My Dear AzPicLady: My name is Allen Essek, and I have purchased Lightroom, Version 6, on the Disc Format, from B&H Photo, in NYC, many months ago, and I have installed the program on both my HP Windows 7, and also, onto my Dell XPS 13, Win 10,
Laptop computers, following the directions for these installations.

Both of these applications work correctly. However, what has occurred, on BOTH computers is after several months, using the Lightroom v. 6 software; I began to see evidence of additional Lightroom Software on the computers, that I'd never purchased from Adobe, or installed.

This software was the well known, Lightroom "CC" software, which one day, did suddenly appear on my computers, as I went to use my LR6, which had been purchased from B&H Photo. The Lightroom v. 6, CD Package Disc, I chose to buy in this format, because I decided that I didn't want to be involved with Adobe's way of handling their subscriber's, offering paid upgrades with cost increases, I only desired the product that I'd purchased.

I desired to be left alone, (by Adobe) to use the Lightroom software, version 6, that I'd purchased from B&H Photo, on the CD disc, which I then installed onto my two primary photographic computers, which I do image processing, and I didn't want to have any ongoing involvement with Adobe Corporation in this matter, but rather, simply my own peaceful enjoyment of the product, that I had selected to purchase from their company, for my own personal recreational use.

However, what I soon found happening to me, as I continued using the Lightroom 6 product, was that it had become, a different product, than the product, which I had purchased!

I had purchased, Lightroom version 6, and soon what I was using on my computer, was Lightroom CC!

I had prior, been faced with a screen, that required me, to accept, the Lightroom CC, in order to continue using the Lightroom program at all, on my computer; it was such, that I had no choice, if I was to use Lightroom at all!

Soon, I was presented with the option, to try Photoshop, for a period of 30 days, as a trial, which I had no interest in, whatsoever.

I was completely out of the program that I had purchased from B&H, for $142.99, and originally installed onto my computer, and initially registered with Adobe, and instead, was now using some version of Adobe Lightroom "CC", which I wanted nothing to do with!

THIS REALLY PISSED ME OFF, AS IT WAS THE SOLE REASON, THAT I CHOSE, TO ORDER THE STANDALONE DISC, FROM B&H, TO BEGIN WITH, --- SO THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO, AVOID, THIS EXACT KIND OF ADOBE MONKEY SHIT, WHICH THEY HAD NOW, GOTTEN ONTO MY COMPUTER, SOMEHOW, AND STILL, FORCED ME, INTO PARTICIPATING WITH THEM!

I HAVE SPENT AN HOUR, TRYING TO CONTACT THEM, BY PHONE, AND I CANNOT SEEM TO DO SO! THEY ARE VERY, VERY, WELL HIDDEN! I DO NOT, LIKE THIS COMPANY, ADOBE ONE BIT!

Their Lightroom Program, itself, is a good product, yet the way, that they choose, to shove, their "CC VERSION" down their customer's throats, is just absolutely awful, and should be against the law, and it probably, technically is.

This company hides themselves, behind a most very effective customer service Firewall, such that their Customers can't reach out and make contact with them....they must do this for a very good reason, THEY DO NOT DESIRE TO BECOME INVOLVED WITH ANY OF THE IRATE AND UPSET CUSTOMERS, THAT WOULD BE CALLING THEM, REGARDING ISSUES, SUCH AS THE ONE, THAT I'M HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT!

YES, THEY HAVE MANY CUSTOMERS WHO LOVE LIGHTROOM....and in some ways I do too! Yet, I'm not referring to the product, but the way, that the "CC" Version, "is forced" onto the computers of people, who have chosen, to purchase, the stand alone CD Version of Lightroom, and the Fact, that there is no where to go at Adobe, for explanations, as to exactly why, the "CC" Version
is appearing on our computer's, WHEN WE HAVE NEVER ASKED FOR IT!!!

ADOBE HAS A LOT OF EXPLAINING TO DO.

THEY DO NOT, TAKE PEOPLE'S TELEPHONE CALLS! OR OWN UP TO THIS MALFEASANCE ON THEIR PARTS.

