an issue any more. Of course, if Canon would just come out with a 150-600....!


I use that combo with my 5D Mk III. With the Mk III teleconverter focus speed is much, much quicker than when I used the previous version. IQ degrades only slightly - not so noticeable using minimal cropping. The major drawback is that with this combo I only get the use of the center focal point - tough with moving objects such as BIFs. I'm upgrading to the 5D Mk IV (1st on the waiting list) in 10 days - so using the 100-400 with the 1.4 I will available all focal points at F8. I think that will allow me to use the 1.4 much more often. The 100-400/1.4 combo is comfortable to use with the single focal point being the only drawback as far as I'm concerned.

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Aug 27, 2016 17:15:17   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Thanks for clarifying. I did not think it was personal. Sometimes, maybe often, that happens with threads on UHH.
Mark
TriX wrote:
My comment/question wasn't directed at you Mark (but always glad for your opinion) 😀 It was in response to the assertion "The lens being discussed is has criteria that precludes it from being able to autofocus."

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Aug 27, 2016 18:00:08   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
markngolf wrote:
Thanks. I was only adding that AF does work with my combo. I was trying to be helpful. If my response was 'off the mark", I apologize.
Mark


And I apologize if the impression was given that required you to do so. This discussion is getting to the "meat" of an important issue. A/F issues are becoming more prevalent with newer cameras. The 1-DX needed a firmware update to allow it. Now, selective cameras are being included in the group that are capable of doing so. Hopefully, they all will be able to A/F at any aperture setting in the near future. Discussion as this are good learning points for us all. Not everyone understands the "whys" and the "why nots" involved and these discussions get us all into the topic. We all can learn, that is why many of us are here.

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Aug 27, 2016 18:03:53   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Go for it. Make sure you get the mark III. Don't bother with the 2x teleconverter. Your autofocus will not work with that. The old version of the 100-400 wouldn't work with the 1.4x, so this is a major improvement with the 7DMkII, 100-400MkII and the 1.4xMkIII. You will see very little difference in IQ, but in low light conditions you will notice some degradation in image quality.


The old version won't work with the 1.4X!!!!!
Then I guess I had better stop using it. Or did you mean the 1.4X II? and the 100-400 mk I?
My 100-400 mk I and the 1.4X III work just fine together.

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Aug 27, 2016 20:31:38   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
dugole wrote:
I use that combo with my 5D Mk III. With the Mk III teleconverter focus speed is much, much quicker than when I used the previous version. IQ degrades only slightly - not so noticeable using minimal cropping. The major drawback is that with this combo I only get the use of the center focal point - tough with moving objects such as BIFs. I'm upgrading to the 5D Mk IV (1st on the waiting list) in 10 days - so using the 100-400 with the 1.4 I will available all focal points at F8. I think that will allow me to use the 1.4 much more often. The 100-400/1.4 combo is comfortable to use with the single focal point being the only drawback as far as I'm concerned.
I use that combo with my 5D Mk III. With the Mk I... (show quote)
Another magic of the 80D, 1DXII and now the 5DIV is the use of 61 AF points with lenses / extender combinations at f/8. This is a game changer for anyone with equipment that will exercise this feature.

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Aug 27, 2016 22:58:27   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Another magic of the 80D, 1DXII and now the 5DIV is the use of 61 AF points with lenses / extender combinations at f/8. This is a game changer for anyone with equipment that will exercise this feature.

Alas the 80D only does 27 cross type AF at f/8.
only

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Aug 28, 2016 06:08:32   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
robertjerl wrote:
Alas the 80D only does 27 cross type AF at f/8.
only
Oh well ... 27 is still greater than 1 for all cameras before ...

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Aug 28, 2016 08:30:12   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Personally, I would not go out in the field without a 1.4x. I now have two so I can use them with both my 7DII and 1DX when I am chasing birds. I never seem to have enough reach. As noted, with the 7DII, considering the combo will put you at f/8, you are going to need good light to keep the ISO relatively low. What I find with the 7DII, if I can get close to 50% of the frame filled with the subject, and of coarse you are well focused, at an ISO at or below 800, you can get pretty good images. On the other hand, if you need to do much cropping to get the composition you are looking for and the ISO is up you are going to notice some noise which may or may not bother you. It does me. You can get rid of it in post, but assuming it is impacting your subject, things can get a little soft. From what I understand, you have a great lens in the 100/400II and you definitely need a 1.4x to go along with it. And you have a combo that is relatively light so with practice, you should be able to hand hold it, a great advantage with moving subjects. But from my perspective, once you put that combo on a full frame camera with a relatively fast burst speed, you are really going to be stoked.

Just me. Get it.

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Aug 28, 2016 08:40:35   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Thanks everyone for your comments and info. I just ordered the EF 1.4X III from B&H. I'll have it Tuesday.

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Aug 28, 2016 08:44:56   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
LFingar wrote:
I am considering getting the Canon 1.4 teleconverter to give my 100-400 L II more reach on my 7DII. I am sure some of you have used this combo. Would appreciate your comments as far as IQ, focus speed, and general ease of use. I have stayed away from teleconverters in the past because I felt they compromised quality but it seems that may not be as much of an issue any more. Of course, if Canon would just come out with a 150-600....!


Especially for only a 1.4X FOV reduction, cropping with pixel enlargement on a decent high density sensor is a better all around solution IMO.

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Aug 28, 2016 09:22:38   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
imagemeister wrote:
Especially for only a 1.4X FOV reduction, cropping with pixel enlargement on a decent high density sensor is a better all around solution IMO.


I realize this is a hard pill to swallow and you will feel guilty for even thinking about it ! ( and NOT even spending any money ! )

But, I have used the Canon 300 2.8 with Sony's Clear Image Zoom and with Canon's 2XII - so I do speak with experience. The results are astounding - IMO.

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Aug 28, 2016 09:38:21   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
LFingar wrote:
I am considering getting the Canon 1.4 teleconverter to give my 100-400 L II more reach on my 7DII. I am sure some of you have used this combo. Would appreciate your comments as far as IQ, focus speed, and general ease of use. I have stayed away from teleconverters in the past because I felt they compromised quality but it seems that may not be as much of an issue any more. Of course, if Canon would just come out with a 150-600....!

Remember, the combo will make the maximum aperture f/8 and on the 7D Mark II you will only be able to use the center point for AF. You probably already knew this, but just making sure.

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Aug 28, 2016 09:40:59   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
LFingar wrote:
Thanks everyone for your comments and info. I just ordered the EF 1.4X III from B&H. I'll have it Tuesday.

Great, congratulations. It and the 100-400 mm version II work great together.

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Aug 28, 2016 09:49:16   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
imagemeister wrote:
Especially for only a 1.4X FOV reduction, cropping with pixel enlargement on a decent high density sensor is a better all around solution IMO.

"pixel enlargement" Larry, what are you talking about?

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