clansman Loc: wendover,england

Hallo, I have followed UHH for a while and much enjoy the humour fuelled by experience, especially the casual ripostes. I have recently discovered how to print RAW without JPG-ing it. Question : will the RAW print contain more quality than the JPG one, please, where the Jpg has not been tweaked too much, and the RAW has been brought to its best ?
Apologies if I am suffering from more ignorance than usual, but if there's one other who needs the answer as well, then I feel justified. Many thanks

bebo1998 Loc: Baltimore MD area

Ignorance is when you think you have all the answers - just my opinion. This is good question to watch.

charles brown Loc: Tennesse

I too make prints from raw files and jpeg files. My biggest are 8x10s. Can't see any difference. Use a Epson 6 color printer. Some will say you can't make prints using raw files but that is not correct.

clansman Loc: wendover,england

Charles,
Thanks for yours. I agree re the difference or lack of it. I suppose RAW is there just to give the best chance of the best pic, in some cases as a back-up. If you get it right, or adequate, for your purposes in JPG then no more action needed. My reason for asking was that I assume there are more pixels to be used in RAW as opposed to JPG.
I use a canon Pro 9000 Mk11 which has plummeted in price since the new Pro 1 arrived. The 9000 was recommended as tops but only for colour glossies, and it is. I have an older 6650 for B&W and text. The 9000 is good up to A3Plus too when needed. But I stick mainly to A4 on the basis that a good big one is better than a good small one. (It is also easier to see at my age!)

charles brown Loc: Tennesse

RAW, for me, is for PP purposes only. If you get it right the first time there is no need for PP and jpeg will usually do just fine. I seem to always need some PP with mine. Don't know if that says something about my skills or not. :cry: I also like to have the RAW files available for future use, never know what kind of technology will be available a few years from now.

Nic42 Loc: Cardiff, Wales

Having Googled the subject, the general concensus is that tiff files are the best for printing.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

you can't make a print from a raw file IF your raw file is more than 8 bits

lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow

Nice to know. I guess I waste my time making TIFFs.

lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow

Why is that?

photoninja1 Loc: Tampa Florida

You generally convert a RAW file to a TIFF for printing so you preserve as much information as possible. The big advantage of RAW is that editing is non-destructive and reversable, and you can push RAW edits much farther without creating artifacts. If your RAW pictures are not visually distinguishable from JPEG images, you might need to take another look at your editing proceedures.

DPFotos Loc: Pembroke, Ma

I do all my printing from photoshop CS6. I turn off the printers settings and let PS manage colors. I shoot all my photos in RAW. After I proces in ACR 7.3 I open the file in PS CS6. Do any PP there and if I print I do it right then. When I am done I save the PP file to jpeg. Works well for me.

BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD

Hear! Hear!

Radioman Loc: Ontario Canada

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The 'RAW' file from a given camera is the digital information from the sensor. Due to different sensor designs and construction, the digital information is different and needs to be converted into a format that can be used to create the picture.
Before this is possible, the camera manufacturer must provide the information on how to do it. Taking Photoshop as an example. First, Adobe must have included the RAW file information into the program. A New camera may not be supported.

( As an example: for the new NIKON D5200 Camera, Adobe HAVE included the RAW file into Photoshop but Apple have not so Apple computers cannot view them and their APERTURE program cannot process the RAW files).

On loading a RAW file into the photoshop, it does NOT go directly into Photoshop, first it is loaded into program that reads the RAW file and show it on the monitor. You can make corrections and adjustments if you wish. Then you have options. The first is to convert the RAW file into a standard format. PS CS6 gives you four choices. JPEG, TIFF, Photoshop format and DNG (Digital Negative - a standard raw file format). There is NO provision for printing.
The second option, is "Open Image" which converts the raw file into Photoshop format and opens photoshop. You CAN now print the picture. You can make any changes you like and save in PS, JPG, TiFF etc.

If you do NOT make any changes to the RAW file and convert to JPEG*, It should be almost identical to a JPEG* created in the camera. * The same format JPEG

For more info on this, there is a good article here:

http://photo.net/learn/raw/

cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL

???... I do it all the time.

lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode

What happens if I take a RAW image with my 5D2, load the RAW into DPP, post process the RAW CR2 file and then print it on my Canon printer without saving it in any format?