IF THEY WERE IN A POLITICAL OFFICE THEY WOULD BECOME IMPEACHED FOR THIS!

YET THEY ARE A THOUGHTLESS GIANT OF PRIVATE INDUSTRY WHO MARKETS TO THE PHOTOGRAPHIC COMMUNITY!

THEY ARE WALKING ALL OVER, AND TAKING ADVANTAGE, OF THE LESSER, AND REGULAR PEOPLE, IN THE WORLD OF PHOTOGRAPHY.... THE UPPER LEVEL PHOTOGRAPHER'S, DO NOT CARE ABOUT THIS, THEY ALL USE, ADOBE CC, AND HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THIS.

IT IS ONLY THE MINORITY, OF THE "Little People," Who Are Into Photography, Those Who Choose To Purchase, Adobe Lightroom

On A CD, And Finish Their Dealings With Adobe, Right Then, And There!!!

ADOBE, DOES NOT LIKE THAT !!! THAT IS, THE REASON, THAT THEY ACTUALLY CHOOSE, TO INVADE SOMEONE, SUCH AS

MYSELF'S, HOME COMPUTER, WITH THEIR ADOBE "LIGHTROOM CC SOFTWARE", (KNOWING FULL WELL) THAT I HAVE

ALREADY, CHOSEN TO PURCHASE, THEIR SOFTWARE, ON A STAND ALONE DISC, BECAUSE, (I DO NOT DESIRE) TO

PAY THEM!!! ANY MORE MONEY, OR, TO BE FURTHER INVOLVED WITH THEM!!!

SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY DO?

USING, MY, REGISTRATION INFORMATION.

THEY, INVADE, MY PERSONAL COMPUTER----AND, THEY, INSTALL----

AGAINST MY WILL-----THEIR----- "LIGHTROOM CC SOFTWARE" ------AND FORCE ME, TO BEGIN, USING IT, EVEN THOUGH,---

I HAVE ALREADY CHOSEN, AND OPTED, FOR THE STAND ALONE!!!----- LIGHTROOM VERSION # 6, STAND ALONE, VERSION!!!

THAT IS ON MY PURCHASED COMPACT DISC, WHICH I HAVE ALREADY INSTALLED, ON MY HOME COMPUTER!!!

(THEY DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS!!! ABOUT ME THE CUSTOMER-- AT ALL--- JUST SPREADING THEIR LR CC ALL OVER!!!)
______________________________________________________________________________________________________
I WILL CLOSE, WITH THE BOTTOM LINE:

ADOBE DOES NOT WANT, ANYONE, TO PURCHASE, THOSE CD'S, THAT HAVE THE LIGHTROOM PROGRAM, ON THEM!

((( I HAVE READ THIS!!! )))

THEY ARE DOING AWAY WITH THEM!

THIS IS THE REASON, THAT ADOBE, INSTALLS "ADOBE CC", ONTO A CUSTOMER'S COMPUTER, WHEN HE HAS ONLY PURCHASED A
AN "ALREADY PAID FOR" "CD INSTALLATION DISC OF LIGHTROOM"....HE MUST BE BROUGHT INTO THE "CC-FOLD", ALSO!

THEIR "NEW MODEL" IS, THE ADOBE "CC", WHERE THEIR CUSTOMER MUST, MAINTAIN, AN ACCOUNT, DIRECTLY WITH THEM,

AND CONTINUE TO MAKE CONTINUOUS, AND EVER ONGOING MONTHLY PAYMENTS DIRECTLY TO ADOBE,

TO MAINTAIN THE USE OF THEIR, ADOBE LIGHTROOM ("CC") AVAILABILITY, ON THEIR COMPUTERS----

THAT IS, ADOBE DESIRES TO BE ABLE TO, MILK ALL PHOTOGRAPHER'S ONGOING INTO PERPETUITY,

FOREVER AND SUCH THAT THEY THEN CAN FOREVER,

CONTINUE TO RAISE ALL OF THE RATES THAT THEY CHARGE YOU,

FOR YOUR "LIGHTROOM CC PROGRAM" SERVICE !

