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Jul 31, 2019 12:37:32   #
haze63 wrote:
Nikon is producing XQD cards.


Yep but they are 30% more expensive than the Sony ones sold in the US! So maybe they would bring over if Sony stopped selling theirs.
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Jul 28, 2019 20:10:17   #
Imagemine wrote:
I have a Nikon d500 and have never used the xqd card slot because I'm to cheap to buy 1 and a card reader as far as them discontinuing the xqd card is beyond me . I have a bunch of sd cards and the camera will function with out a xqd card you just have select in the menu to record to sd card first . Hope I have helped you. The camera is a good deal and has a lot of features that are on the d850 & d5 so don't let the xqd card stop your decision . The only draw back is it is a crop sensor camera, another thing they make large capacity sd cards. So happy shooting. and it's a damn cool camera!
I have a Nikon d500 and have never used the xqd ca... (show quote)


I agree completely about buying a D500 (I have two) but just to note, a top of the line SDXC card, the Sandisk 128 GB Extreme Pro UHS-II is $199, about the same as the the Sony 120GB XQD card and the Sony card is faster. And a Sandisk 128 GB Extreme Pro CFast card (which is used in the top of the line Canon cameras) is $299! Obviously one can buy much cheaper SDXC cards, however most are slower and/or of lower quality. I was fortunate to buy a Lexar 128GB XQD card for $159 in 2016 (before they stopped making them) so prefer using a card in each slot, backing up my photos. But as you note, the beauty of the D500 is that is up to you.
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Jul 28, 2019 17:52:52   #
Architect1776 wrote:

It does appear that the CFExpress is the future.


Yep with a number of manufacturers lining up to make them as well as potential much higher read and write rates, they do look to be the future. However, I would be surprised if high quality CFExpress cards are much different in price than the current XQD cards since these companies will be trying to recoup their investments and they know the price of the other cards they are replacing. Questions do remain of whether Nikon will follow through and role out the software patches for all the XQD using cameras they have manufactured. Also does anyone know if one installs such software on a camera, will the camera be able to use either a XQD or CFExpress card?
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Jul 28, 2019 13:30:18   #
BluesImprov wrote:
I was so excited to make this purchase but now I'm kinda depressed about the situation. Are there any D500 users who have any thoughts about this? And, of course, the thoughts of any shooters using a different camera model that also uses XQD's would be appreciated. Thanks for reading, and thanks for any ideas you might have about this!


Life is short! A camera's life is even shorter. And the XQD card's life is long. I usually find that I replace my cards because I want bigger ones, not because they have failed. I have two D500s and two XQD cards, one Sony (a 64GB) and one Lexar (a 128 GB). Both cards have worked flawlessly for thousands of photos and several years. It seems IMO crazy to have a camera with two slots and not use both slots, in case of emergency, etc. I have been thinking of getting one more XQD card (maybe even the 256 GB) and don't worry about it, just enjoy my D500s.
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Jul 26, 2019 22:23:16   #
rehess wrote:
My wife retired this summer {I was already retired} and we have spent most of the summer cleaning and getting ready to spend retirement years in this home {long story}, so we haven't gone birding very often. We did go to Pt Pelee NP in May, but we had really good weather, so most of my photos were taken at ISO values below 800. I did find the photo below, which I took in one of the shelters there, of a resident Barn Swallow.

focal length = 266

shutter speed 1/1000
f-stop f/9.5

ISO 9000 needed to make the exposure work in the shelter
My wife retired this summer {I was already retired... (show quote)


FYI: When I try to photograph owls, I often shoot when there is low light. This is a photo with my D500 at ISO 32,000 (usually the highest I go)


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Jul 26, 2019 20:11:51   #
rehess wrote:
My wife retired this summer {I was already retired} and we have spent most of the summer cleaning and getting ready to spend retirement years in this home {long story}, so we haven't gone birding very often. We did go to Pt Pelee NP in May, but we had really good weather, so most of my photos were taken at ISO values below 800. I did find the photo below, which I took in one of the shelters there, of a resident Barn Swallow.

focal length = 266

shutter speed 1/1000
f-stop f/9.5

ISO 9000 needed to make the exposure work in the shelter
My wife retired this summer {I was already retired... (show quote)


Thanks! Enjoy your and your wife's retirement! I reached this stage a number of years ago and my wife also joined me. However she keeps very busy with the grandkids, leaving me to my photography.
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Jul 26, 2019 19:05:18   #
rehess wrote:
I don't have any at that combination yet.


