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Oct 20, 2017 11:39:41   #
ON1? Read the reviews, read the specs, does it work for your requirements? ON1 looks like it has a lot of great options and....can't beat 'FREE' for 30 days
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Oct 20, 2017 11:31:45   #
repleo wrote:
I was a little puzzled by the number of UHHrs who associate guns with cameras. As I thought about it, I came to realize why so many birders 'shoot' their subject dead center. All that's missing is the crosshairs. If it wasn't for those godarn liberals and their environmental laws they could blow that bald eagle right out of the sky !!!


OOPS, President Nixon, an evil Republican put into law the 'Endangered Species Act' which includes the Bald Eagle. BTW, I and I'm sure others, take exception with your comment. I, and others hunt, many have a great selection of tools, however I'm, and I'm sure others, are very aware and respectful of all environmental laws. Now I prefer to 'shoot' with my camera, all species.....but when I, or my wife who loves wild game, get a hankering for some Moose, Deer, Elk, Pheasant, Quail in the refrig.....BANG!!! 😇😇😇 Now my Sony does most of the talking, but once in a while, my Browning likes to get a word in now & then.....

Now back to the topic at hand, as for beginning or upgrading, go for as much as you can reasonably afford, then save for more, more, more
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Oct 20, 2017 11:22:49   #
From what I've read, heard and the continual 'push' Abode has been giving me to move to the Cloud, I think the entire issue between Lightroom or another program comes down to whether an individual wants to be tied to the cloud or a stand alone program...Most all are great programs and will do whatever their users want them to do or they will migrate somewhere else. If you're used to one program and like it, stay with it. Those are choices an individual makes based on their own specific needs....my One Cents worth
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Oct 20, 2017 10:54:14   #
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Oct 20, 2017 10:51:28   #
mrjcall wrote: "Actually, that's a myth. If you do the math, the monthly subscription is generally no more expensive than a purchase..."

That well may be true but there's absolutely NO guarantee Adobe won't raise subscription prices (every other subscription I have has gone up, I expect LRCC to go up also), decrease minimum subscription storage space or increase storage prices....since it seems all programs are migrating to SaaS. Additionally you get upgrades with the subscription but are those upgrades so minor its hardly worth paying for over time? Different strokes for different folks. Me personally, I prefer the stand alone system and that's just me.
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Oct 20, 2017 09:27:48   #
Man Cave 😉😉😉😉 'He who has the most toys when he dies wins.....I'll never win since I sell off things I don't use anymore. However, another poster suggested a cheap gun safe from Harbor Freight, that sounds like an excellent idea, store it in a closet in the spare bedroom. In fact I'm going to Harbor Freight this week to look for one myself.
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Oct 20, 2017 09:19:01   #
I've had them both. I also have a Sony A77ii, still have the 6300 and use it for all my travels. The Sony 10-18, f4, OSS, while not cheap, is an awesome lens, pair that with the Sony SEL 18-200 and you got it covered. I also use it (A6300) with a Sony SAL 70-400 w/LA-EA3 and its works great with some limitations. Staying with my 6300 since I absolutely love it
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Oct 20, 2017 09:08:15   #
Just moved from Lightroom 6 to Capture One Pro (Sony) $50.00 and liking it....different features but learning curve is fast and has a few other options I like (cataloging & sessions). My 2 cents
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Oct 20, 2017 07:20:23   #
Great points, all, good comments all. Money no object? Heck yeah, buy anything you want but one thing is certain, the camera doesn't make the photographer, its only a tool, the best tools always help but only if you know how to use them. I would love to have worked with a professional, especially starting out, versus watching a video....on hands, in field experience learning techniques with a pro beats a video any day. Sadly, not all will be able to work with a pro but hands on classes and videos are available. I offer this versus a gun analogy....I learned to fly not by watching a video but by an instructor there to guide me, glad I did. Flying and photography is only analogous in that its best to learn the basics before you get into the more complex. But for now I will have to continue to practice with what cameras I have, although not cheap for my budget, but definitely not nearly in the 850 class....'If you got it, flaunt it, may not be a good photographer but at least you'll look the part' 🙂🙂
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Oct 19, 2017 20:01:03   #
Thanks and more than welcome Framer
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Oct 19, 2017 10:00:58   #
Thanks Bruce for the info, appreciate the comments. Glad its working for you....since my personal requirements don't require the need for 'Cloud' services and I don't want to pay extra for storage, I'll stay with LR6 and look at other options if need be...top of the day to ya pardner, finally a day here in Florida without wind & rain 🙂
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Oct 19, 2017 09:43:41   #
Thanks, it was cool, especially in a historical way, not to mention the really cool cathedral
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Oct 19, 2017 09:25:51   #
Yes I have a subscription to Netflix, its what I want. No I don't have a subscription to Adobe's Cloud services or even Microsoft's for Office. Seems to me that if you need Adobe's CC versus their standalone version, you'll use whatever suits your business/personal needs. I have been using LR6 and am always enticed to move to the Cloud, seems like daily. Since my requirements are not professional and primarily personal use only, I've consistently refused to move to a SaaS for LR and paying a monthly fee for basically 'minor' updates....doesn't make economic sense, TO ME. I would prefer to pay an appropriate fee for a 'Major' update every two-three years or so versus being Nickeled & Dimed to death, again My Opinion....however seems the future of many applications is subscriptions, its definitely a money maker. Just think when you have about 5-10 subscriptions/Applications you're paying for and as your requirements evolve, maybe some of those programs are used less & less and yet you're still paying for them, especially if you forget to cancel the ones you're not using, not that that would ever happen to me 😊. If it gets to the point that LR6 is no longer meeting my requirements, I'll move to another standalone software and there are many programs out there to purchase (just another learning curve to master).
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Oct 19, 2017 06:13:10   #
Beautiful Photos, great place to visit and so picturesque....was there a year back and loved it
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Oct 18, 2017 13:58:14   #
Thanks Cibafan, appreciate it
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