THE RATE IS GOING TO DOUBLE AND THEN TRIPLE IN THE COMING FUTURE YEARS.

THIS IS WHY ADOBE IS GOING ALL LIGHTROOM CC SO THAT EVERYONE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO PAY.

AND THEY INSTANTLY ATTEMPT TO TAKE OVER AND TO MONOPOLIZE EVEN THE FEW PRE PAID CD DISCS WHICH HAVE BEEN PURCHASED BY INDIVIDUALS OUT THEIR SUCH AS MYSELF....LIGHTROOM CC JUST SUDDENLY APPEARS ON YOUR COMPUTER AND THE VERSION THAT YOU ORIGINALLY PAID FOR IS NO WHERE TO BE FOUND ANY LONGER.

ADOBE IS A RACKET AND THEY ARE AS BAD AS COMCAST IS.

THEY HAVE NOW LEARNED HOW TO CREATE A COMPLETE MONOPOLY AND THEIR NEXT STAGE IS TO BEGIN TO STEADILY RAISE THEIR PRICES AND SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO ALL OF THE ANGRY PHOTOGRAPHERS WHINE THREATEN AND CRY....
AS THEY OPEN UP THEIR WALLETS AND ALL PAY THEIR DUES TO THEIR NEW MONOPOLY THAT NOW HAS GOTTEN THEM BY THE BALLS....

HOW WILL YOU LIKE LIGHTROOM AT $72.95 PER MONTH AND GOING UP EVERY THREE MONTHS FROM THERE?

THE DAY WILL COME AND YOU WILL....PAY IT TOO....

ALLEN E.

******** ADOBE IS FORCING LIGHTROOM "CC" ONTO PEOPLE'S COMPUTER'S WHO HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED THE
(STAND-ALONE) VERSION THAT IS ON A CD. THE "CC" VERSION SIMPLY APPEARS ON THE COMPUTER AND OVERWRITES THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM --- SO IT SEEMS !!!! AND THE "CC" VERSION WAS NEVER ASKED FOR!!!!

A SCREEN COMES ONTO LIGHTROOM ASKING YOU TO ACCEPT IT AND IF YOU DO NOT LR WILL CLOSE DOWN!
THIS IS TOTAL BULL SHIT. IS THIS CC TEMPORARY? what will happen when it expires to the work that has been done under it?
Will the original (PAID) PROGRAM THEN REAPPEAR (WITH OR W/O) THE WORK THAT YOU HAD PREFORMED USING "CC"?
NOTHING EXPLAINS ANY OF THIS!!! SOMEONE SHOULD BE SHOT FOR THIS!!! THE WHOLE THING MAKES ME SICK.
I BOUGHT LR6 ON CD FOR $142.99 AND INSTALLED IT SHOULD NOT BE TRIFLED WITH IN ANY WAY!!!!!!
ADOBE MAKES ME SICK!!! HAve a nice day...Allen.

Thanks for the clear and concise answer Bill.

Once I have all of my files and folders copied onto my 64GB USB Flash Drive, can I paste all of this data into my new computer's location in a single paste operation? If not, what must be done?

Would it be easier, if I copied only my images, without their Folder's?

Allen.

Hello!

Thank you, for looking into this request! I'm presently using an old Windows Vista laptop, that has 7,400 images on it, these are at it's, C:\Users\Teddy2\ location, within the computer's "Picture's Library".

Within it's Picture's Library, the Image Software that I've been using for years has been "Canon Digital Professional", and it has created hundreds of sequential dated folder's, and it has filed them, with my images, 7,400 of them, into 287 dated folders, all are in date order.

All of this image and folder data, totals just under 40.0 GB.

I have a "Sandisc Extreme", 3.0, 64GB, USB Flash Drive, that I plan to insert into the Vista Laptop's USB Port, and then to copy all of my photographic images and their folder's onto it; to get them off of this computer, and also, to get them onto another, both purposes.

