bikinkawboy wrote:
I see a lot of truly outstanding photos on this site that were taken RAW and then post processed. I tried taking a few RAW and right out of the camera they pretty mundane. I don’t have photoshop, so of course I can’t doctor them up properly.
I guess my question is, you that post process, do you shoot all of your shots as RAW, or just those you think have potential for something better? I ask because last evening my daughter, two grandsons and I took an evening walk. She and I both had cameras and together (including one of the boys) we shot nearly 400 jpeg images. Yes I trash canned a bunch, but the amount of time I would have spent post processing RAWs would have been enormous. Any responses?
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Without raw editing experience, I think you'll be hard pressed to get an accurate picture (no pun) of what it takes to edit them. In reality it is usually considerably faster to edit raw files with modest skills, and considerably slower to edit jpegs in a good raster image editor like Photoshop.
The reason is raw editors are very good at making global changes, such as overall tone, color/tint balance, sharpness, contrast, brightness, revealing shadows and taming down very bright highlights. Using tools found in some editors you can perform local editing using gradients that will affect parts of an image, remove dust spots and some other defects, but in general, local adjustments are best made in raster editors.
Think of editors in terms of kitchen cutlery - a raw editor is like using a meat cleaver to break down the side of a cow, and a raster editor is like using an all-purpose traditional chef''s knife to slice an onion or soft ripe tomato. While it is possible to cut that onion or tomato with a well-sharpened cleaver, it will go much easier with the right tool.
A raw file is what the camera captures without any image settings applied to it. So it is going to look drab, lifeless soft. A jpeg out of the camera is a raw file to which camera picture settings have been applied, according to how you set the camera. In theory, you will change the white balance, contrast, sharpening, color saturation etc for each group of pictures taken in similar light. It is something most people don't do.
When processing raw files in any of the popular raw editors/converters one of the really big speed benefits is that you can edit a single image in a group taken in similar light, and apply the adjustments to all of the images in that group AND you can still make local adjustments as required on any of them individually to fine tune them.
In 2006 I purchase my first raw-capable camera, a D200, and after shooting one event with jpeg, I decided to leverage the quality buried in the camera's ability to shoot raw (even though it was 12 bit and a little crude by comparison to current tech) and have never reverted to shooting jpeg, over 200,000 pictures later.
In terms of speed to edit - I once did some work for a friend when his assistant called in sick just before a wedding. He was a jpeg-only shooter, because one of his "features" was to shoot the wedding party and bride&groom earlier in the day, and run a slide show of the afternoon shoot in the evening during the reception. That was his justification for shooting jpegs. He insisted that I shoot jpegs as well. He also had a run-and-gun style of shooting, I having done photography since 1967, I was accustomed to using a more careful, timed approach for better compositions and moments. So after the first part of the event he had around 2000 jpegs, I had half as many. There was a 2 hour break between the shoot and the reception. He spent most of his time culling his bad images and loading the remaining onto his laptop. At the same time, I grabbed my laptop and sat in a corner culling, rating, converting and lightly editing the 1000 images so he could add my jpegs to his for the slide show. I gave him my best images, around 800 or so, so he could decide what to add to the slide show - this took me a little over an hour. After a quick review, he commented about how consistent and well-exposed the images I gave him were. I simply told him that having had 41 years of experience might have had something to do with it and left it at that. I continued to shoot raw and took another 1200 images during what seemed like an endless reception. When I got home I looked at my shots, took another 90 minutes or so to edit them and uploaded my images to his website.
He asked if I would join him for future shoots because he loved my results. And again mentioned the consistency of exposure and color balance and saturation - which he found challenging. When I told him it was because I had shot them as raw and edited them using Capture One, he was shocked, angry that I didn't do as he told me to do, but then thanked me. I found out later that over half of the images that the couple ordered were from my contribution.
When you edit a raw file you are not "doctoring" up anything. You are just taking some time to reveal the information you captured with your camera, in ways that in many cases cannot be revealed once the camera has followed your generalized instructions and discarded (forever) any extra information not needed for the interpretation you directed it to do.
If you had shot your images as raw, with a decent raw editor, it might have taken you half an hour, give or take to get to a reasonable result. Of course, if you desire desired to spend some time fine tuning the result, you could always do that in Photoshop or other competent raster image editor. When you shoot people, products, real estate, etc the second step of editing the result out of a raw converter is a foregone conclusion, because there are types of operations just not possible in any raw editor.