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May 7, 2020 11:15:24   #
Hereford Loc: Palm Coast, FL
 
billnikon wrote:
Using auto ISO may result in a too high ISO, if you set it for that.
I use aperture priority for the purpose of using a high shutter speed. I like to shoot, if possible, 1/4000 sec. this gets the wing tips frozen.
I control the iso so my shutter speed is fast enough. If lighting conditions change, my shutter speed will change, but NOT THAT MUCH. Probably two or three stops, which is no big deal.
Here is the thing RahulKhosla, we now live in a digital world, not a film one, we can now experiment and see our results right away, so start shooting using different approaches. What works for someone else will not work for you.
So try manual with auto iso. Try aperture priority using manual iso, and letting the exposure compensation make minor adjustments. But experiment, do not take any ONE way as the only way to do something.
I use Manual, Shutter Priority, Auto ISO, Manual ISO, it all depends on what I am trying to do for the final image.
It is not about one approach, it is about the right approach under the current conditions that you are shooting under.
Black Crowned Night Heron, Nikon D500, Nikon 200-500 lens, 1/320 sec. f5.6, ISO 1600, A Priority, -1 exposure compensation.
Using auto ISO may result in a too high ISO, if yo... (show quote)


What an absolutely superb shot.

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May 7, 2020 11:25:56   #
Tex-s
 
RahulKhosla wrote:
Thanks. Like I said, I do the same as you and have been quite happy but I was curious as to why so many people use Aperture priority for wildlife photography


I’m not speaking for me but I’m friendly with a few shooters who find the best aperture performance-wise for their long range shooting and lock it there. If defining every bird feather is the goal, then assigning the best resolving aperture first (call it 5.6 for argument’s sake) and then setting ISO to achieve a usable shutter speed is a solid plan.

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May 7, 2020 11:56:34   #
photoman43
 
I shoot with Nikon bodies. I set Aperture Priority and Auto ISO. In Auto ISO, I set the range of acceptable ISOs--usually 100 to 25600. The second setting in Auto ISO is the minimum shutter speed. And that varies for what I am shooting and the lens I am using. It could be from 1/250 to 1/3200.

I set the aperture I want by turning the command wheel on the camera. The aperture chosen again varies by conditions present and what I am shooting and backgrounds and depth of field considerations. The camera then picks the ISO needed for light present. In my nature shooting, the light is often changing and I do not want to change the ISO manually.

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May 7, 2020 12:13:51   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Holy cow!! That's a GREAT shot.


Thanks, by the way, that is an invasive Armored Catfish in it's beak.

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May 7, 2020 13:17:19   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Tex-s wrote:
I’m not speaking for me but I’m friendly with a few shooters who find the best aperture performance-wise for their long range shooting and lock it there. If defining every bird feather is the goal, then assigning the best resolving aperture first (call it 5.6 for argument’s sake) and then setting ISO to achieve a usable shutter speed is a solid plan.



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May 7, 2020 13:21:05   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
billnikon wrote:
Thanks, by the way, that is an invasive Armored Catfish in it's beak.


Thanks. At first glance I thought it was a crawfish. I've seen and photographed a bunch of Great Blue Herons trying to swallow these catfish. Usually successful after a bit of time but I have seen some give up and drop them and walk away.

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May 7, 2020 14:53:55   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
RahulKhosla wrote:
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manual mode + auto ISO so far but am curious about how Aperture priority would work for situations where the subject is moving quickly (eg BIF or a tiger chasing a deer) and so you need pretty high shutter speeds to avoid motion blur (say 1/2000 - 1/4000)...

To answer, how would it work? POORLY! As already suggested, when both DOF and stop action are important, M + auto ISO.

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May 7, 2020 15:26:06   #
markwilliam1
 
billnikon wrote:
Thanks, by the way, that is an invasive Armored Catfish in it's beak.

Wish I lived in Florida Bill! We have nothing like that in NE Ohio Lol!