I need to delete them from this old laptop, as it's HD is very overfilled, nearly completely filled: (100 GB on a 110 GB HD!)

I'll then, soon later, reinstall my images and folders onto another computer I have which has the room to hold them, a Windows 10 laptop, and also onto my Windows 7 Desktop computer.

***Can you, explain to me, in great detail, EXACTLY, WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL STEPS ARE, in order for me to use this Flash Drive, to copy, the 40GB of Folder's, and their Image File Content; Such that they will be preserved, as they now are. That is, dated images, within their respective dated folders and in proper order, such that I will be able to simply copy them all onto another suitable computer directly, to bring back all of my image files within their dated folders once again?

NOTE: THAT I am no longer going to be using "Canon's Digital Photo Professional! I now shoot with a Canon DSLR, a Nikon DSLR,
and a Sony mirrorless camera, as well as two Canon Powershot cameras, (G-12 & S110.) I have switched over to using Lightroom.
I AM STILL NEW AT USING IT...PARTICULARLY THE IMPORT PROCESS (FOR SOME REASON.)

***** THEREFORE AND IN VIEW OF THAT INFORMATION***** SHOULD I EVEN BE COPYING THE FOLDERS WHICH HAD BEEN CREATED BY THE CANON DPP AT ALL? OR, PERHAPS, I MAYBE SHOULD ONLY BE COPYING AND REINSTALLING ONLY MY ACTUAL IMAGE FILES, AND IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE SHOT ONTO THE USB DEVICE?

*****WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, ALSO...(PLEASE COMMENT IN DETAIL---THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR OPINION!)

I have various ideas on how this copy operation could, be performed...and yet, I'm also, very uncertain!, and I don't want to make a mess of this, and I thought that it would be wiser if I asked someone who has some real experience in doing these things!

Thank you, very much for your time and any answers that you provide to me. They will be very appreciated.

Allen.

Most EF lenses take a tremendous hit downwards, in their sharpness, when they're mounted onto an APS-C body.
I'm using DXO's measured test results, as my basis of information, and they are accurate, in this regard.

For instance, I have a Canon EF 70-200 f/4 L that's rated at: 27 overall, and 24 for sharpness, when rated on a full frame Canon 5DS R. This same lens is rated at an overall: 23 and 18 for it's sharpness on a Canon 5D MK III.
Yet, when that SAME, EF lens, is mounted onto a Canon EOS Rebel (550D) T2i, it yields an overall rating of
only: 14 overall, and a sharpness rating of 9!

And that is, the highest, of the crop sensor, Canon camera's, also.

There is a very significant drop, in that Canon EF lens's overall, level of performance, which is, the combined ratings of all of it's individual test's for Sharpness, Chromatic Aberration, T-stop (light transmission), Distortion, and Vignetting have been combined.

Also, specifically, it's Sharpness rating has gone far down compared to when it was mounted on the full frame camera that it has been designed to be used with.

This is why I personally cringe, when I read certain people, posting to new comers, that they should purchase, all full frame lenses for their new ASP-C crop sensor camera's; as those camera's, are designed to used with, "DX" and
EF-S" lenses, to get the maximum performance, out of them!

It's nonsensical for a brand new photographer, who has just purchased his first (ASP-C) crop senor camera body, to set out purchasing, full frame DX and EF lens, for it, (except in certain very specific, cases,) JUST BECAUSE, he may, SOME DAY, be purchasing, a full frame camera!

It is critical to place the correct type of lenses, onto the type of camera, that you presently own.

In the vast majority of time, you will LOSE much sharpness, by placing a full frame lens, onto a crop sensor body.

There was a man who did this with a, (I believe) 24-70 f/2.8, onto a full frame camera, perhaps, it may have been, a
Canon 7D or 7D MK II, and he actually reduced his effective M-Pixels down to something like 8!

He sent the camera and lens in to be serviced, and they came back fine.

Finally, someone else figured out, just what was going on!

That full frame lens itself, mounted on a full frame camera, would have yielded 24 M-Pixels, yet, only 8, on his crop sensor body!