Any at the upper limit of your ISO at a distance?
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Jul 26, 2019 15:19:09   #
rehess wrote:
I have set my personal limit at 12800. The one thing we haven't mentioned is focusing, which is one place the Nikon D5, D500, D7500 excels, but my 55-300mm {especially once my 1.4X turns it into a 77-420mm} meets my personal needs at a total weight of 20 ounces.


Can you post a photo taken at 12,800 at 420mm? Thanks!
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Jul 26, 2019 14:31:08   #
rehess wrote:
That is the crucial issue, and why I always ask someone "Why do you want new camera?". When I got my Pentax KP, I did so specifically because with my Pentax K-30, I was limiting myself to ISO 800, which made their 'TAv' mode (*) mostly useless; with the KP it is very very useful - I can use my 55-300mm lens + 1.4X TC, which basically fixes lower f-stop at something like f/8, and still control motion with a shutter speed around 1/750.
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It definitely is nice to have a camera with better "low light sensitivity" (ie. being able to use higher ISO) and frankly, had never looked at the Pentax KP. So what sort of ISO do you go up to? I often shoot at plus 5000ISO with my D500. My problem is that I mostly shoot wildlife so the other main criteria I have for a camera system are the lenses, I want sharp, light long lenses. And at least at a quick look, Pentax doesn't have them. Their 560mm f/5.6 lens is 6.7 pounds?
But kudos to you for shooting Pentax.
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Jul 26, 2019 12:29:52   #
rehess wrote:
Not at all.

Look at the last pair of images in
https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2017/02/10/pentax-kp-first-shots

Left image is Pentax KP, right image is Nikon D500, each at ISO 819200
https://www.imaging-resource.com/ee_uploads/news/6723/kp-800k-d500.png


Wow I had no idea that my D500 could photograph at ISO 819200! Are these photos JPGs from the camera? Is high noise suppression turned on in the D500?
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Jul 22, 2019 19:41:05   #
grahamfourth wrote:
It did not attach properly - I will try again


Is this picture cropped? What were your settings? (shutter speed, f, ISO
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Jul 22, 2019 18:28:20   #
grahamfourth wrote:
First, thanks to everyone who has taken the time to respond, I really appreciate your insights. As to the questions above,
1) I take pictures for the sheer enjoyment of both the challenge involved, and the opportunity to see a side of nature that I cannot otherwise see.
2) My budget is about $2K.
3) My version of the 70-300 is about 3-4 years old, it does have VR but is not the newer "P" style.

I have included below a copy of an instance where the BIF image actually did work reasonably well. The conditions of the camera and lens I think were similar. I think one big difference was the amount of light available in this image was much more than the first (further back in the discussion). Perhaps that is part of my problem, namely not appreciating the extent to which the amount of light available influences the quality of the autofocusing.
First, thanks to everyone who has taken the time t... (show quote)


Not sure if it is me, but don't see the newer BIF shot you mention? But the amount of light available for focusing makes a huge difference. My 300mm f/2.8 lens still smokes any of my other lenses in acquiring focus, especially in low light. So a 300mm pf f/4 lens will be better than any version of the 70-300mm zooms because of this, again especially in low light. However the D500 is better a focussing in low light than a D7200.
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Jul 22, 2019 17:38:56   #
TylerDurdensReel wrote:
Maybe we should slow this thing down a little and ask a few questions and then try again.

