jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I watched a video on MaxTech last night comparing thirty-eight images from the Sony A1 with a nice lens and the iPhone 14. They were all shot in raw, with processing as necessary. I had a ahrd time picking the one I likes best, but I tended to favor the iPhone pictures. This isn't a scientific comparison, of course, but you might want to think twice: spent $9,000 or $1,000?

Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Phones keep getting better don't they.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Apparently, they do, but I'd like to see someone else do a more controlled test.

I was surprised to see that this channel is run by brothers - twins? It seems that they take turns presenting videos. I never knew they were two different people.

gwilliams6

I would never shoot you Jerry. LOL

iPhones make excellent photos, shot with tiny image sensors (Sony image sensors BTW). In raw you can make a case for having the convenience of the iPhone over a fullframe camera. But you are not looking at huge blowups of both compared images on anything other than a small computer screen.

My stepson has the latest iphone and I have an A1 and we shot side-by-side on a recent Caribbean trip to Sint Maarten/St. Martin. I marveled at the look of his iphone shots, superb. However when I blew them up the same amount as my 50mp A1 shots the iphones shots did not hold up as well.

You just cant expect a 1/1.28-inch sensor in the iPhone 14 Pro Max to deliver the ultimate resolution and detail of the 35.9 x 24 mm sensor in the fullframe A1.

And as a pro the A1 does so much more in stills and video, and has nearly 200 E-mount lenses available to it from Sony and third-party lens makers, plus all you can do with strobes and more.

It really is more an apples to oranges comparison.

You are now seeing fullframe cameras embracing even more AI that was first tried out in smartphones.

Use your iphones only and be happy if that is all you need. They are very convenient.

I will keep both my smartphone and my A1, and use both.

1) First a top iphone shot by Alex in Sint Maarten/St.Martin. Looks great right, but if you blow it up you see it start to break up a bit

2) Then an A1 shot by me in Sint Maarten/St. Martin . Blow that up and see it hold up better . Not a direct comparison but you get the point.

Cheers and best to you Jerry.

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MDI Mainer

Very well stated. Each device has strengths and weaknesses, and they are both outstanding at what they were designed to do.

gwilliams6

Iron Sight Loc: Utah

😈What does an A1 do better than & A7IV?

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Simple: earn more profit for Sony.

gwilliams6

https://cameradecision.com/compare/Sony-Alpha-A7-IV-vs-Sony-Alpha-A1

The A1 has a stacked sensor, which with its faster readout can do 30fps with full AF-C and AE. The A7IV does max 10fps without a stacked sensor.

The A1 has 50mp vs the A7IV 33mp

The A1 has blackout free EVF when shooting bursts, with a 9.44 million dot resolution and 240fps refresh rate. The A7IV does not have this.

With the faster reading stacked sensor of the A1, you have reduced rolling shutter when shooting in electronic shutter mode. The A7IV can exhibit more rolling shutter in its electronic shutter mode.

The A1 has a maximum shutter speed of 1/32000 sec, the A7IV does not

The A1 can synch and shoot with flash at 1/400 sec. in mechanical shutter (1/500 sec. in APS-C mode) and is the first Sony camera to be able to synch and shoot flash in electronic shutter. The A7IV can not do these things.

The A1 can shoot 8k video, the A7IV can not.

The list goes on and on, but you get the point.

The A7IV is an excellent camera and more than most will ever need. But my A1 is top dog from Sony for my professional needs.

Cheers and best to you.

https://www.sony.com/en-ae/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7m4

https://www.sony.com/ug/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-1

joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA

A duo of first-rate shots 🤍🤍💎🤍🤍

gwilliams6

Thanks,

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billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

When a phone can shoot an Osprey at the moment just before it hits the water at 50 yards at 30 fps , 4000 sec. at f4, and at 50 megs RAW, I will buy one. Until then, they are garbage when compared to my a1 with a 600 f4 attached.

coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA

I just got back from spending a week in Gettysburg, PA.
Almost exclusively shot with my iPhone 14 Pro to give it a workout for comparison photos taken with my Z9.
I was very pleased with the iPhone results. All of these shots are with the iPhone 14 Pro.
The big issue I had was when photographing with sun behind me, the screen was very difficult to see.
It would be nice if Hoodman would come out with some sort of shade.

Red6

The cellphone cameras are getting good - really good! My wife and I have been traveling a good deal this summer and I have my Sony RX100 M3 and a Go Pro 10. She has her iPhone 13 Pro. Truthfully, I have to say most of her shots are better than mine. She often gets better shots quicker and easier than I do since I feel the need to adjust, compose etc. She just shoots and lets the camera do its thing.

I have also noticed an interesting philosophy here at UHH.

Two of the cardinal rules of photography that we have all learned and quoted over the years are:

(1) It is not the equipment that matters, it is the person behind the camera that makes the image.

(2) The best camera is the one that you have with you.

Here at UHH a third rule should be added.

(3) Ignore Rule 1 and 3 if the camera is part of a cellphone!