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Feb 25, 2016 10:48:38   #
Strictly speaking there is no such thing as depth of field. If the camera is focussed at, say, EXACTLY 20 metres, then only objects at EXACTLY metres will be in focus; anything nearer or further away will not; at these distances a point on the subject will be rendered as a circle on the image. The diameter of the circle will be very small at 19 and 21 m. and will become larger and larger nearer or further away. The idea behind the concept of depth of field is that when the circles are very small they will still be seen as dots. An arbitrary decision has to be made about how large the circle has to be to be noticeable. The depth of field lies between the nearest and furthest acceptable circles. The problem is that what is acceptable varies according to circumstances such as how big the print is, how far away you stand to look at it etc. Hence depth of field tables are really only guide lines, useful but not infallible.
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Feb 24, 2016 08:34:04   #
Gene51 wrote:
Actually you are not printing a raw file but printing one of the jpeg previews in the raw file header. It will look exactly like the corresponding jpeg had you shot raw+jpeg. I don't have the time or patience to read the next 4 pages, but I am pretty sure this point will be clarified at least several times in those pages.


The fact that a RAW file cannot be printed (see my earlier post) does not mean that the only alternative is JPEG. In my view, the best method is, after opening in Adobe Camera Raw (and probably doing some image adjustment), to save the image as a PSD and print from that.
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Oct 27, 2014 14:54:07   #
Joshc wrote:
The mistake was that I did raw only instead of raw + jpg... and I guess I am slow in lr as I can do maybe 5 in a hour


I don't really think that you made a mistake. The raw file is all that is necessary.
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Oct 27, 2014 08:04:06   #
GeorgeSand wrote:
Greetings,

Just read a reply to a question about whether or not to buy a full frame camera. One of the repliers asked the poster if he planned to print poster size images. That got my attention - because I have decided to upgrade from my Rebel T1i to the Canon 7D II to shoot sports. But, I also want to be able to print nice poster size images of a frozen Tae Kwon Do jump with board parts flying up in the air after it shatters while the foot is still up in the air, or the bat striking the ball, the water splash from a swimmer's stroke, etc (max around 24" wide). Will I be able do good large prints of such photos taken with the 7D II or do I need a full frame camera for that? But this is action... so the 7D II is the perfect camera for me within my budget. Do you see my dilemma?
Greetings, br br Just read a reply to a question ... (show quote)


You should have no problems. If you sized the 7D image to 180 ppi and printed, the width would be over 30 inches. That would give you plenty of opportunity to crop away some of the image and still get 24 inches.
I have ultra sharp images printed at 180 dpi;indeed it is possible to print quite a lot lower than this and still get sharp images. For reasons I won't go into here, 180 is an ideal resolution for printers that print at 2880 or 5760 dpi such as Epson.
There is a lot of nonsense talked about the need to print from a high res image. The often recommended 300 dpi is derived from the requirements for printing with large press printers; ink jets can cope with much lower figures. In fact, 300 dpi is not a good res for use with an Epson; 320 or 288 would both be better.
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Oct 27, 2014 06:51:28   #
speters wrote:
I can not see, where you made a mistake, shooting in raw is in my mind the right thing to do, I have yet to shoot a jpeg, as I have never done that before. I shoot everything in raw and I do not batch process either!


HOORAY! HOORAY! HOORAY!

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Oct 26, 2014 15:05:13   #
Joshc wrote:
Currently I have lr5 and photoshop cc trial


If you have Photoshop you will also have Adobe Bridge.
Just click on the 'Br'square to the right of 'Help'.
When Bridge opens, go to the file which contains your images. The stuff for this is located just below the string of symbols at the upper left.
Open the file and all the images should display as thumbnails in the CONTENT block. It is possible to set up the Bridge display to suit yourself: I have CONTENT on the left as a column, and PREVIEW to its right. You can make them wider or narrower by dragging the border.
If the thumbnails aren't big enough to form a judgement, then double clicking on one will open it up in PREVIEW.
To see two previews (or more) side by side, hold down Ctrl and click on another thumb - etc.
If any thing is clear or doesn't seem to work , feel free to send me a private mail.
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Oct 24, 2014 06:00:36   #
Leitz wrote:
I've been dabbling in digital lately, NEF 14 bit, compressed lossless, open in ViewNX 2, tweak colour, contrast, sharpness, &c., as needed, export as TIFF and print. In reading through these threads I see that many of you also make basic adjustments in RAW, then convert to a readable file and perform additional processing in a separate program. Here is my question: What operations can be done in these other programs that cannot be done in RAW? I thank everyone in advance. Cheers!


I have just come across this. I think that some of the material in the response that I posted into the thread "How Much Sharpening is Enough?" may be of use here. One thing that I didn't point out is that when I "open" a DNG file it automatically opens into Adobe Camera Raw (ACR).

