Thanks for all of these very clever and amusing puns.
pfrancke wrote:
I am fascinated by Robert E. Howard's writing and by Frank Frazetta's artwork, and therefore attempted this - so for me, it was only a study, but the last image was me drifting away and doing my own thing. And obviously I think that was a fun thing to do, but a mistake in that I lost my guide and got lost in the woods.
One result of looking at a lot of Frazetta's work is that I have been infested by an itch that makes me want to draw. I spent twenty bucks and have started watching and practicing an excellent Udemy course called "The Structure of Man, Learn to Draw the Human Figure from the Mind". I am now an old man, so this is likely a wasted effort, but still!
We live in a wonderful age where we can choose what to study and how hard we are willing to work at it.
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Fascinating. I admire your enthusiasm for the quest for knowledge. Best, for your worthy endeavors.
pfrancke wrote:
Thank you Aubrey - you help me think about what is happening here... This is very interesting, I had to look at them both and tried to be objective. Sometimes people prefer one type of image over the other because of who they are, the "eye of the beholder" type of thing. And sometimes it is the image/composition itself that determines what happens...
So one thing I think I observe is that in the last image, the protagonists - man and horse are darker, and that a lightness seems to come from behind the horse and that extra lightness draws the eye away from our heroes into the depths of the image. This would be a story of itself and has an interest, but the price of it is to pull the eye away from the subject. I think most would argue the the composition should pull the eye into the subject, not away from it...
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I think you have captured the essence of the artistic question. The question of which image is better than the other lies in the mind/vision (intent) of the artist and the interpretation of the image by the viewer. The closer they are congruent, in one sense, the photograph can be said to be more succesful, at least commercially.
I take a lot of photographs, especially when traveling. When composing a photo in a changing environment, I don't think about the "rules" of composition, I will do the best I can instinctively with the time I have, rather than miss a shot. Composition can usually be adjusted as necessary in pp. I lived for a number of years in Arab countries, and have Arab friends. I never had a sense that they perceived the visual or artistic world differently than I do. I also have very close Chinese friends with whom I have visited major Art Museums in NY, Philadelphia, Washington, Sydney and elsewhere on many occasions. We would discuss the art we were viewing, and I never detected a cultural bias based on reading or driving patterns in our discussions. My theory is that humankind's visual acuity and scan patterns developed very early in man's evolution, and how we read and what side of the road we drive on have little or no effect on how we view photographs or other visual images. Thanks to everyone for a very interesting discussion.
pfrancke wrote:
Hi Aubrey - Change/mood is a funny thing, some times it is better, sometimes not. Recently I was in a darker mood and it resulted in a darker more dangerous, but perhaps a too saturated image.
Further thoughts: both images do a great job capturing the mood of the overall image. I think the reason I have a slight preference for the lighter one is that it seems my eye is drawn more directly to the principal figure. With the darker image, my eye tends to wander around the dark spaces as my mind wonders what I have missed. Thus, I think it is fair to say, you created a more dangerous feeling. I don' find the image too saturated. Thanks for sharing. Interesting exercise.
aubreybogle wrote:
I wouldn't change a thing. For this genre, it it just right.
I like the lighter one better. Just personal taste.
I am also about to embark on thisReikan FoCal adjustments process using a variety of Canon lenses from Kit to Ls and a TAMRON 18-400 and SAMYANG 2.8 14 MM. I purchased the latter two very recently because of their reasonable prices, generally good reviews, and I just wanted to evaluate them (unscientifically) because I was curious. Initial casual shooting indicate they perform very well. Maybe not as well as a roughly comparable L, but satisfactorily nevertheless. I will also report back.
Depending on your friend and his/her interests, a quality photo book is always appropriate. You can always write a nice note that you sign on the inside cover that will remind tour friend of your ongoing friedndship.
As a satisfied 5DIV and 7DII shooter, I am also waiting for the Rs to mature a generation or two.
Senior Photog wrote:
I am not being intentionally vague for any of those reasons. I hope to be starting a new photo business (New to me) and have many options.
My professional background was 'old school' and did not involve any digital work.
My entry into digital started with a point and shoot. Approx. 8 years (Don't hold me to that time frame) ago I got a Nikon
5100. I've used it mainly for photographing
a children's sports program similar to
Special Olympics. I'm giving back to my community and do not charge for this.
The parents download and print at no charge. It's the most rewarding thing I've done in photography. By asking my questions here and receiving answers from
experienced users, I have saved years of trial and error. I'm 73 I don't have unlimited years. So, please don't read anything into my original question.
Thanks, ...Joe in NJ
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Bravo. Best of luck in your selfless endeavor.
dsmeltz wrote:
I think the OP would also be well served by being more specific about the project including the wished for results and the demands of the client. What exactly is the subject? How large might you need to print? Is getting the picture in one shot really necessary?
I agree, but I think the OP is being intentionally vague to solicit a wide range of suggestions to cover a wide ranged of "landscape" photo situations. He said he would explain all later. I'm on the edge of my chair to find out.
Ugly camera, Ugly Amazon purchaser reviews, Ugly promo video. No thank you.
aubreybogle wrote:
OP's computer apparently has 32 GB of RAM. If so, no additional RAM will increase the speed of her PS post processing. Nor will buying a CPU with more cores, as those will sit idle because PS and LR address, at most four cores. Thus her AMD FX 8300 with 8 cores already has 4 cores idle when pp. The same would be true for an Intel processor. All of these comments assume OP is not a gamer during non photo hours, which I assume the "Microsoft representative" was. He clearly knew nothing of digital photo pp. If OP is a big gamer, the AMD is not a top video game performer, but it will run Windows 10 with no issues as well as LR and PS. I OP is comfortable downloading Win 10 from thw Microsoft web site, I would that avenue. Otherwise, purchasing a DVD downlooad will mwean updazting the verfsion you bought from the store. There have been some issues with recent, but not the latest versions of Win 1
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This was sent prematurely. Correcting the last sentence:
"Otherwise, purchasing a DVD from a store will mean updating the version you bought from the store. There have been some issues reported with recent, but not the latest versions of Win 10, when running on AMD 8300 CPUs." Happy hunting.
OP's computer apparently has 32 GB of RAM. If so, no additional RAM will increase the speed of her PS post processing. Nor will buying a CPU with more cores, as those will sit idle because PS and LR address, at most four cores. Thus her AMD FX 8300 with 8 cores already has 4 cores idle when pp. The same would be true for an Intel processor. All of these comments assume OP is not a gamer during non photo hours, which I assume the "Microsoft representative" was. He clearly knew nothing of digital photo pp. If OP is a big gamer, the AMD is not a top video game performer, but it will run Windows 10 with no issues as well as LR and PS. I OP is comfortable downloading Win 10 from thw Microsoft web site, I would that avenue. Otherwise, purchasing a DVD downlooad will mwean updazting the verfsion you bought from the store. There have been some issues with recent, but not the latest versions of Win 1