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Jun 18, 2014 10:55:18   #
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Advice about starting photography business
Josiedev wrote:
I am at the point where I feel comfortable with attempting to start a small photography business - shooting family & child portraits, landscapes, & such - any advice in how to even begin to get myself out there would be appreciated.

Thanks!


you'll have to make sure you have all the legal matters down - business license, fictitious business name, sales tax, etc. Your local city government probably has resources to get everything you need.
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Jun 16, 2014 18:21:04   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Why Some Church groups need to be Taxed
All non-profit organizations that claim tax-free status, churches included, should have consistent rules - must do some kind of charitable work, not spend too much on fund raising, have reasonable salary caps, etc.
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Jun 16, 2014 11:46:40   #
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ASA setting?
mwsilvers wrote:
For best results and the least amount of noise ISO should be set as low as possible in any given situation. It should only be increased when needed to get a good exposure in lower light situations to keep the shutter speed fast enough for hand held shooting or when the aperture and shutter speed you choose to use doesn't pass enough light to the sensor. Using ISO 600 all the time is not a good idea even with the best sensors. You should rethink your approach.


When I switched to digital, one of the things I was most impressed with was changing ISO on the fly, rather than having to change to a different film. It's crazy not to take advantage of it.
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Jun 16, 2014 00:45:49   #
(Main Photography Discussion)
ASA setting?
traveler5450 wrote:
>>ASA and ISO are the same thing

Thanks for clarifying that term. I was wondering what the difference was?


It went international:

ASA = American Standards Association
ISO = International Organization for Standardization
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Jun 15, 2014 23:22:37   #
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ASA setting?
RWR wrote:
When I got my first digital camera I wondered the same thing, so I set up a scene outdoors with lots of fine detail and light and dark areas and, with the camera on a tripod, exposed the same scene at every ISO setting from lowest to highest, keeping careful notes. Close examination of the resulting images clearly indicated that camera's limitations. I would suggest you try the same, and let us know your results. :)


I do the same thing whenever I get a new camera, and I'm surprised everyone doesn't do the same thing.
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Jun 14, 2014 19:57:47   #
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Blurring the meaning of Art vs Photography
boberic wrote:
Just for arguments sake intent may or may not have anything to do with weather or not something is art. Taken to the extreme- if I were to pi$$ in to my shoes and call it art, most would call that an obscenity not art, my intent not withstanding.


I imagine the general public wouldn't consider it art, but within the art world, things more extreme than pissing in shoes have been considered art. I wouldn't consider that art of much value, but I would consider it art.
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Jun 14, 2014 19:10:01   #
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Blurring the meaning of Art vs Photography
minniev wrote:
I hope to watch it sometime this week, I've been intrigued with it since I heard about it. From all I've read about Vermeer and the camera obscura, I've long felt that he is one of the real "fathers" of photography. I had the opportunity to visit the Vermeer museum in Delft a few weeks ago, and am even more convinced. One of his closest friends was Leeuwenhoek who developed the most powerful lenses of that era. The way Vermeer's subjects were placed and the perspectives he rendered were very "photographic". But without being an exceptional painter as well, he could not have done the work he did. Fascinating study of how art and photography have always had blurry boundaries.
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I think it is interesting that the camera was invented hundreds of years before light sensitive materials made photography as we know it possible. Actually, light sensitive materials were known for quite a while and it was the fixer that was the final step to successful photography.
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Jun 14, 2014 19:04:44   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
The Bible as Source of Truth
jointerjohn wrote:
The bible is the story of a supposed supreme being who created the entire universe but chose to only converse and interact with one tiny tribe of people on the east bank of the Mediterranean Sea. Screw everybody else. This supposed god then failed to even support his little band of friends and stood by doing nothing while they suffered great tragedies. This supposed god fully endorsed slavery, mysogeny, infanticide, and the slaughter of people not part of his favored little tribe. This supposed creator of the universe thought that the sun revolved around the earth. This supposed god got in a bad mood one day and drowned everyone on the planet except for one family. That's not a god, that's an asshole.
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That geographic inequality is one of the objections I have to Christianity. If we must all accept Jesus as our savior or be subject to eternal damnation in hell, it hardly seem fair to people who live in areas of the world where Christianity is not the predominant religion and were raised in different faiths. Should god really expect them all to convert to Christianity? They could be the kindest, most loving people who always put the needs of others ahead of their own, but they won't be "saved" since good works are not enough. And as far a slavery goes, it seems to me that a prohibition on slavery is something that should have been included in god's commandments.
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Jun 14, 2014 18:52:36   #
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Blurring the meaning of Art vs Photography
boberic wrote:
The question of "what is art?" has been asked for centuries. There is no right or wrong answer. The most practical answer is whatever the prevailing opinion of the time is. What is good or bad art? Another unanswerable question. For example if I were to scribble nonsense on a canvas no one would call that art. But if that very same scribble were to have been done and signed by Rembrandt it would be judged to be great art and be worth millions. It has only been in the last 50 or so years that photography has been judged as art. No one at this time will not agree that a very well done portrait of a very beautiful woman is art wheather or not the portrait is rendered on canvas or Photo paper. As far as I am concerned If I like it it's art if not,not.
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Actually, my definition of art, which some others share, is that it is a matter of intent. If you define yourself as an artist, and you produce something you mean to be art, then it is art. That says nothing about the quality of the art, that is a matter on personal opinion, and may have to be decided by posterity. Also, posterity sometimes confers the title of art on work that was not created consciously to be art.

