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Aug 8, 2021 22:34:21   #
fergmark wrote:
Speaking of rusty gold. There is a long since deactivated asphalt plant nearby, where I go from time to time. I climbed up onto a wall to peer into these gravel hoppers. These are two of them. Some of the rust made me think of a landscape. Not sure why the bluish colors were in there, but went with the blue sky, which I cropped to a thinner bar of blue. Another interesting thing is this gigantic drum. I assume it turned around, mixing the asphalt.


These are kind of wonderful - richly textured with natural patterns and structure. I am strongly reminded of a project by a photographer who I think may have left UHH before you came on board - Jim Hill. This particular project involved photos of trash dumpsters. He called it Dumpster Dive and he did some gallery shows with it. He was a remarkably talented guy, and I miss seeing his offerings.
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Aug 8, 2021 22:30:14   #
ebrunner wrote:
I'm glad that people are showing some of their past prime flowers. Originally we thought that we could call the topic Rusty Gold. That would have probably inhibited people from showing organic decline. I'm glad that R.G. got me off that title. I think it opened up the topic and attracted more diverse posts.

I love the rose. I like the way the background fades to dark. Very attractive.
Erich


Thanks. An ipad makes a pretty interesting background for small things - you can turn it off like this and have a sleek black reflective surface, or turn it on and have a light source with or without a picture of a background or texture or color.
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Aug 8, 2021 22:27:37   #
fergmark wrote:
wonderful shot!


Thanks Mark!
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Aug 8, 2021 22:26:54   #
cbtsam wrote:
Well, you'll get no scolding from me, just Bravo! and Bravo! But I've had that experience of scolding as well; one group admin on flickr ran me out of her flower group for posting such images! No worries; there are many many flower groups!

Just a small nit to pick if you don't mind too awfully much. Since these specimens remind me all too much of what I see in the mirror each morning - although my own image is much less pleasing to behold - I prefer to avoid words like 'dying' or 'dead,' and prefer instead a term like 'declining.' As the poet said, I ain't done ... yet. And as long as these beauties elicit your admiration and mine, they ain't done yet either. To use your terms, they're just old and/or unfortunate, but still somehow lovely to behold whenever we take the time to look. I think that's the spirit of wabi-sabi.
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I never object to any kind of conversation, including nit picks! Point well taken. I prefer the old things to the new in most instances so my fondness for this "declining" stuff is just part of who I am. Let's keep looking for the beauty, shall we?
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Aug 8, 2021 17:00:22   #
ebrunner wrote:
This boat seems an oddity to me. It is docked at a marina that is pretty close to downtown Toms River (background). I can understand a marina going out of business and the facilities deteriorating; but that boat had to have been someone's pride and joy once. They don't come cheap, why would you just let it sit and decay? I did not got overboard (ugh!) on the processing because the boat really is that dingy looking.


Images with puzzles in them are more interesting. Nice catch!
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Aug 8, 2021 16:58:50   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Fascinating composition of disparate elements.


I meant it to be slightly confusing. I like that kind of image (thus my attraction to the dam birds!)
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Aug 8, 2021 16:58:01   #
ebrunner wrote:
That is amazing. It looks like it is a composite. Really nice work. Great find and perfect for the topic.
Erich


Thanks. The sunset was surreal, and I almost settled for the nice old houses and the train tracks, but I'm glad I thought to combine the ruined buildings with it too. There's a little HDR to the processing that may add to the surreal effect.
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Aug 8, 2021 16:55:43   #
Curmudgeon wrote:
Too much going on for me to keep track of. It's been fun, see you next month


Glad you're having fun, and look forward to seeing you next month if not before!

This section, FYC, was started with the notion that it would be kind of like an online coffee shop, where customers could come in and leave at will. Sometimes the shop will be busy, raucous, and crowded. Sometimes it will be almost empty. Some customers will come every day and stay for hours, while others will drop in every few weeks, and stay just a while. Some want to jabber with everyone, others just want a quiet conversation with the person they came with, and others want to be left in peace to enjoy their coffee and newspaper. Any of that is OK. The shop is always open and you are always welcome!
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Aug 8, 2021 16:51:15   #
R.G. wrote:
I eventually got round to going out for some new stuff to post in this thread. I got this today. Part of the story is that it's quite close to Aberdeen city centre (but there's no way to convey that in the shot). Derelict buildings on the edge of town aren't as poignant as those close to town or city centres. There's something in us that wants the centre of our universes to be fully functional.

I could have gone for a more desaturated look to add to the look of deterioration but I'd used the WB and Tint sliders plus some split toning to give an overall green/blue colour cast and those colours don't go against the desired look the way that warmer colours would. I also left the lighting on the low side deliberately, and gave it generous amounts of sharpening.
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You definitely found an appropriate subject for the theme. I like very much that the crumbling hulk of buildings is set off with those beautiful purple flowers. Beauty finds a way.
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Aug 8, 2021 16:49:18   #
cbtsam wrote:
As you say, it's a theory, and it does describe many of our impulses, to emphasize the decay of human-made objects, and try to revive decaying biological ones. On the other hand, the Japanese have a concept they call wabi-sabi. Originally used in a religious context, wabi denoted the loneliness of living in nature, apart from society, and sabi meant “chill,” “lean” or “withered”. Over time, Japan was influenced by the zen buddhism that was imported from China between the 8th and 12th centuries, and wabi-sabi came to be connected to the Buddha's declaration that all things - natural and human made - are imperfect, impermanent, and essentially interconnected, and that we do best when we learn to embrace this imperfection, impermanence, and the incompleteness we suffer when we don't embrace that interconnection. This developed into an aesthetic, which seeks to display the beauty that is to be found in imperfection and impermanence, and thus to help us learn to embrace it and connect to it, so that eventually we can embrace the imperfection and impermanence of our own lives, and to see the connections that constitute it, and to see beauty there. So they seek to overcome our discomfort with the withered objects of the world by seeing and embracing their beauty, and even emphasizing it in human made objects, and thus connecting to it. So, maybe we tend to emphasize the decay of human-made objects to enhance our connection to these things, while we are already drawn to the beauty of the natural world, and have to learn to embrace the decay to be found there. Another theory.
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I learned about this theory from another UHH member after I posted a number of images of this type, but had not know before that there was a name for my fascination. I've been scolded by online critics for not choosing more perfect specimens for nature closeups. In general, folks seem more tolerant of photos of imperfection in manmade objects (if they are old), and even in people if they're old or unfortunate) than in nature, where there is more tendency to seek out the pristine.

