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Mar 24, 2024 12:22:38   #
Nalu wrote:
I shoot nothing but manual. Camera metering systems can sometimes be faked out by highlights. Determining middle grey as you do by metering and then underexposing to compensate for bright subjects can work, but I find that by using zebras, once the zebra function is set up properly, gives me great results on controlling the over exposed pixels as confirmed by Raw Digger. Happy shooting!😁


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Mar 22, 2024 17:23:07   #
selmslie wrote:
If highlight weighted metering sounds too difficult, Sunny 16 will work (or LV 15, 1/3 stop darker) will work just as well with a white bird in direct sunlight.


Thanks, I'll try.
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Mar 21, 2024 11:55:42   #
mizzee wrote:
I under expose and, in processing, I deepen the shadows and bump up the texture.


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Mar 21, 2024 11:42:13   #


Thanks, I'll check them out.
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Mar 20, 2024 12:03:07   #
Nalu wrote:
Sony has, imo, a remarkable exposure method that helps make the issue of proper exposure for whites a non-issue. The technology is referred to a "zebras". When set up properly, zebras will show up on over exposed portions of your frame and can be controlled by whatever parameter you choose (aperture, shutter speed, or ISO). With birds or other action subjects when you need to react quickly, I find adjusting ISO to be the easiest method. It's my understanding that this is not the same as blinks, in other systems. Tell me if I am wrong; blinkys are applied to the
JPEG image you are looking at in your camera and can misrepresent the proper exposure of a raw file which has greater dynamic range. Using zebras requires a bit of calibration for the camera you are using, but once set up properly, can provide a method of controlling highlights in whatever situation you are encountering, not just white birds. Other manufactures may also provide this exposure control method but I am not familiar with them. Good luck.
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Mar 19, 2024 15:22:44   #
photoman43 wrote:
Given that you are shooting in bright sunlight, in general use matrix metering or evaluative metering and then set some level of negative exposure compensation. The amount set can vary with the camera body and light conditions. The key is to see detail in the whites of feathers and avoid feathers or birds that look too "grey". My starting amount might be a -.7 or maybe a -1.0. I am rarely at anything greater than -1.7.

If you are using a mirrorless camera the effects of the exp comp settings should be present in the viewfinder before you take the image. Being able to preview the impact of such changes is a major benefit of suing a mirrorless camera.
Given that you are shooting in bright sunlight, in... (show quote)


Agreed, mirrorless makes the process easier.

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Mar 19, 2024 10:04:24   #
billnikon wrote:
I have used the following for years.
I take a manual reading off grass or a green tree that is lighting the subject the same way. (this will give you a gray card reading without the gray card) I then underexpose 2 to 3 stops, it is easier to bring back details by underexposing than by overexposing in post. But most of the time 2 to 3 stops works great.
This has been my method and it works for me. Others my have different methods.


Great images. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Mar 18, 2024 17:17:02   #
Longshadow wrote:
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Mar 18, 2024 17:13:25   #
ricardo00 wrote:
Are you photographing birds sitting for you or are you trying to photograph birds in flight or doing something?


Both, in flight and doing something.
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Mar 18, 2024 17:12:27   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You can meter anyway you want, but Canon's evaluative metering is the easiest and the most receptive to the ideas above regarding EC and the relative + / - position of the meter vs the 0-mark.

To the idea of ETTR - Exposing to the Right and capturing in RAW, as long as you don't 'blow' the highlights, you can use a combination of your Highlights slider and your Whites slider in post to bring out the RAW details (lower highlights) and maintain the original whites of the bird (increased whites). This post includes a working example:

ETTR in Practice II
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Thanks for the very detailed answer.
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Mar 18, 2024 17:11:22   #
Longshadow wrote:
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Sorry, will do.
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Mar 18, 2024 17:10:29   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Do you want white birds, or grey birds? Do you want a grainy underexposed sky to go with those grey birds?

You should capture in RAW with the exposure settings that stop just 1/3-stop below causing exposure highlights on the birds. Of course, that's going to take some experimentation in the actual light and subjects to confirm, work you should be planning to execute in all situations.

Leverage the modern marvel that is the EOS R7 that enables manual exposure with Exposure Compensation and AUTO ISO. Just pick your shutterspeed and aperture in M, then adjust the EC dial as you experiment with the birds and the exact light. Let the EC level and reviews of the highlight warnings determine exactly the + / - offset position of the meter.
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Mar 18, 2024 17:07:00   #
Both.
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Mar 18, 2024 17:06:15   #
Thanks for the very detailed explanation.
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Mar 18, 2024 16:56:33   #
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