Also, I believe some people have considered photography to be art since its invention.
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Jun 14, 2014 18:47:08   #
(Main Photography Discussion)
Blurring the meaning of Art vs Photography
13oct1931 wrote:
O.K. my fellow Hogs; if you are going to talk about it---how about telling us dummies about it ?
I enjoy taking arty pix; I recently took a blue ribbon for a PHOTOGRAPH of some shadows !!! I thought I was the only person doing such dumb stuff. Alyn


If my description of the movie above isn't enough, you could Google it.
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Jun 13, 2014 18:46:46   #
(Main Photography Discussion)
Panoramic Picture
jerryc41 wrote:
The name eludes me, but the actor Jeff Bridges has several and takes lots of panos with them. Got it! WideLux.

http://plus.google.com/photos/102525747947168462721/albums/6024510038430291329?authkey=CMeZkOOEp7fGag


There used to be a place many years ago where I could rent a WideLux. It had a swinging lens that would make a panoramic negative on 35mm film (and the was a 120 film version which was very expensive). Since the exposure was a couple seconds as the lens swung from side to side, you could get some interesting effects by moving the camera during the exposure. You can still buy them on e-bay.
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Jun 13, 2014 18:05:30   #
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Blurring the meaning of Art vs Photography
I saw the movie last year when it was in the theaters. I had heard about the book Secret Knowledge by artist David Hockney and physicist Charles M. Falco advancing the theory that the sudden increase in accuracy of perspective and detail in paintings in the early Renaissance period was due to the artists using optical aids such as the camera obscura and camera lucida, which would have been considered "cheating" and therefore was kept secret by the artists. Lots of art experts and critics refused to believe the theory.

This film demonstrates Tim Jenison's attempt to prove the theory is possible by painting his own "Vermeer." The movie shows that he did just that. I read an interesting review of the movie later by someone very familiar with Vermeer's work who felt the movie made it seem Tim's painting was comparable to a real Vermeer. The critic felt it was a poor version, and that even if Vermeer used these techniques he was still a great artist just using new tools.
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Jun 13, 2014 15:06:52   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Universe-Shattering' Twist In Obama Birth Probe
I wondered who this "Sheriff Joe Arpaio" was, and why he was investigating Obama, so I Googled him. Doesn't seem to be a very credible person to me.
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Jun 12, 2014 23:08:55   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
The Bible as Source of Truth
EngineerAl wrote:
What if the Holy Bible is NOT the word of god? Do you therefore deny the profound evidence of a Creator all around you?

It is anti-intellectual and anti-scientific in the extreme for atheists to proclaim that they KNOW there is no God without ever offering up a shred of evidence. And please, don't begin to try the silly talking point, "You can't prove a negative."

Negatives are proven all the time. I can prove I was not at the scene of anything that happened prior to my birth.

Why are you so intent on denying God? Why the hatred, the intolerance? I don't hate atheists. I never call them the names that they call people of faith. I let their/your own words prove the silliness of your arguments, from your "intellectualism," to your "rational" beliefs. Nothing there, except throwing stones at those you think your inferiors.
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I am not an atheist, and I am not denying god. I feel there may well be a god of some sort, but I have no basis for knowing the nature of said god. I see atheists and religious people as two sides of a coin. Both feel they know something for sure, that I'm not sure can be known. So being an agnostic is the only thing that makes sense to me.
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Jun 12, 2014 16:46:39   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
The Bible as Source of Truth
EngineerAl wrote:
You're definitely in the wrong one, Peter.
Explain your brilliant "rational" argument for the origin of some "quantum vacuum" or whatever you pretend it was that created an infinite number of universes, and energy, and matter, and organization. Be specific. Be scientific.
I know everybody can count on you. (snark, snark)

The Holy Bible answered this conundrum many centuries ago.

"I am."

Three letters. The ultimate answer is indisputable.


“As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind.” &#8213; Max Planck, Nobel Laureate, Physics

"For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been waiting there for centuries."- Robert Jastrow, renowned atronomer
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So there are scientists or other people of intellect who feel there must be a god. How do you get from there to knowing that the Bible is the word of that god?
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