If you wish to ask any further specific questions, please feel free to send ma a private mail. You may not have used private mail before, but it's quite easy; there are instructions on the site.
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Oct 23, 2014 15:23:10   #
[quote=JohnSwanda]Re: Saving layers. You don't have to flatten the file to save it. PSD files are saved with the layers intact.

This is what I inferred; it is one of the benefits of saving as PSD. (You can also save TIFF layers). You can re-edit saved layers without loss, but there are other processing tools which do cause losses. Saving layers is a way to avoid some problems, but, unfortunately, not all.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:06:28   #
Leitz wrote:
For post processing purposes, do DNG files offer an advantage over TIFF files?


Welcome.

Yes, they do.
DNG has all the advantages of a RAW file because IT IS a RAW file. Processing a RAW file does not cause any loss of imformation; it merely changes vector parameters which are readily reversible. It is worth noting that when you "open" a RAW file, that is not what you see on the screen; the RAW file (which contains linear relationships between its parameters) must first be converted to a bit mapped file, which has exponential (logarithmic)relationships. If you open into Photoshop you will get a Photoshop file which is a working format. When you come to save the image , it is saved in a saving format (again - exponential). You have the choice of what format you use for saving.
I always use PSD because is closely related in structure to my working Photoshop file as well as other advantages. When I reopen the file in Photoshop it again becomes a Photoshop working file.
Files may be saved as JPEG, TIFF, and others.
JPEG has many disadvantages and I only ever use it for internet transmission and screen projection (which is what it was invented for).
TIFF has less disadvantages than JPEG, but there is no positive reason today for using it. In the past, press printing houses used to demand that files were submitted as TIFFs, but they are much more flexible nowadays.
Unlike RAW, all the other files suffer loss of digital information content when saved. PSDs can prevent this to some extent by saving some information in recoverable vector form on layers but this is only the case when the layers are saved. Flattening the image for saving destroys this availability.
In brief, do all the processing you can before you "open" the RAW (DNG), then refine after opening in your working format and save. The processed DNG will also save automatically and if you want to modify (or reverse) your changes to the RAW there is no problem.
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Oct 19, 2014 12:09:12   #
Shutter Bugger wrote:
How much sharpening is too much?


Sharpen an image to your satifaction, then apply a lot more to a duplicate. Compare; you will soon learn to spot when an image is ovrshapend.
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Oct 19, 2014 12:03:08   #
For casual work, sharpen until it looks right at 100% viewing, and recognize that changing image size on screen or in print will require a different sharpening setting(s).[/quote]

I trust that 100% means an on screen image which is the same size as the print, and NOT 100% in the bar at the top of the on screen image!
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Oct 19, 2014 11:51:24   #
dmeyer2m wrote:
Which is why I got into this post--I have a friend who sharpens to the point where every detail looks like a pencil line had been drawn around it. (And no, he's not using Topaz Simplify.) I don't want my images to take on that artificial look.


Agreed, but some of you might be interested to learn that the old masters, right back to Goya, made their images look sharper by painting THIN white lines along important boundaries.
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Oct 19, 2014 11:47:21   #
dmeyer2m wrote:
I was trying the Kelby suggestion for landscapes with Amount=90, Radius=.8, and Detail=75. It looked a little hard to me and that's why I wanted other opinions. I edit so that I can print 12"x18" with nice sharpness or do slide-show on the 24" monitor. But I've started saving a second set with a smaller file size, but with 600psi resolution, for UHH posts and sharing through emails.


The Kelby suggestion, as it stands, is pointless. It all depends on the image resolution. I am not familiar with 'Detail' but the figures given for Amount and Radius would, very likely, be OK for a 160 dpi image, although this is lower than I would really like for printing.
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Oct 19, 2014 11:36:54   #
rook2c4 wrote:
Many times I sharpen locally rather than globally, using the image editor's brush tool. Sharpen areas independently that need sharpening, to the exact level they need sharpening. Areas within the image that will not benefit from sharpening are left untreated. I find that uniform, global sharpening often requires one to make compromises. Selective sharpening allows far more precise control over the final image.


Local sharpening is certainly to be recommended. Each image has its own needs, but a common use is for land/skyscapes; it is almost invariably that the land area needs more than the sky (which may not need any at all).


But there are better ways of doing it than with a simple brush.
I use soft edged masks and USM or another of the more controllable methods. I may have a number of masking layers, each sharpened independently.
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Oct 19, 2014 11:23:56   #
mborn wrote:
I believe sharpening is in the eye of the beholder. It is what looks good to you


True enough, but it isn't of much help to someone asking how to achieve.
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