The dying rose is pretty much SOOC, shot with in-camera focus-stacking as it sat on my iPad. The dead weed in shown against a textured backdrop, added in post (the original background was black swamp water).


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Aug 8, 2021 15:31:39   #
Sunset, Framed - The downtown area of Edwards, a small town near here, has lost a lot of buildings to many years of neglect. I took a lot of pictures the day I was there for this amazing sunset, and framed a few through the ruins of the old collapsed storefronts. This was my favorite.


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Aug 6, 2021 17:01:22   #
fergmark wrote:
I live some twenty miles south of Bridgeport Ct. It has the highest population of all the cities in Connecticut, and it is a paradise for urban decay. A short journey up I95 whenever I feel an urge to photograph this sort of thing. While driving around, I spotted the shot tower of the old Remington Arms, and found my way over to it. It has an interesting history, and I am including a couple of links if you want to find out a little about that. When I pulled over to the curb, I had to decide if I even wanted to get out of my vehicle with an expensive camera. I was that impressed by my surroundings. I got over it, and have been back quite a few times thereafter. There are vast neighborhoods where I yearn to venture out and do some street photography, but I am way to wary. So,

#1. Is the shot tower. This one had a better sky than most I have taken.

https://www.hauntedrooms.com/connecticut/haunted-places/remington-arms-bridgeport

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/remington-shot-tower

#2. This cemetery is adjacent to the 73 acres that comprise of The Remington Arms property. The date of the deceased on the right hand side is 1881.

#3. Over on the good side of town.

#4. In the adjacent town of Stratford, is a small parking lot from which you can follow a path into the estuary of the sound. This is unfortunately also a somewhat scary area, based on a conversation I had with a local. I just liked the switchover amongst the weeds along the path.

#5. Also in Stratford is a large area of no longer used buildings. These really appeal to me for the simple colors and geometry. And of course that they have been abandoned.

#6. From another town to the north, Shelton, I have found many interesting sights including some very extensive graffiti art in the railroad tunnels. These buildings seemed worth stopping for.

#7. All I know as to location on this was somewhere in the Catskills. A friend was driving and he was more than happy to pull over when I saw something of interest. Walked around the back side of this structure along a country road. If anything I processed to enhance the surface textures.

#8. When in Vermont I am on the lookout for barns and such. This from a tiny town of Danby, which has all manner of good such subjects.

#9. The Salton Sea. I love this image. It seems to say it all for me. That is, regarding its demise. I include a link for those of you who are not familiar with it. https://www.california.com/what-happened-salton-sea/

#10. Lastly, Bethlehem Steel Company. Acres upon acres of interesting structures long abandoned. Shortly after this picture was taken I met a very nice man from Homeland Security. He said I wasn't supposed to be there.
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These are very nice. Each of them either tells a story or offers a mystery to ponder. If I had to pick favorites it would be #1 and #8 though I agree with you that the Salton Sea one is a fine image reminiscent of Stephen Shore.

Your editing brings out the detail without overwhelming it. Well done.

And I relate to some of your difficult decisions. I live near the largest city in MS, with ample urban decay to keep me interested, but it has become so dangerous that I no longer go photo-hunting alone, and some places won't go at all.
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Aug 6, 2021 16:57:33   #
captivecookie wrote:
Absolutely love this work of art. I fully encourage grunge techniques as a method to show the beauty seen in old things as interpreted by the photographer.


Thank you very much. I agree. I favor using grunge to emphasize the beauty rather than using grunge to emphasize ugliness.
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Aug 6, 2021 16:56:39   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Aside from my abandoned mill, I probably don't take "harsh" far enough with these subjects. For many years, Minnie, your work has been ultra-engaging and instructive.


Thank ya Linda! We all find our own version of everything we photograph, and it's important to feel right about our own voice.
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Aug 6, 2021 16:55:36   #
R.G. wrote:
Photos of decay and decline aren't about pleasantness or feeling comfortable so we're less concerned about using moderation or trying to avoid overcooking. Most landscape shots are about pleasantness, but when they're not we show the same willingness to embrace extreme adjustments and to push for a harsher look. I suppose it's like when you see portrait shots of wizened or weatherbeaten people where the processing has deliberately produced an uber-grunge look.


I have done some grungy processing of wrinkled and weatherbeaten people but not nearly as extreme as some I've seen. I'm more likely to grunge up the environment than the people, though sometimes it's impossible to separate them out. There are masters of that genre who reveal interesting characters, and there are times when I feel like one can go too far in making unfortunates look even more unfortunate. It's a topic that could be discussed forever, with no real rights and wrongs, just opinions.
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