Nothing really wrong there ... but youāre really being too limited in outlook with your constant drumming about the lenses. For all of us who are verrrrry happy with our lenses there is tremendous benefit in a compatible live view body. Adios SLRs. No regrets.
Just stepping up to improved AF and MF accuracy, silent shutter, total image preview (etc etc) is the attraction for plenty of users. New lenses as well ? Not an attraction, even a deterrent if they were mandatory like back when the SRT and CFD mounts died.
IOW if the Z and R series never happened, we would be quite fed up with our SLRs but have NO complaints about our lenses. Natcherly, we seek to replace ONLY the component that troubles us.
Relief from such troubles is now here and relief is welcome. Further miracles were not prayed for, and do not concern those of us very happy to just have relief.
Z and R kits with SLR lenses are not half a loaf. They are a whole pizza ! You seem to insist we all need two pizzas, with the works, plus salad, lest we starve and waste away.
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Itās people like you and the condescending way you speak that makes relative photography novices like me hesitate to join and participate in forums such as these. Who gave you the license to decide what anyone elseās priorities or preferences should be ? Itās not difficult to focus on the question and answer it in a way that simply educates the enquirer.
The AF performance of the Z6 and Z7 can't match the AF performance of the D5, D500, and D850. I have a D500 and rented the Z6 for two weeks. I did side by side shooting with both every day. The Z6 would often hunt to achieve focus in even slightly dim light. I activated the low-light focusing feature but that didn't help. The D500 would achieve focus on the same subject immediately. The D500 is superior for continuous tracking also. I'm waiting until Nikon's second or third generation Z series come out to look again.
All of these cameras have a fastest shutter speed of 1/8000 second. You wouldn't gain anything there.
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Thanks this is very useful. I love my DSLRs and have no intention of disposing them. I should have said Iām looking for higher FPS instead of saying Iām looking for higher shutter speed. If this is only achievable via a mirror less, then either I stick to Nikon and buy a Z series mirror less (so that I donāt have to buy more lenses) or I invest in the best mirrorless regardless of brand. So my original question stands - which mirror less camera today would you say is the top performer in terms of AF and FPS.
Ok The AF is the source of much debate on the Z-line. Performance is a combination of lens and cam body do you have to consider that.
Sony has been kicking butt with mirrorless auto focus. Nikon waited too long to enter the mirrorless market so they are having to catch up. But they are closing the gap quickly!
Sorry - instead of āquicker speedā I should have said higher frames per second.
āHogster Wisdomā often revolves around the ānew improvedā lens lines for Canon and Nikon and how users of the new lens mounts will want to migrate to the new improved lenses.
That āwisdomā ignores an obvious group of buyers. Buying a Z6 can be no different than buying a D750 would be for a D700 owner. Itās a plain and simple upgrade of the camera body that supports your existing lenses.
I have already done that. My Sonys support my existing Canon EF and Nikon F-mount lenses. The Canon lenses remain fully operational but the Nikon lenses suffer some loss of conveniences. Buying a Z6 would restore most, sometimes all, of that lost convenience.
Restoring convenience to my numerous Nikon lenses is plenty of justification for an $1825 camera body ... perhaps a bit less justified if I had only one or two lenses to ārestoreā.
Why a Z6 rather than a Nikon SLR for convenient use of my F-mount flock ? I already own those SLRs with their feeble manual focus mode, inaccurate AF, and ridiculous attempt at live view.
So I plan to migrate my lenses from D750 and D610 to the Z6. Whatever the new Z-mount lenses offer is absolutely none of my business. I am simply upgrading the support for my existing Nikon lenses ... same as my Sonys already upgraded the support for my existing Canon lenses (vs use on Canon SLRs).
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Totally understood.... Iām in the same boat. Iād rather get a good mirror less that ensures I use my collection of excellent Nikon glass. Iāve no desire or need to buy more glass.
This is a naive question but would my Nikon glass easily work ( and well) on a non Nikon mirrorless camera ?
Patience! The DSLR's will hold you until the next, (new improved!) versions of the Z6 and Z7 come out. Look for faster, more accurate human and animal eye-focus, 2 card slots, better follow-focus, H.265 video...
I have a lot of Nikon gear, so am pretty deeply "invested" in that brand. None of the three bodies I have (D5/850/500) are mirrorless and I have been thinking about adding a mirrorless body to the arsenal to get faster shutter speed and AF esp for BIF and wildlife action as well as for better video capabilities. I have heard a lot about the wonders of Sony and other mirrorless bodies and lenses - however, going outside the Nikon range would mean interoperability problems. What would you wise people advise? a) stick with Nikon? b) if yes, which one? c) if not, what would you recommend and how would compatibility / interoperability be solved? d) should I just shut up and stick with DSLR's ?!!
Firstly, I am not aware how many use Aperture priority for wildlife or suggesting it is a good method but here's a couple of thoughts;
a) it could be that they have assessed the present lighting conditions and determined (by test or knowledge) that say for any aperture change they make between f/2.8 and f/8 that they will use to achieve the DoFs they want, the camera will give speeds in an acceptable range for the ISO they have set.
b) it could be that they use Aperture priority with Auto ISO and have a 'minimum' speed set that will cater for any animal movement expected.
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