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Feb 2, 2023 19:57:59   #
BigDaddy wrote:
Well, there are supposedly 18 decillion varieties of color (around and infinite number), and your camera and human eye can only see a small number or them, raw or jpg. The raw photo only 16 million, a measly amount, and the human eye at best see 10 million colors.

Theoretically,(on paper,) a RAW file may superior to a JPEG file the question being is that extra information necessary for your intended results. In other words, if you can't see see it, is shooting RAW really any advantage?

Nothing wrong with using raw, other than most non-editing, non-artistic experts will often produce WORSE results than the camera provides them, and 99% of the time raw is completely unnecessary for getting a good picture.

The other main issue is can you edit a JPG image? Of course you can. You need to know a jpg image can easily give you a full stop above and below correct exposure. Normally, anyone with a modern digital camera can, with no effort, pull that off. I was doing it 50 years ago with old SLR's that had no automation and slide film that had zero tolerance and couldn't even be edited, and I had little clue what I was doing. You would have to be exceptionally inept at photography not to get within 2 f stops today, and knowing when this doesn't cut it is pretty darn simple, and raw is only one solution, there are others for those instances.

The reason there are BILLIONS of fantastic JPG captures floating around, is because normally, jpg is more than adequate for taking most pictures, and editing them with out fooling around with RAW.

RAW is the last thing that makes for a good picture.
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What a beautiful rebuttal! Love ya man that’s what I have been trying to say all along 90 percent of the time one don’t need it.
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Feb 2, 2023 19:52:10   #
rlv567 wrote:
BY DEFINITION, JPEG files NEVER can be as good as RAW - though they may be good enough for some. For the very best results, it has to be RAW plus the best post processing software.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City


Your wrong raw is better in a lot of cases jpeg will result in professional results as well
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Feb 2, 2023 09:41:36   #
nikon123 wrote:
To those who set their cameras to produce a raw image and a jpeg image -why?
My view
If you post process, shoot raw.
If you don’t post process, except to crop or straighten, shoot jpeg.

What am I missing?

What if I want to adjust color or exposure or some light special effects with a jpeg it works
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Feb 1, 2023 19:54:45   #
Artcameraman wrote:
Last time, JPEG is processed in the camera which includes sharpening. RAW is RAW, uncooked data. You have to cook it yourself.


I don’t like cooking!
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Feb 1, 2023 19:43:16   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Shooting in JPEG is nothing to be ashamed of, but do it in private and wash your hands afterwards.


Will I go blind?
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Feb 1, 2023 16:35:34   #
DickC wrote:
I tried RAW but went quickly back to JPEG! I'm to old to be changing!!


There’s nothing wrong with shooting jpeg they make beautiful photos and can be gently edited to make them worthy of show winners
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Jan 31, 2023 11:47:56   #
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
Like I said before, NO REASON NOT to shoot both. The JPEG part adds very little to total file size.
I don't have the time to post every photo and the jpeg gives me a good snap shot of the image for "general purpose" when I get around to it I can use the raw


Finally found out what jpeg is after years of asking it’s a snapshot
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Jan 31, 2023 11:45:27   #
neillaubenthal wrote:
Even with perfect exposure…which is seldom the case no matter how good you or any other pro thinks you are…there will almost always be areas that are too dark or light and need exposure or contrast or whatever adjusted. While there’s nothing wrong with jpg for some purposes…any pro worth the name…and I in no way consider myself a pro…would want to get the best possible output as well as express his/her vision…and the simple truth is that if you let the camera maker determine what PP the photo gets and shoot in jpg you’re simply and stupidly throwing away a great deal of the recorded light and color you paid so much for the equipment to get. While you can PP a jpg…it isn’t nearly as much as you can do with a RAW file. So…I would agree that a PRO would likely want to shoot RAW almost always in order to produce the best results for the client.

File format…much like brand fanboys…much like the FF/DX arguments and the MILC/DSLR ones…and much like the fast prime/flexible and affordable zoom ones…simply depends. The correct answer to *any* of those is…it depends on a whole raft of factors and even narrowing it down to a single user that doesn’t reduce the field of decision much because it is all situational.
Even with perfect exposure…which is seldom the cas... (show quote)

What if the Jpeg with a light editing turns out just beautiful
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Jan 30, 2023 19:53:47   #
jlg1000 wrote:
The "Save As" dialog will invoque that handler:

public class SaveCategoryCommandHandler : ICommandHandler<SaveCategoryCommand>
{
··· public SaveCategoryCommandHandler(
······ ICategoryRepository<Category> categoryRepository,
······ ITracker<User> tracker,
······ IMapProcessor mapProcessor,
······ IUnitOfWork unitOfWork,
······ IPostCommitRegistrator registrator)
··· {
······· // Private fields are set up. The definitions for the fields have been removed for brevity.
··· }
/*... some code block here...*/
}

As fo the "Save" dialog, it depends upon the philosophy of the developer:
a) Some take the blunt and easy route and invoke the same handler
b) Some will test if any edit was done and skip the actual saving of the file if not needed.

