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Apr 25, 2024 11:52:36   #
Longshadow wrote:
My point was I see no difference.......

I don't either. Could be monitor, graphics card, eyes. These 3 things probably trump what effects resizing has by a lot. I resize all my good photos from 6000x4000 to 1920x1080(HD) or 3840x21609(4K) for display on my big screen HD TV's. They have no noticeable degradation and always look as good or better than the originals do on my PC.
That doesn't mean the issues don't exist, just that for you and I, and most I'd guess, it's simply a non-issue.
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Apr 25, 2024 09:10:26   #
Longshadow wrote:
That's because you know what you are looking for.
A person viewing a single image would have no idea of any difference..

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Apr 24, 2024 15:51:32   #
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Apr 23, 2024 09:56:41   #
User ID wrote:
For some, its just about making an image. For some others it seems to be about immortality.

Having no pix of my great great grandparents, I dont know what they looked like. I also dont know their names ... perhaps their wedding guest books were digital ?

I really dont know anything at all beyond my grandparents, all four of whom I knew in life. Im getting the impression, from some folks, that I should feel shortchanged by having no connection to ghosts. If one is not brought up to revere ghosts, one doesnt miss them.

I dont know who in my "tree" first left Africa, or first wandered into the frozen north. I dont know what happened five or ten generations ago so I guess ALL that stuff must have been digital, cuz its gone without a trace.

Beginning about fifty years ago, most newly made family snapshots were machine made C-prints. The only family images that will outlive those were made by "artistes" cuz "artistes" had BW home darkrooms. If there were no "artistes" in your family, then soon enuf you will never have existed !
For some, its just about making an image. For some... (show quote)

My 84 year old brother, single, no kids just passed on. I had the pleasure of going through a few thousand photo's he had in boxes. I tossed at least 90% of them because they were of people and places I didn't recognize. About 99% of landscapes, flowers and wildlife meant absolutely nothing to me... tossed. Made me even more aware that LOTS of my pictures have no meaning to anyone but me. My kids will be tossing lots.
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Apr 23, 2024 09:18:06   #
terryMc wrote:
Linda, I think you've been around long enough to know that whatever subject is broached there will be those who are going to find no use for it other than to point out its irrelevance (to them). Some will tell us that since it's of no interest to them, it should be of no interest to anyone. I find that attitude curious, but rife.

Well said.
I'm tired of reading this so everyone should stop because I can't control myself...

People should be able to figure out that the more a subject is found interesting, the more times it will pop up and the more pages it will accrue. If they don't want a subject to be discussed repeatedly and for many pages, post something in which no one is interested.

Meanwhile, there is always the "next" and the "unwatch" buttons.
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Apr 21, 2024 15:33:51   #
Reminds me of Roy Underhill and the Woodwrights Shop. Neanderthal wood workers enjoying working wood w/o electric. I guess they (relatively small group) enjoy it a great deal, possibly for the same reasons a small group prefer film over digital.
Personally, like almost everyone, I hate planning a table top by hand with a jack plane, and absolutely love digital camera's and digital editing. I know I'm not about to buy stock in film company unless they also deal in digital.
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Apr 21, 2024 15:10:11   #
jaredjacobson wrote:
Alternative title: "60 mph trees"

I don't understand the physics of some of these images. They were all taken through the window of a car at 50-65 mph panning front to back at different rates to isolate various of the subjects or enjoy the blur.

The streaks in the first two, the fifth and sixth make sense. The others all have something odd. The third has streaks going every which way. The fourth and seventh have this odd ring effect as though the image were rotating around a point in the frame.

Regardless, though there were a lot of utter failures, I think this process creates some compelling imagery. And of course, sharp is not the point. ;-)
Alternative title: "60 mph trees" br br... (show quote)

Not sure but will be interesting to see what some think about it. Photo's are interesting and some look photoshopped (I know you didn't PS them.) I'm thinking perhaps the car hit a bump, or you moved the camera causing various streaks besides the regular forward car movement.
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Apr 21, 2024 14:59:08   #
jerryc41 wrote:
In some places more than others. I'm on a couple of other forums, and there is none of this nonsense. I've seen members apologize because they thought a comment might have been taken the wrong way.

Courtesy takes no effort. If you want to be mean, you have to work at it.

That's partly true but I've seen only one forum over the last 40 years where almost no "vitriol" took place. It was a very small group of around 30-40 people participating and only about 10 of them on a daily basis. Nowhere near the participation on here.

People can easily get their hackles up over almost anything. There is a huge difference between talking in person and the written word. Body and facial expressions are absent in the written communication and many (most) people are anything but experts in the written word.

