Thanks for the post, mwsilvers.

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Thank you for your comments, Shapiro.

Thanks for your comments.

The only thing I don't do is ADD new items or subjects to the photo without it being clearly understood that something was added. I just choose to not do that. I suppose there are situations where I would change my mind on this. But as noted by many in this discussion, to each his own.

Well, I happen to care about whether I am being deceived or not. Here is an example of a couple of bird pics. I received the first one (purple) from a friend of mine on Facebook. It came with a whole bunch of likes and Wows, and my friend ask if it was real. I did a reverse search on google and found the yellow/orange original photo. It is also oversaturated, but at least it is not purple. There are many people who think the purple one is real and that there are birds like this. It is probably still floating around on the internet and will be eternally.

Anyhow, the deception of the purple birds is probably harmless, but I personally, do not plan to be a part of it unless I label it as such or it is obviously a deception (like dinosaurs on main street).

"I do not add".

Sorry. I'll review the post that generated 12 pages.

Yes, I think photography is an art. Most photo contests have rules, so they need to be followed. If the contest has not limits, so be it. Other than that, I would feel uncomfortable if I posted an image as a photo on this website or on Facebook, and I then accepted a bunch of compliments even though half of the photo was from my computer.

Luminar and PS 21 can now do sky replacement. Don't get me wrong, I sometimes massage my photos a lot by cropping, using spot repair, cloning out small unwanted bits, adjust exposure, and sometimes add a little saturation. But sky replacement to me seems like too much. Do you still call it a photo after you replace the sky? Do you enter it in a contest without saying anything. Do you accept compliments without saying anything? Not trying to be a purist, but when you start adding and replacing items in a photo, it seems to me it is no longer a photo. It's probably photo art. Not trying to start a fight, just interested in your perspective.

Since this has not been mentioned yet, Picasa 3.0 will create collages. The link to download it is below. It's free and simple to use. You open your images you want in the collage, then click on "Create", then "Picture Collage".

https://picasa.software.informer.com/3.0/

Dennis, we are very far apart on Trump. First of all, I am not a Left Winger, I am and have been a Republican all my life. I am disgusted with Trump's behavior and his lack of integrity. There are many of us Republicans voicing our unfavorable position on Trump.

Yes, every President wants to get re-elected, but Trump places this issue ahead of the interests of the nation. He does not even try to represent or unify everyone in the USA, just those who support his ego. He is in it for himself, not for the betterment of the whole nation.

Trump has voiced conservative positions because that is a part of his con-game. He needs to voice those to have your support and the support of many other conservatives. He doesn't personally believe in conservative principles. He doesn't care about a******n and is actually pro choice. He goes to church and shows the Bible only when it serves himself and his purpose. He has a disdain for the military, and really does not care about Veterans. But he has to act like he cares about all these issues.

Regarding the constitution, based on his well-known position on not reading, I would be very surprised if he has ever read it. Based on his actions, he believes he is the supreme leader of the country and Congress and the Supreme Court are subservient to him. His positions on the constitution are voiced to maintain his base, but his true principles lie in supporting his narcissistic personality.

Regarding his monotone method of delivery, that is a judgement issue by you and me. We differ. When he reads from a pre-prepared script, I believe it is monotone. When he speaks off the cuff, in an interview or in a question and answer session, I agree, it is truly not monotone.

I don't know Trump personally, but I base all my positions of reading articles and books written by people that know him personally, have worked for him, or have experienced his behavior. I do not intend to debate this further, you have your position, and I have mine. I am ready to v**e.