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Canon EF 1.4 X III, EF 100-400 L II, & 7DII - Anyone Use This Combo?
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Aug 30, 2016 17:44:24   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
LiamRowan wrote:
As it has been part of this thread, please indicate whether/how AF works on each of these two cameras (points available, etc.).


Ah yes, autofocus! With the 6D I only had manual focus. Didn't spend enough time with it on that body to see if it was just my settings. With the 7DII, as expected, f/8 was the limit. Single center-point and the 2 expanded modes were also the only options, as expected. Focus was definitely slower, although that wasn't necessarily bad. Tracking a single bird across the sky it would stay in focus longer if the bird got out of the focus area for short periods instead of immediately focusing off into infinity as it would without the extender. Made it easier to track. Here's a BIF shot I managed to get. Not great but not bad under the circumstances. I was experimenting with my exposure meter options and the result is a bit dark.


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Aug 30, 2016 17:51:19   #
Regis Loc: Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
 
LFingar wrote:
Yes it will, as I found out when I locked my keys in my truck down at the river this morning!
Went there to play with my new 1.4x extender that I picked up at the UPS terminal this morning. I like the added reach! Haven't micro-adjusted the camera to the lens yet but here are some comparison shots I did for anyone who may be interested. The 2 shots of the young eagle were both with (560mm) and without (400mm) the extender. It was about 1100' away from me on an island in the river. Wouldn't cooperate and come any closer today! The two shots of the lighthouse were both at 560mm, but one was taken with my 7DII (APS-C) and the other with my 6D (full frame). I apologize for the overall poor IQ. Just started learning the best way to use this combo!
Yes it will, as I found out when I locked my keys ... (show quote)


The 1.4 extender does a nice job.

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Aug 30, 2016 17:52:33   #
LiamRowan Loc: Michigan
 
LFingar wrote:
Ah yes, autofocus! With the 6D I only had manual focus. Didn't spend enough time with it on that body to see if it was just my settings. With the 7DII, as expected, f/8 was the limit. Single center-point and the 2 expanded modes were also the only options, as expected. Focus was definitely slower, although that wasn't necessarily bad. Tracking a single bird across the sky it would stay in focus longer if the bird got out of the focus area for short periods instead of immediately focusing off into infinity as it would without the extender. Made it easier to track. Here's a BIF shot I managed to get. Not great but not bad under the circumstances. I was experimenting with my exposure meter options and the result is a bit dark.
Ah yes, autofocus! With the 6D I only had manual f... (show quote)


I find that with dark birds I have to use +1 2/3 exposure adjustment, further limiting the use of f8 to really bright light. Of course then the sky is overexposing--it's a tough balancing act. I see the bird was shot at ISO 200. You could probably go to 400 to partially compensate for the slower shutter speed that results from using positive exposure adjustment. With ISO 200 your shutter was at 1/1000--can't go too much slower without blurring.

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Aug 30, 2016 17:56:44   #
grossoboe
 
That's a pretty good shot (aside from being too dark). I have found the best success with use auto focus Case #2 in it's default mode (-1,0,0) or all the sliders all the way to the left, and use that same setting for perched birds as well. If you take the extender off, then use the appropriate Case number that suits you best for the focus pattern you choose and the environmental conditions.

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Aug 30, 2016 18:29:47   #
grossoboe
 
The IS on this lens does a super job...In AV mode I've been able to move right with the bird and get by with a slower shutter speed. You'll find that if the exposure is right on, noise no longer is a big issue. I've stopped action at 1/800 shutter speed if I'm moving right with the bird.

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Aug 30, 2016 18:33:26   #
grossoboe
 
Arthur Morris uses ISO 400 all the time, or so he says. So, far I've been using auto ISO and getting by just fine, but you are right, conditions need to be fairly bright for best results.

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Aug 31, 2016 05:46:12   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Regis wrote:
The 1.4 extender does a nice job.


Thank You, but I can already see that to get the type of results you do takes a lot of practice and skill!

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Aug 31, 2016 05:51:21   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
LiamRowan wrote:
I find that with dark birds I have to use +1 2/3 exposure adjustment, further limiting the use of f8 to really bright light. Of course then the sky is overexposing--it's a tough balancing act. I see the bird was shot at ISO 200. You could probably go to 400 to partially compensate for the slower shutter speed that results from using positive exposure adjustment. With ISO 200 your shutter was at 1/1000--can't go too much slower without blurring.


I try to stay between 1/1000 and 1/2000. As far as exposure though, I wish it was as simple! A snowy white egret one second and a dark eagle the next is a bit of a challenge!

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Aug 31, 2016 15:42:15   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
LFingar wrote:
I try to stay between 1/1000 and 1/2000. As far as exposure though, I wish it was as simple! A snowy white egret one second and a dark eagle the next is a bit of a challenge!


Here are some hummingbirds I took this afternoon on my backyard feeders. All were taken with Canon 7D mark 2, Canon EF 100-400 5.6 L IS II. Number 3-5 were taken with same camera and lens, but added Canon 1.4x III extender. All were hand held, light varied from bright sunlight to cloudy. Please note that I have 2 feeders about 10 feet apart so magnification may appear a little different. All are uncropped and not processed, straight out of the camera, JPEG.


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Aug 31, 2016 16:20:45   #
LiamRowan Loc: Michigan
 
LFingar wrote:
I try to stay between 1/1000 and 1/2000. As far as exposure though, I wish it was as simple! A snowy white egret one second and a dark eagle the next is a bit of a challenge!


I have a similar issue; I often photograph at a rookery that hosts both white egrets and blue herons, and also has white swans frequent the area. What I do is keep the exposure information showing in the viewfinder (hit Info button three times on Canon 7DII) and the exposure compensation feature selected. So when I need to switch from +1 1/3 to zero quickly, all I have to do is hit the Q button and rotate the top dial since the shooting selections will come up with exposure comp activated. Total time to change compensation is less than a second with a little practice, or even less. I take an extra battery or two because of the extra drain, and turn of the screen in quieter moments.

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