Curious, what do you do with your photos after they come out of the camera? Where do you see a significant difference with a photo that fits the iPhone range? There is no argument about the "difficult" shots. If you see a difference in print, how large are you going?

I follow these discussions because we make 2-3 big trips a year--3 weeks flying across oceans. I still can't bring myself to leave my "real camera" behind, but it's a pain in the backside for a 77 YO to lug around traveling by train.

I take several hundred photos on a trip, hoping to get 1 or 2 to print on my Pro-1000 and hang on the wall, mostly landscapes and castles. There is no question that in "most" difficult situations (birds at d distance or in flight, fast objects in poor light) that the big boy camera works better, and certainly the reach of a 400-600 lens is interesting.

Just returned from London--first photo that really got my attention was an iPhone14 pic taken a 12MP main lens, standing on the Westminster Bridge capturing the Eye with amazing light and sky. Did absolutely nothing to the photo other than a small crop to 16X20 and there is no way that anyone looking at that print without a loupe would have any idea about its capture. Can't compare to my other camera because we set out that morning knowing we would walk at least 7-8 miles in an area we had already seen.

Since my main goal of the trips is the travel and the photography is secondary (I only shoot what I stumble upon and use the available light), I think our next trip I will gamble and take only the phone, but I've been thinking that for a couple of years.

BTW, I bought a strong, collapsable selfie stick and a remote shutter release and have a ton of fun just playing with that.

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If you have 6 days in Prague, I would suggest a day trip to the Saxon Switzerland National Park with a stop at Kongstein Fortress. We had four, and a private driver was very affordable, but there are plenty of tours available.

Both cities are great, you should have a wonderful trip.

Nice savings, because so many folks are doing just that--the local Best Buy here in Phoenix just closed. Pretty soon there will be nowhere to go to have the ability to hold or sample cameras.

Never is a long time! They won't likely replace them in my lifetime, but by the time my grandkids are grandparents I would be willing to bet that mirrorless tech as known today is a relic. When I was a lad the only one with a wrist radio was Dick Tracy, and only the Jetson's had TV's that hung on the wall. Phone cams won't do some things "real cameras" can do but the gap is much less than many of you want to admit. I wouldn't be shocked if my grandkids were doing holographic photography with a cam the size of my phone.

I'm less than 48 hours from traveling to multiple countries to visit Christmas Markets and still have not decided whether or not to take my Sony RX10 IV, I've already made that compromise from FF, or just go with the iPhone 14. My goal when I travel is to capture 2 or 3 shots that I like enough to put on my wall in 11x14 to 16x24 size. My prediction about the future is different than those that say these mini cams will never replace full frame cameras. I believe that in the not too distant future full frame cameras will become special use items. I'm guessing that if this board were around in the 90's the old timers (I'm 76) would have said "digital cameras are cute, but they will never replace film and darkroom", and a few still feel that way (special use). Don't bet against the march of tech, and if you doubt iPhones can make solid 16x24 prints you should look again.

Thank you! It should be an amazing trip, we will travel with our daughter and son-in-law. We will see several cities we have not visited before, including Budapest, Prague and Berlin, and lots of Christmas markets/lights. Cherry on the sundae is our 50th anniversary in Vienna. Don't think I can go too far wrong.

Thanks. I continue to go back and forth minute to minute. A comment about the 14 Pro, it's got the best "bright sun screen" I have seen--by a lot. I have room to take the Sony, and may do just what you suggest and take it out occasionally. We have one day on the trip where we will be visiting a beautiful national park using a private driver--that's the one place I'm afraid I might miss a shot I really want. Taking our daughter with us, and she shoots a Canon 5D III with pro glass--I could steal one of her shots, but that takes some of the fun out of it. I think I have what some would call a first world problem.

I keep following these iPhone threads because we are about to spend 3 weeks in Europe, a lot of train travel and some Christmas markets. Bought a 14 Pro, and still deciding whether to leave my Sony RX10IV home--the quality is that close. The obvious difference is the 600mm reach with the Sony. Phone cameras were called "garbage" because they won't capture a bird in flight at 500 yards, which is true, but it doesn't require 20 lbs of gear plus a tripod to capture "all the shots" you might want to bring home. I switched to the Sony RX10 not because it was better than my Canon, but because I got the 24-600 lens without carrying multiple lenses and hoping I had the right one in place when the moment arrived. If you are only able or willing to carry one tool, a Swiss Army Knife isn't a bad choice, and cam phones are definitely that. I'm talking myself into the 14 Pro only. Side note, about 3 years ago my wife and I went to see the Northern Lights--I spent hours with a tripod, using multiple settings and got some great pics--my wife used an iPhone 11, did some point and shoot, and also got some great pics, capable of being printed up to at least 16x24 which is my printer's limit.

If shutter speed is your issue, you probably need to update your phone, or perhaps get an aftermarket app to control the camera.

Used to suck in daylight--my new iPhone 14 is brilliantly clear in every light I've put it in. I've tried to find a spot where I can't view the screen with no success so far. I traded a 13 that was very hard to see in bright sunlight. Huge improvement.

If you turn the iPhone sideways, you have to pano up/down--unless, I hope, you can tell me there is something new in the latest software.

Absolutely no question that there are things a phone camera can't do. Some of the things you a trying to compare them to require probably 7-10K minimum to do extremely well with a dedicated camera. It also requires lugging a big bag with multiple lenses and a tripod. If you are heading out to get one of those pics you are talking about, that investment in money and labor (to carry the equipment) is well worth it. If, like me, you are planning on walking 5-10 miles a day (at age 76) to see a lot of different sights, then accepting that I can get only 90% of the potential shots is okay.

I'm going to Europe next month, primarily to see the Christmas Markets/lights. Several years ago I replaced my Canon /w multiple pro series lenses with a Sony RX10-IV because I got tired of lugging the weight and changing lenses. I don't "stage" photos, I travel and take photos of what is available at the time. My goal on this trip is to find 3 photos worth printing in the 16x20 range and maybe a pano (I use a canon Pro-1000). the 3 photos will be 1 of Christmas lights, one architectural and one landscape. Anyway, the quality of the iPhone 14 is so good that I am probably going to leave the Sony home. The number of shots you cannot get with the phone cam is getting smaller and smaller each year.

BTW, I'm not suggesting a phone or pocket camera is better than a full featured pro model in the hands of someone who knows how to use it and willing to put in the time--I just giggle a bit at the people who refuse to acknowledge how good these cameras are today. I'm 76 years old, started using SLR cameras about 50 years ago, and when I travel there is no way I want to lug a tripod and 20 pounds of lenses around foreign countries when I can get 90% or more of the shots I want with way less trouble. I want good pics, but it's just fun for me.