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May 7, 2020 15:36:50   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
Wish I lived in Florida Bill! We have nothing like that in NE Ohio Lol!


Interesting, I worked in Lorain County and Parma City. Small world. We are now 6 months at Pymatuning Lake and 6 months in Florida.
Anyway you do have the The Holden Arboretum. And in Ashtabula County you have lots and lots of covered bridges and during the fall leaves it is outstanding.
You also have Magee Marsh Wildlife Area. That's where I started.

Yes, I am blessed to have five county and one federal preserve within a half hour of our home in Florida.

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May 7, 2020 16:11:55   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
RahulKhosla wrote:
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manual mode + auto ISO so far but am curious about how Aperture priority would work for situations where the subject is moving quickly (eg BIF or a tiger chasing a deer) and so you need pretty high shutter speeds to avoid motion blur (say 1/2000 - 1/4000).

So many wildlife photographers swear by Aperture priority mode and I can certainly see the logic in terms of having to fiddle with one less variable (shutter speed which the camera controls).

However, if I need reasonable DoF AND and I also simultaneously need high shutter speed, then a higher F stop to provide more DoF would automatically slow down the shutter speed, wouldn't it? And thus create the very motion blur that I want to avoid?

Cranking up the ISO or EV could be a solution but would love to hear advice on this.
I have been following Steve Perry's advice on Manu... (show quote)


You have assessed the situation well. Auto-exposure modes have advantages and disadvantages. You are on the right track for learning.

Does you’re camera have a “shutter priority” mode? When might you want to use that?

A couple more questions for you:
Why trust the camera to set things for you? Why not take the steer by the horns and wrestle him to the ground? How about M mode, when might that be useful? How would that work with auto-ISO? Fixed ISO? When is each appropriate?

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May 7, 2020 17:55:36   #
Boone Loc: Groundhog Town USA
 
Grahame wrote:
Firstly, I am not aware how many use Aperture priority for wildlife or suggesting it is a good method but here's a couple of thoughts;

a) it could be that they have assessed the present lighting conditions and determined (by test or knowledge) that say for any aperture change they make between f/2.8 and f/8 that they will use to achieve the DoFs they want, the camera will give speeds in an acceptable range for the ISO they have set.

b) it could be that they use Aperture priority with Auto ISO and have a 'minimum' speed set that will cater for any animal movement expected.
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B) is correct! (and so is A) I shoot in manual because that's how I was brought up. (Old School) But your answer is correct if one chooses to use AP.

Thanks,
Boone.

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May 7, 2020 21:12:37   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
photoman43 wrote:
I shoot with Nikon bodies. I set Aperture Priority and Auto ISO. In Auto ISO, I set the range of acceptable ISOs--usually 100 to 25600. The second setting in Auto ISO is the minimum shutter speed. And that varies for what I am shooting and the lens I am using. It could be from 1/250 to 1/3200.

I set the aperture I want by turning the command wheel on the camera. The aperture chosen again varies by conditions present and what I am shooting and backgrounds and depth of field considerations. The camera then picks the ISO needed for light present. In my nature shooting, the light is often changing and I do not want to change the ISO manually.
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Agree. Aperture Priority with auto ISO and minimum shutter speed usually works well with my Nikons. I also set max ISO to control ISO and settings depend on usage and which camera is being used. Don’t usually use Shutter Priority unless at the races.

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May 8, 2020 10:06:16   #
custodian Loc: New York
 
Omg that shot is absolutely stunning!

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May 8, 2020 10:08:14   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
custodian wrote:
Omg that shot is absolutely stunning!


Thanks, it is nice to have so many wild life preserves close by when we are in Florida.

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May 14, 2020 08:57:40   #
Beachhawk
 
I think you may have misunderstood. You use aperture priority to control your depth of field and shutter priority to control how you show action in your photos. I would think that auto ISO and shutter priority would be the best way to photograph wildlife.

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