This is response to someone who brought this up and I feel very strongly about Nam.

That would be the killer for me. When I want to take a picture I want to be able to see what I will be taking. The sun and the dark are overcome by a viewfinder.

that's easy, the one you own and like.

You may want to look at the Canon Power shot A1200. seems like a nice camera that is not to expensive. good size has viewfinder etc...

the problem I find with the point and shoots except for the G12 and the Nikon competitor is that they have no view finder. I just cannot get a good shot holding the camera half an arms length away. I find this especially so in bright sun or dim light.

In short, I find an integrated viewfinder most important. It maybe because that is the way I learned to shoot. For me that is the first thing I look for in a p/s camera - an integrated view finder.

Others may find my need for such and item wrong but this is one man's opinion.

The g12 is pocket size. i carry it in my jacket pocket. if you just want a p/s get the cheapest thing around and hold it up arms length away to take a pic. or better still buy a cell phone

Canon G12. Gives you lots of control. Good range of ISO. Has viewfinder. Is rugged. Menu/functions are easy to learn and use. Has built in ND filters, shoots raw, have used it in Birdland w/o flash and got some great pics of musicians. Used it on the street as a street camera not intrusive. Have set one of the programs to B/W so can instantly switch between color and B/W. In short, really like the camera and its capabilities. was a Leica user and find this is the next best thing in digital.

Go on Amazon and then to books and then to magic lantern guides and then type in your camera mfg and model.

that is true, but at my age..... I just have bh do it

I was in Nam for the transition from 14 to 16. Remember the old saying: Nam if you weren't there shut the f_ck up!

If there is a magic lantern guide for the camera there is a foldable laminated plastic card in the back of the book that comes out for you to carry. it is a little smaller than a 3.5 card but is a total of 6 panels. The book itself is great. I have one for my Canon T1i.

I too am a believer. I dug out the old family slides and pics my dad took in the late 40s and throughout the 50s. They were right don't take my Kodachrome away.

I agree with you. The G12 takes me back to my Leica CL. At times I still take both with me. I load the Leica with B&W TriX and put the f2.8 90 MM on it. I have the film developed at B&H with a set of contacts and a disk. I do love my Canon T1i but it is an intrusive and obvious camera and when shooting street scenes people tend to pose. With the others they seem to just go about their business. I find the G12 a marvelous camera. You can do so much with it. I have a 50mm view finder that I put in the hot shoe and if I don't use zoom it basically fills the frame. Had to learn to overcome the paralax(?) issue. I learned to shoot with a rangefinder and if I can use the term they are more "intimate".

ole sarg

You can probably call B&H or Adorama and they could tell you which body will adapt to the lenses.

If I remember right, you manually set the aperture and then had to close down the aperture ring in order to get a correct exposure. So what one did was focus wide open and then close down the shutter by hand. I felt this really helped with deciding which f stop to use because you could try all from 2.0 to 22 and then set the speed.

Oh well...

Have a great one