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May 6, 2020 13:25:48   #
RahulKhosla
 
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manual mode + auto ISO so far but am curious about how Aperture priority would work for situations where the subject is moving quickly (eg BIF or a tiger chasing a deer) and so you need pretty high shutter speeds to avoid motion blur (say 1/2000 - 1/4000).

So many wildlife photographers swear by Aperture priority mode and I can certainly see the logic in terms of having to fiddle with one less variable (shutter speed which the camera controls).

However, if I need reasonable DoF AND and I also simultaneously need high shutter speed, then a higher F stop to provide more DoF would automatically slow down the shutter speed, wouldn't it? And thus create the very motion blur that I want to avoid?

Cranking up the ISO or EV could be a solution but would love to hear advice on this.

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May 6, 2020 13:42:10   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
RahulKhosla wrote:
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manual mode + auto ISO so far but am curious about how Aperture priority would work for situations where the subject is moving quickly (eg BIF or a tiger chasing a deer) and so you need pretty high shutter speeds to avoid motion blur (say 1/2000 - 1/4000).

So many wildlife photographers swear by Aperture priority mode and I can certainly see the logic in terms of having to fiddle with one less variable (shutter speed which the camera controls).

However, if I need reasonable DoF AND and I also simultaneously need high shutter speed, then a higher F stop to provide more DoF would automatically slow down the shutter speed, wouldn't it? And thus create the very motion blur that I want to avoid?

Cranking up the ISO or EV could be a solution but would love to hear advice on this.
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manu... (show quote)


What you're doing right now -- manual + auto ISO -- is the right choice if you're trying to capture fast moving action. If not that then not A priority but instead S priority where you lock down the shutter speed. With action subjects shutter speed is the highest priority to avoid motion blur.

Joe

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May 6, 2020 14:08:05   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
"So many wildlife photographers swear by Aperture priority mode" - I would like to know who -- and why.

Once I learned about auto ISO, I never found a reason to photograph wildlife differently: for quickly changing lighting conditions or when the animal/bird's movement cannot be predicted, I set aperture and shutter speed via manual controls, and then auto ISO.

For a lion asleep in a zoo enclosure, aperture priority would work

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May 6, 2020 14:08:19   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
RahulKhosla wrote:
Cranking up the ISO or EV could be a solution but would love to hear advice on this.

That is the method to force the camera to maintain a high shutterspeed while you manage only the Aperture in aperture priority.

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May 6, 2020 21:59:38   #
RahulKhosla
 
Thank you Joe

Ysarex wrote:
What you're doing right now -- manual + auto ISO -- is the right choice if you're trying to capture fast moving action. If not that then not A priority but instead S priority where you lock down the shutter speed. With action subjects shutter speed is the highest priority to avoid motion blur.

Joe

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May 6, 2020 22:00:56   #
RahulKhosla
 
Thanks. Like I said, I do the same as you and have been quite happy but I was curious as to why so many people use Aperture priority for wildlife photography

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May 6, 2020 22:01:23   #
RahulKhosla
 
Thank you

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May 6, 2020 22:34:26   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
RahulKhosla wrote:
but I was curious as to why so many people use Aperture priority for wildlife photography


Firstly, I am not aware how many use Aperture priority for wildlife or suggesting it is a good method but here's a couple of thoughts;

a) it could be that they have assessed the present lighting conditions and determined (by test or knowledge) that say for any aperture change they make between f/2.8 and f/8 that they will use to achieve the DoFs they want, the camera will give speeds in an acceptable range for the ISO they have set.

b) it could be that they use Aperture priority with Auto ISO and have a 'minimum' speed set that will cater for any animal movement expected.

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May 6, 2020 23:56:17   #
RahulKhosla
 
Grahame wrote:
Firstly, I am not aware how many use Aperture priority for wildlife or suggesting it is a good method but here's a couple of thoughts;

a) it could be that they have assessed the present lighting conditions and determined (by test or knowledge) that say for any aperture change they make between f/2.8 and f/8 that they will use to achieve the DoFs they want, the camera will give speeds in an acceptable range for the ISO they have set.

b) it could be that they use Aperture priority with Auto ISO and have a 'minimum' speed set that will cater for any animal movement expected.
Firstly, I am not aware how many use Aperture prio... (show quote)


Thanks Grahame

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May 7, 2020 07:25:20   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
RahulKhosla wrote:
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manual mode + auto ISO so far but am curious about how Aperture priority would work for situations where the subject is moving quickly (eg BIF or a tiger chasing a deer) and so you need pretty high shutter speeds to avoid motion blur (say 1/2000 - 1/4000).

So many wildlife photographers swear by Aperture priority mode and I can certainly see the logic in terms of having to fiddle with one less variable (shutter speed which the camera controls).

However, if I need reasonable DoF AND and I also simultaneously need high shutter speed, then a higher F stop to provide more DoF would automatically slow down the shutter speed, wouldn't it? And thus create the very motion blur that I want to avoid?

