No more Cartoons: I won't be posting any more cartoons or comics. Since they are copyrighted, that could be a problem. Play it safe and don't post anything that might be copyrighted.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I won't be posting any more cartoons or comics. Since they are copyrighted, that could be a problem. Play it safe and don't post anything that might be copyrighted.

rrozema Loc: Sacramento, California

Understandable but unfortunate

tramsey Loc: Texas

I believe that once it hits the internet all bets are off and it is public accessed, so the copy write no longer exits for what ever it is

BebuLamar

Ok Jerry! Shouldn't post works from other people any way.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

There is so many things posted here that are copyrighted. How many times have pages from a manual been posted to explain how to do something? It's not like we're copying material and selling it. In most cases, I think it helps the author because it gives him publicity, but that's not the point.

cbabcock

tramsey wrote:

I believe that once it hits the internet all bets are off and it is public accessed, so the copy write no longer exits for what ever it is

Not true. You wouldn't need copyright protection if you didn't let the public see it. The purpose is to keep others from using your work, including republishing that work.

BebuLamar

jerryc41 wrote:

There is so many things posted here that are copyrighted. How many times have pages from a manual been posted to explain how to do something? It's not like we're copying material and selling it. In most cases, I think it helps the author because it gives him publicity, but that's not the point.

One of the member in the other forum wanted a book that I have. The book is about B&W darkroom and was published by Kodak and no longer in print. I wrote an email to Kodak and asked them for permission to scan the book and send pdf copy to the fellow. They said it's OK.

fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH

Generally, copyright protection is to ensure an artists's/cartonists's/author's work is not used by someone else for monetary gain without permission or compensation. Although I can see where it's technically illegal (like jaywalking) once a piece is on the internet, I'm sure the originator is aware his/her work is going to be shared.

For an environmental conference I was organizing I once contacted Larson's office to ask if we could reproduce a cartoon as part of the advertising for the conference. I explained we were a not-for-profit organization (NH Dept. of Environmental Services), we would not use the cartoon to make money and it would benefit the environment. Larson's staff was sympathetic and said they understood his work was commonly reproduced for a variety of reasons but preferrd we wouldn't use his work as a general policy. They stopped short of saying they'd take legal action if we did. We ended up honoring their request.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

BebuLamar wrote:

One of the member in the other forum wanted a book that I have. The book is about B&W darkroom and was published by Kodak and no longer in print. I wrote an email to Kodak and asked them for permission to scan the book and send pdf copy to the fellow. They said it's OK.

That's a surprise.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

How about publishing a link (URL) to the cartoon? That provides attribution to the source.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

DirtFarmer wrote:

How about publishing a link (URL) to the cartoon? That provides attribution to the source.

There isn't always a URL available. I do screen shots and save them. I wonder if copyright violations are going to pursued vigorously here. I'm sure UHH doesn't want multiple lawsuits.

fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH

jerryc41 wrote:

There is so many things posted here that are copyrighted. How many times have pages from a manual been posted to explain how to do something? It's not like we're copying material and selling it. In most cases, I think it helps the author because it gives him publicity, but that's not the point.

And how about when a member posts a series of photos of funny restaurant signs and such? Does the restaurant have any rights to UHH's reproduction and sharing of their work? In fact, I'd bet most funny sayings on those signs are someone else's work so is the restaurant infringing on some author's copyright (assuming it's copyrighted). How about when someone posts a joke originated by a professional comedian? I'm sure that are myriad of similar examples and reuse of internet-posted materials is a massive grey area, legally, but just like jaywalking that might be illegal, no one's going to enforce anything.

BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

tramsey wrote:

I believe that once it hits the internet all bets are off and it is public accessed, so the copy write no longer exits for what ever it is

I doubt that is true. Most copyright infringements are not pursed because it costs a lot to sue and you pretty much need to prove damages to get any money.

Jerry posting old comics might violate copyright laws but he makes nothing from it and lawyers wouldn't likely attack him for it particularly because normally it would be like trying to get blood from a stone.

On the other hand, companies, like YouTube who has very, very deep pockets and perhaps even the HOG, they need to be careful because they could be sued for allowing their patrons to post copyrighted stuff and they are making money from it. Suing Google/YouTube for music copyright infringement could yield wads of money, so they will stop you in the tracks for use of protected music.

I watch pool streamed live on YouTube and they worry all the time about jukeboxes playing in the background for fear YouTube will can the video for infringement. I can see the Hog worrying about it as well as far a this cartoon stuff goes.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

fourlocks wrote:

And how about when a member posts a series of phot... (show quote)

It seems that American lawyers are missing out on a lot of income. Potential lawsuits are everywhere. Are we allowed to repeat clever comments that celebrities have uttered? Disney and Mickey Mouse are a classic example of copyright abuse. Protection keeps getting extended.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

BigDaddy wrote:

I doubt that is true. Most copyright infringement... (show quote)

Facebook is full of potential copyright infringements.

YouTube checks videos for "protected" music before it will post them. They either disallow it, or they insert ads. There is lots of generic music available online to insert into videos. I once used a tune that I heard on another YT channel.