1. What are your plans for your photography. I shoot for myself and family first and share a few here and there. I'm no pro and never will be because of guys like Steve Perry but I want to be the best I can possibly be.

2. What is your budget? You have a great camera and for wildlife, I haven't heard anyone complain that the D7200 is big and heavy. What is heavy is any of the three big zooms mentioned.

3. What version of the 70-300 lens are you shooting with now? The AF-P DX VR is without question one of the quickest lenses to focus of the three different versions of the 70-300 I have ever used.

Maybe you should answer question 2 first and then go from there.
Maybe we should slow this thing down a little and ... (show quote)


I think question 3 might be the first that the OP needs to answer. They have already indicated to some extent their budget by saying they were contemplating buying either a D500 (new $1,500) or a 300mm PF lens (new $2,000), but not both. The latter lens is only slightly heavier than the 70-300mm and more importantly, is a f/5.6 at 300mm versus the f/4 of the PF lens. Allowing twice as much light in will alone increase the speed of acquisition of focus.
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Jul 22, 2019 16:27:52   #
grahamfourth wrote:
Thank you all for the helpful advice. I have attached two photos I took yesterday of a small green heron. The first is him perched on a structure. Not the greatest photo, but reasonably in focus. The next picture, a few seconds later, is after he took off. The heron's distance from me is almost the same as a moment earlier, yet the heron is completely out of focus. General conditions: Focal length - 300mm; Focus mode - AF-C; AF-Area mode - Dynamic, 9 points; VR on; Aperture - f/5.6; Shutter speed - 1/4000sec; Metering - Matrix; Exposure mode - Aperture Priority; ISO - 2000; Hi ISO NR - on.

When the lens tries to focus I hear a "mmm-mmm" sound of the lens trying to lock on to the subject. It almost always does correctly after a few seconds, so stationary subjects are fine, but if the subject is moving, its has difficulties.
Thank you all for the helpful advice. I have atta... (show quote)


Glad you added a picture to show what you meant (as well as the info on shooting). Can one assume these photos are not cropped? After reading the comments, you are probably very confused! The simple answer is that all 3 things suggested could increase the chances of getting a better BIF shot; improve your technique, get the D500 and/or get the 300mm f/4 lens. As someone who has the D7200 as well as the D500 and the 300mm pf lens, I would say that if you can get these used, maybe you could stretch your budget to get both? Baring that, I would say to get the 300mm PF lens. I used the D7100 and D7200 with better lenses than the one you have and have gotten decent BIF shots (see the one below with the D7100), so your lens could be the problem (I have never had that lens). The 300mm PF lens focusses quickly and is a very sharp lens.


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Jul 13, 2019 16:58:06   #
JeffDavidson wrote:
I Sony developed the XQD cards. 64GB or max 120GB unless you are doing mostly high definition video.
Everuone has undoubtedly had good and bad experiences with each brand. I have used Sony for my D850 and D5 exclusively and never had a problem. Any of the 3 should be fine.


Unless I have missed it, there really are only two choices currently. Sony and Delkin are the two currently manufacturing and selling the XQD cards, with the Delkin being slightly more expensive. Lexar used to make them (I have one and it has been fine) but closed this division and sold it to another manufacturer (presumably because they didn't make enough money from them). The main problem is so few cameras require an XQD card, hence little interest in companies manufacturing. Lexar as mentioned previously sold this division to another company who then couldn't get a license to manufacture them, so as far as I know, there are no knew Lexar XQD cards being manufactured (when they were closing this out, there were some real sales on these cards). If you see a Lexar XQD card for sale, it is either used or an old one. As to the cost of an XQD card, they are about the same price as a high quality SDXC card. For example, the SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SDXC is about $200, the same price as the Sony 128 gb XQD card and the Sony card is faster. Of course if you have a D500, you have an option to only use cheaper SDXC cards in the SD card slot. However I am happy to have a backup and use the XQD card slot as my primary.
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