This is something that you can, and should, check out, on www.dxomark.com

Your lenses, and what body, that you are using them on, to determine their actual effective sharpness, and performance.

Yet, you will almost always do better, with a crop sensor lens, on a crop sensor body.

The 80D is not a Rebel.

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Billyspad, You're acting like an unmitigated, open class, A$$HOLE! You are never witty, or funny, whatsoever, but only pathetic, lame, and corny; you are a corny troublemaker! Be plainly advised, that you are never witty, or funny, never ever!

IF YOU ONLY REALIZED, THE WAY THAT YOUR TROUBLESOME REMARKS AND COMMENTS ACTUALLY COME ACROSS YOU WOULD DISAPPEAR, IN SHAME!

You are grossly immature, in the things which you talk about, and "where you come from," and all of your pathetic, and corny arguments, that you endlessly make. You are only in this group to make troubles, and difficulties, for other members. You do not belong here! You are here bullying and endlessly, ongoing arguing, with other members simply to give them a hard time, through your continual baiting, and criticizim of them, for having personal beliefs that are different than your own.

You act like a "little tin god" who attempts to wield power and authority over other members, and to make everyone else, all submit to your own beliefs and personal ideologies, as to what is proper, and right and wrong. All of your ways of doing things are manipulative, and if other members do not capitulate, to your way of operation, in accord with your morals, then you will, cause continual disturbances, on-line, in the forum, through all of your ongoing, and repetitive, hostile, veiled remarks, and bogus corrections, that you endlessly inflict, on all of the other members, who do not see, or agree, with anything, in the way that you insist that they must be.

You set yourself up, in this forum, to be the Arbitrator, Judge, Jury, and finally even the Penal System, as you continually disrupt, the entire forum, through your endless, and harassing posts, of your insensible remarks, and complaints, and whining, that you post repeatedly, in this forum, when other members, do not agree with you, or else, you do not agree with the way, that other members, are conducting themselves, according to your own, personal rulebook!

You are simply a troublemaker, who endlessly creates needless disturbances, in an otherwise peaceful forum!
You are a chronic, pain in the ass, and you need, to be banned, from this forum, by everyone else, all joining together in mass, and them all, approaching, and contacting, the Administrator, and explaining to him, exactly the kinds of things, which you do, ongoing, and in detail, with some supporting textual examples, and at that point, you will, finally, be banned from this forum, forever, and the members here, will have the peace, which they are all, entitled to have!

You do not, have the ultimate power! You have simply been running amuck, for awhile, because enough people, have not joined together, against you, to get rid of you!

I think that your days are numbered, due to your out of control anti-social behavior. This is my own, personal opinion, based upon what I have very carefully observed, in this forum.

Billyspad, You're actting like an unmitigated, open class, A$$HOLE! You are never witty, or funny, whatsoever, but only pathetic, lame, and corny; you are a corny troublemaker! Be plainly advised, that you are never witty or funny, never, ever!

IF YOU ONLY REALIZED, THE WAY THAT YOUR TROUBLESOME REMARKS AND COMMENTS ACTUALLY COME ACROSS YOU WOULD DISAPPEAR, IN SHAME!

You are grossly immature in the things which you talk about, and "where you come from," and all of your pathetic, and corny arguments that you endlessly make. You are only in this group to make troubles and difficulties for other members. You do not belong here! You are here bullying and endlessly ongoing arguing with other members simply to give them a hard time, through your continual baiting and criticizem of them for having personal beliefs that are different than your own.

You act like a "little tin god" who attempts to weild powera nd authority over other members and to make everyone else, all submit to your own beliefs and personal ideologies as to what is proper and right and wrong; all of your ways of doing things, and if other members do not capitulate to your way of operation and morals, then you will cause continual disturbances, on-line in the forum, through all of your ongoing, and repetitive, hostile, veiled remarks, and corrections, that you endlessly inflict on all of the other members, who do not see or agree with things in the way, that you, insist, that they must!