BTW, Why in Coders Hell does UHH not show indents !!!???
The "Save As" dialog will invoque that h... (show quote)

Because they shoot raw
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Jan 30, 2023 19:45:11   #
mikegreenwald wrote:
I don't understand. Why bother with the jpg's at all?


Because they make beautiful photos!!
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Jan 30, 2023 10:37:11   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
I don't use the JPEGs, but I write the small-sized JPEG to my camera's second card, for the bodies that have two slots. For a 32GB card, I can almost write an unlimited amount. Maybe once or twice a year, I remember to reformat that 2nd card to clean-out all the JPEGs that are never even copied off the card.

WOW what wisdom the subject of shooting raw has never been discussed before! Wow
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Jan 30, 2023 10:34:59   #
frankraney wrote:
Why shoot both unless you need a jpeg proof right away. You can export the JPEG after developing the raw file.

Luckily you did not shoot to far right, and were able to save the photo. Do you look at the light meter in the camera? Now where it was when you thought you were way overexposed, and were able to come back in post. This is known as ETTR, exposing to the right.

Is be interested is a sample of what you thought was bad, and the processed, finished photo.


Shoot jpeg! Make beautiful photos!
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Jan 30, 2023 10:27:45   #
flip1948 wrote:
On February 1st Samsung will debut their new S23 line of smartphones. Reportedly the top of the line S23 Ultra will have a 200 MP sensor.

All of the S23 phones will also switch to a SnapDragon processor that will increase performance significantly for all models.

Stay tuned for complete specs and what they will mean after the debut next Wednesday.


I’m disappointed was really hoping for a 330MP sensor
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Jan 28, 2023 19:49:48   #
gwilliams6 wrote:
Fullframe seems to be doing just fine in the marketplace: There are some excellent APS-C and micro 4/3rd cameras on these lists, but in no way are we seeing "Rest in Peace fullframe" as he asserts. LOL

Japan is just one market, but the home market for most top brands.

Japan's Top Camera Dealers' Top Twenty in total sales for 2022; and Top Ten in sales the last two weeks of December 2022.

From Yodobashi, Japan's largest Camera dealerships total numbers for 2022; and numbers for last two weeks of December 2022.

Top Twenty in Yodobashi sales for entire 2022:
1) Sony A7IV
2) Canon R5
3) Nikon Z9
4) Canon R6
5) Sony FX3
6) Sony A7SIII
7) Sony A7IV Kit
8) Canon RP
9) Nikon ZFC
10) Canon R3
11) Sony A6400
12) OM System OM-1
13) Nikon Z50 Kit
14) Sony A7III
15) Sony ZV-E10
16) Canon R6 Kit
17) Canon R10
18) Sony A1
19) Canon R7
20) Sony A7III Kit

Top ten in Yodobashi sales the last two weeks of December 2022
1) Sony A7IV
2) Sony A7RV
3) Sony FX3
4) Nikon Z9
5) Sony A7C Kit
6) Nikon Z50 Kit
7) Sony A7IV Kit
8) Sony ZV-E10
9) Fuji X-T4
10) Fuji X-S10

Cheers and best to you all, whatever size format you love and use.
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Sorry that’s not true ! Proven by no Panasonic or Olympus on da list
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Jan 24, 2023 13:58:17   #
jcwall396 wrote:
Another topic that I'm sure will generate much discussion, but here goes.....I'm going to Iceland in July and plan to take (along with my Z6ii) my Sony RX10 IV with a 600 zoom lens to photograph puffins. I have no idea how close we can get to them, but I know I'll need some kind of zoom lens. Here's my question: Between a Sony RX10 IV with a 1" sensor and 600mm of zoom and a Nikon DX Z50 with a 50-250mm lens (375mm equivalent reach), which combo do you think will provide the best image quality to crop? I'm torn. The Sony is a great camera with great reach, but a much smaller sensor. The Z50 has a shorter reach but larger sensor. Thoughts as to what would provide the best quality and ability to crop up tight?
Another topic that I'm sure will generate much dis... (show quote)


Let’s go Fan boys!
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