A few actually try to be insulting, but most just don't recognize how they sound in writing. I've been doing this a long time and I still have to work hard not to be offending. More than once I've gone back and read a post I made and think, my, that was a bit harsh...

I don't try too hard if I think someone is trying to be offensive. Life on the forums is not always sugar and spice, and as been said a few million times, you need a thick skin.
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Apr 21, 2024 14:29:26   #
srt101fan wrote:
You gotta be kidding!

He said "a country where children have the Constitutional Right to take guns to school to k**l their teacher and other pupils!

First it's a falsehood, a lie. As far as Constitutional rights are concerned, the authors had a defined constituency in mind and I'm pretty sure it didn't include children. And the OP thinks we have a Constitutional right to k**l people!? How absurd....

Aside from spreading falsehoods, the OP. as a foreigner, shows very poor taste in attacking the U. S. on this forum no matter how dissatisfied he is with some of the membership.
You gotta be kidding! br br He said " i a co... (show quote)

Amen to that.

No one likes outsiders trashing their group. It's bad form from the get go and is particularly bad when trashing a bunch of nice old guys in a photo forum, and an entire country full of admirable, amiable, charming, considerate, courteous, delightful, helpful, gentle, gracious, fine and dandy folks like us! Well, most of us anyhow...
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Apr 21, 2024 13:13:19   #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Guns didn’t change? I’m pretty sure they weren’t bringing assault rifles.

Assault weapons were around long before I was in high school. I don't have a clue what rifles the gun clubs were using, but I know the guns were easily capable of k*****g, but no one was k**led. Guns could be deadly then and now. What changed is the people using them.
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Apr 21, 2024 12:59:21   #
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Ah, I see we are in the Attic.

Trump is a con man and a criminal, and school shootings are happening, and students are often the perpetrators, and there are many who are arguing that there can be no restrictions on firearms, citing the Constitution in doing so. You may disagree with those positions but they represent expressions of opposition to your politics, not opposition to the country. Argue for your positions openly and honestly if you can. Suggesting that those who oppose you are therefore opposing the country is lazy and dishonest.
Ah, I see we are in the Attic. br br Trump is a c... (show quote)

Balderdash! I don't agree or disagree with all his statements, don't particularly wish to discuss them at all. YOU on the other hand, do.

He specifically said "(a country where children have the Constitutional Right to take guns to school to k**l their teacher and other pupils!") That's a direct attack on our constitution and county. Denying that is weird.

As for the 2nd amendment, when I was in high school, kids brought rifles to class for the gun club meetings after school. No one minded, no one got shot. Today guns are no where near schools and kids are getting shot. Guns didn't change, people changed.
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Apr 21, 2024 12:17:30   #
fantom wrote:
You sure attribute a lot of motives for people you don't even know. You sound like the people you are criticizing.

No need to know them personally. I know enough from their many posts and forum behavior to correctly attribute their nonsense.

As for sounding like them, yes, when you jump in the mud with them, you'll get dirty.
If getting dirty bothers you, stay out of the water.

My original post dealt directly with photography. For those that didn't see that, I explained in that original post (and subsequent posts) how it related to both taking pictures, and editing pictures. Clearly it belonged it the Main Photography forum, not in a NON-photography forum.
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Apr 21, 2024 11:30:39   #
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Making negative comments about ones political opponents does not mean one is "b***hing about our country."

He was "b***hing" about our forum (too vitriolic) and our country/constitution (a country where children have the Constitutional Right to take guns to school to k**l their teacher and other pupils!")and political opponents (Yes and elect a criminal con merchant as President." The last is not only b***hing, but specifically against admin. rules. If you don't consider that "b***hing" your definition of it is different than it's normal usage.
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Apr 21, 2024 10:20:53   #
Toby wrote:
I agree with you John. I am also approaching the limit. Life is too short to listen to people b***hing!

Cool. This guy starts of b***hing about our forum and our country, and naturally people b***h back at him.

You are NOT listening, you are READING. Why are you reading this "vitriol" if life's too short?
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Apr 21, 2024 10:07:39   #
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Let's jeer at the person who is leaving. Go ahead. Mock him, make fun of him. Let it rip! That will prove that he is wrong when he claims that this is not a friendly place.

Don't need proof. If you've been here any length of time and have even minimal experience with echo mail, newsgroups and forums you know first hand UHH is polluted with very friendly folks. A few old grouches doesn't make it unfriendly. If you h**e old grumpy people, then this hangout is probably a bad place for you anyway.

This guy trashed our hangout, and our country. He will NOT be missed.
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