You, set yourself up, in this forum, to be the Arbitrator, and the Judge, of all matters, and then, even the Jury, and finally the Penal System, as you continually disrupt, the entire forum, through your endless, and harassing posts of your insensible remarks, and complaints, and whining, that you post repeatedly in this forum when other members do not agree with you, or else you do not agree with the way that other members are conducting themselves, according to your own personal rulebook! You are simply a troublemaker, who endlessly creates needless disturbances in an otherwise peaceful forum! You are a chronic, pain in the ass, and you need, to be banned, from this forum, by everyone else, all joining together in mass, and them all, approaching and contacting, the Administrator, and explaining to him, exactly the kinds of things, which you do, ongoing and in detail, with some supporting textual examples, and at that point, you will finally be banned from this forum, forever, and the members here, will have the peace which they are all entitled to have! You do not, have the ultimate power. You have simply been running amuck, for awhile, because enough people, have not joined together, against you, to get rid of you!
I think that your days are numbered, due to your anti-social behavior. This is my own personal opinion based upon what I have very carefully observed in this forum.

Billyspade doesn't speak as a photographer but rather as a self-appointed moralist and judge of what is decent and acceptable and that which isn't, all according to his own conscience only. Photography and photographic skills and technique have nothing to do with this. He's judge and jury.

Billyspade, Only the way that YOU see and believe that it is...!

Billyspad, You do not belong in here! Everything about this forum runs counter to what you say that you believe.

In the past, when I previously used the "regular camera manufacturer's image software," it was simple and easy, to take a selection of my "full size, high resolution," .jpeg images, and using that software, to then reduce those large images in smaller in resolution, (into smaller sized images), suitable to be attached to my (Comcast)emails, that I'd send to my friends and relatives.

I'd create a folder, (typically), on my desktop, to save the lower resolution images all to, and then I'd attach them, to my emails, in that folder, and send them out.

Now that I'm using Lightroom 6, I thought, that this powerful program, "must" have some "simple way", to Reduce .jpegs, in Resolution, and to do, the same thing, that I, used to, do.

Well, I have two books on LR, and I looked quickly, in each of them, and all, that I could find, that was close to this, was, "HOW TO "E-MAIL iMAGES USING LR."

This was a somewhat, involved process, and was very different, from what I was trying to do. I had wanted, to simply, REDUCE the Resolution of the .jpeg images, using LR and to save them, into a folder, from which I could then attach them, to my outgoing Comcast emails.

***To put them, into a place, where my Comcast Email Program, would be able, to access them, using it's BROWSE Function, which is only able to search for locations, on my Computer.

Can this be done with LR at all, or, must it be approached, using a completely different technique, and, if that is the case, what is the proper method, to getting it done? And, EXACTLY, How Do You Do It?

HOW DO YOU, TAKE YOUR IMAGES, THAT ARE IN LR, AND EMAIL THEM, SO THAT THEY ARE NOT TOO BIG, WHEN THEY OPEN THEM UP ON THE MONITOR?

Thank you, for sharing your knowledge.

You're being a perfectionistic nitpicker. Not everyone has the skill to carry out the type of light manipulations that you refer to. You have already learned how to set up your lighting to achieve such involved improvements to the light balance. Regulars, beginners, and common folks have absolutely no idea of your complex rules and tricks employed to get it done ideally. In the beginning we were simply speaking of the acceptable use of a flash's zoom head! You're like, "MR. FLASH!" Some people keep it simple....just attach the flash and shoot with it.

Hello! I'm new to LR. I'm trying to import from a Memory Card that's in my Computer's Card Reader. It has worked before. I have clicked on the Bottom Right Import Button, Selected my Memory Card on the Source Side.
And selected Copy. On the Destination Side I've selected the directory that I want the files to be copied into on my C:. My Lightroom Imports Directory.
However, the bottom right IMPORT Button does NOT LIGHT UP?

What am I doing wrong?

SS, that IS, "The Word," that the OP, was searching for,...You, got it!
Damn good thinking, and thanks for finally laying this to rest.

This is the most sensible reply to the OP's overly vague post.

(Maybe, I will post, what is the "really experienced" photographer's color of choice?)