Cranking up the ISO or EV could be a solution but would love to hear advice on this.
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manu... (show quote)


Using auto ISO may result in a too high ISO, if you set it for that.
I use aperture priority for the purpose of using a high shutter speed. I like to shoot, if possible, 1/4000 sec. this gets the wing tips frozen.
I control the iso so my shutter speed is fast enough. If lighting conditions change, my shutter speed will change, but NOT THAT MUCH. Probably two or three stops, which is no big deal.
Here is the thing RahulKhosla, we now live in a digital world, not a film one, we can now experiment and see our results right away, so start shooting using different approaches. What works for someone else will not work for you.
So try manual with auto iso. Try aperture priority using manual iso, and letting the exposure compensation make minor adjustments. But experiment, do not take any ONE way as the only way to do something.
I use Manual, Shutter Priority, Auto ISO, Manual ISO, it all depends on what I am trying to do for the final image.
It is not about one approach, it is about the right approach under the current conditions that you are shooting under.
Black Crowned Night Heron, Nikon D500, Nikon 200-500 lens, 1/320 sec. f5.6, ISO 1600, A Priority, -1 exposure compensation.



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May 7, 2020 09:28:01   #
markwilliam1
 
billnikon wrote:
Using auto ISO may result in a too high ISO, if you set it for that.
I use aperture priority for the purpose of using a high shutter speed. I like to shoot, if possible, 1/4000 sec. this gets the wing tips frozen.
I control the iso so my shutter speed is fast enough. If lighting conditions change, my shutter speed will change, but NOT THAT MUCH. Probably two or three stops, which is no big deal.
Here is the thing RahulKhosla, we now live in a digital world, not a film one, we can now experiment and see our results right away, so start shooting using different approaches. What works for someone else will not work for you.
So try manual with auto iso. Try aperture priority using manual iso, and letting the exposure compensation make minor adjustments. But experiment, do not take any ONE way as the only way to do something.
I use Manual, Shutter Priority, Auto ISO, Manual ISO, it all depends on what I am trying to do for the final image.
It is not about one approach, it is about the right approach under the current conditions that you are shooting under.
Black Crowned Night Heron, Nikon D500, Nikon 200-500 lens, 1/320 sec. f5.6, ISO 1600, A Priority, -1 exposure compensation.
Using auto ISO may result in a too high ISO, if yo... (show quote)

Sweet Shot Bill!!

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May 7, 2020 09:45:45   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
RahulKhosla wrote:
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manual mode + auto ISO so far but am curious about how Aperture priority would work for situations where the subject is moving quickly (eg BIF or a tiger chasing a deer) and so you need pretty high shutter speeds to avoid motion blur (say 1/2000 - 1/4000).

So many wildlife photographers swear by Aperture priority mode and I can certainly see the logic in terms of having to fiddle with one less variable (shutter speed which the camera controls).

However, if I need reasonable DoF AND and I also simultaneously need high shutter speed, then a higher F stop to provide more DoF would automatically slow down the shutter speed, wouldn't it? And thus create the very motion blur that I want to avoid?

Cranking up the ISO or EV could be a solution but would love to hear advice on this.
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manu... (show quote)


I think the main point about using Manual with Auto ISO is that you don’t have to fiddle with the shutter speed. You set it fast enough to deal with whatever you subject is, also considering the focal length of the lens, and you leave it. I’ll admit I’ve shot a fair amount of wildlife in Aperture priority but only because that’s usually what I leave me cameras in. When I’m specifically going out to shoot wildlife I switch to “M”

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May 7, 2020 10:40:03   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
Sweet Shot Bill!!


Thanks, by the way, that is an invasive Armored Catfish in it's beak. We have many invasive species in Florida, Iguana is one that most Floridians would prefer live somewhere else.

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May 7, 2020 10:47:00   #
MountainDave
 
I know Tom Mangelsen, among others, uses Av mostly. The reason is pretty simple: aperture affects the "look" of your image more than any other parameter. I use it and set ISO manually high enough to ensure a fast enough shutter speed. I often want to take the same shot with several different apertures and Av gives me the best chance to so quickly before a bird takes off for instance. I've gotten pretty good at judging what ISO is needed but I always check to make sure shutter speed is OK at the smallest aperture I plan to use. This method also allows me to adjust the EV very easily as needed.

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May 7, 2020 10:51:59   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
billnikon wrote:
Using auto ISO may result in a too high ISO, if you set it for that.
I use aperture priority for the purpose of using a high shutter speed. I like to shoot, if possible, 1/4000 sec. this gets the wing tips frozen.
I control the iso so my shutter speed is fast enough. If lighting conditions change, my shutter speed will change, but NOT THAT MUCH. Probably two or three stops, which is no big deal.
Here is the thing RahulKhosla, we now live in a digital world, not a film one, we can now experiment and see our results right away, so start shooting using different approaches. What works for someone else will not work for you.
So try manual with auto iso. Try aperture priority using manual iso, and letting the exposure compensation make minor adjustments. But experiment, do not take any ONE way as the only way to do something.
I use Manual, Shutter Priority, Auto ISO, Manual ISO, it all depends on what I am trying to do for the final image.
It is not about one approach, it is about the right approach under the current conditions that you are shooting under.
Black Crowned Night Heron, Nikon D500, Nikon 200-500 lens, 1/320 sec. f5.6, ISO 1600, A Priority, -1 exposure compensation.
Using auto ISO may result in a too high ISO, if yo... (show quote)


Holy cow!! That's a GREAT shot.

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