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Nov 1, 2019 14:16:05   #
Arcadia1969 wrote:
I’ve done 3 African photographers safaris. Canon 5D3 and 7D2. I kept the 24-105 on the 5D3 and the 100-400 on the 7D2. I used the 100-400 the majority of the time. It can get very dusty, I didn’t try to change lenses. Have fun, should be awesome.


Thanks Arcadia1969 ... you addressed one thing I'd thought about but hadn't focused upon & that is which body. I have 2 full frame 5d2 & a 6d plus I have the cropped sensor 7d2. I've been thinking taking the 5d & 7d but hadn't decided which would have the long lens & which would have the walk around ... so you mentioning the 100-400 on your 7d2 would give me a bit more reach, so that may in fact be the way I go as well. I envy you having done 3 photo safaris ... but hopefully one day I'll catch up. As an aside, I enjoyed the Ophir Pass post you put up a while back on UHH. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
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Nov 1, 2019 14:09:43   #
ling99 wrote:
If you are driving from Nairobi to any camp, have a slow motion video ready, the sights will be unbelievable. We saw a motorcycle with a couch attached and a passenger sitting on it. Caskets (with bodies) on top of the car heading for the village for funeral services on Fridays. Amazing. I could tell you so many things, but mainly that the trip will be spectacular - we have traveled all over and this tops for so many reasons. By the way, we saw a Natgeo vehicle in the Masai Mara - oh yeah, huge remote control camera on the front of the vehicle and a sign asking you not to follow the car. Way out of a regular person's league. So no Natgeo pictures, but some impressive and cool ones never the less. We saw lions, cheetahs stalking, a leopard in a tree consuming a gazelle, a lion eating a zebra, giraffe, buzzards consuming zebra, in addition to thousands animals making their way. SPECTACULAR
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Be still my beating heart!!!! I have said to others, that out of the box, I was more excited about this trip than any prior trip. And the more I learn, the more like a kid before Christmas I become. And if that wasn't bad enough, then I get comments like yours & those of so many Hogs who've done this sort of trip raving about their experiences & it makes me want to go now. Thank you for that ... & for the video suggestion. I seldom take videos but it sounds like that might be something to try when on the road. Can't wait to get going. Thanks for taking the time to comment again. I appreciate it.
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Nov 1, 2019 14:04:57   #
RWebb76 wrote:
I just got back from a trip to S. Africa and Namibia. A bit different situation in that (I think) animals in Kenya are in a more open environment, thus more movement. Right now, it is summer. That means that the bulk of the animals will be looking for water at watering holes rather than puddles...thus it is easier to get photos of them. (Again...different parts of the continent..so take that into account.) I absolutely positively recommend that you take two bodies. It can get very very dusty quickly. No way of changing lenses in the back of a safari vehicle. I had two micro 4/3 bodies...one with a 12-100 Pro Oly and the other with a 100-400 Leica Panasonic. I used the 12-100 most of the time, but did need the reach on a few occasions. The combo was perfect. (This will also be determined by where you go and if your guide can drive off the roads..in some instances we were allowed to and in others, we were not.) I recommend the 24-104 and the 100-400. Also, as mentioned, some people take a Sony bridge camera. I would think this would work well too. Maybe next time for me.

Also, I set up a pre-determined custom setting so that if there were action type shots, I could press a button and put my camera into a shutter priority- auto ISO- focus tracking - high speed mode. I used it once at a cheetah run. Usually I was either manual or A priority.

Animals get active at night...but often, game drives are not allowed at night. When the sun starts setting, you will quickly find that it gets dark and the limits of your camera will be tested. (As I said, mine was an M4/3 so I had more limitations than you.) You really have to bump up the ISO to get any kind of shots.

People think they are going to go to Africa and get Nat Geo pics...it may happen, but for the most part the photos will be memorable, but not Nat Geo quality. To do that you have to spend many many hours / days watching / tracking animals. You might get lucky to see a predator / prey chase or something, but don't count on it.

Take a pocket rocket, several lens pens, micro cloths and cleaning solution to deal with the dust. I had to clean my cameras, almost like guns, at the end of the day. On one game drive in the desert, they were covered in white powdery dust.

There are people in Africa! Interesting, wonderful people! I prefer people photography to animal photography any day of the week...including Africa. Do what you can to do some cultural adventures...meet the people. You wont be sorry.

Finally, once in a while, just put the camera down and enjoy the experience. The animals, etc...constantly looking through a view finder is no way to experience the place. Enjoy.
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Thank you RWebb76. Very thoughtful advice & all of it makes sense to me. You & I are different in one respect, however, I personally prefer wildlife & scenic photography vs. people photography. But your point is well taken. I want to enjoy every thing I can about this trip so I will try to record the streets scenes I see (other Hogs have said similar things). Your advice on lens is consistent with my current thinking (24-105 & 100-400 with 2 bodies). Your suggestion of a predetermined setting for action shots is something I hadn't thought of ... which is a really good suggestion. So thanks for taking the time to write such thoughtful comments. Oh ... & one last thought ... I would like nothing better than to someday capture a National Geo level shot ... but the chances of that ever happening are probably slim to none just as you point out. I'm retired now & photography is my avocation & I'm trying to get better at it, so hopefully, I can capture a really good shot now & again. That would make me happy. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
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Nov 1, 2019 12:44:32   #
JFCoupe wrote:
You will find your trip amazing and most likely exceeding all of your expectations.

My experience in Tanzania in April 2019 was that the more 'reach' the better. I shoot with Olympus OMD EM1 MK II bodies, so there is a 2x crop factor with lenses. On one body, I used the Panasonic 100-400 and probably shot 95+% of 12,500 images with this lens. On my second body I had an Olympus 12-100 f4 lens. I have not done a search but would not be surprised that a majority of my shots were at 600 mm or equivalent. So again, the more reach the better.

You do want two bodies, first because of dust, and secondly because things can happen quickly and you might need the wider view angle as animals move closer to your vehicle.

Have a great time on your trip.
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Thanks JFCoupe ... I thought my days of getting so excited about a trip were in the rear view mirror. But comments like yours & others along with those of the fellow I'm going with, have heightened my excitement beyond the level of a kid I think. When I go someplace, I have to admit that I take a lot of images because if I mess 1 or more up, I'm always hopeful that at least 1 will come out right. But 12,500 shots in 1 trip? The only time I ever even shot that many was a recent 6 week trip when I shot 14k shots. Hope that you do plan to post some of the shots you took. And got it on the 2 bodies. Appreciate you taking the time to comment. Thanks.
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Nov 1, 2019 12:37:54   #
Amaize wrote:
Long lens is the main issue in the bush, longer the better. 400mm is great. I’m not one for lens extender as quality drops and you can do just as well blowing up the original. I have had occasional situation of lions being too close — like circling Jeep/or friends having cheetah jumping on jeep — not too frequent but not rare either. My recommendation is always just to chase cats ! You will see all the other stuff, but cats offer the most drama — they are the ones that hunt. We would sit on some sleeping cats for an hour or more waiting. Prowling cats are incredible. Absolutely essential to be in open top Jeep, NOT open side. I recommend 3 people max per Jeep, so you can move easily. Keep windows in Jeep open and somehow find a way to constantly tell yourself to get on knees and shoot thru windows, so you get a low angle — so easy to forget in the midst of action, but you get some very nice shots down low. Very important to talk with guide ahead of time and be sure he/she understands you need to be in charge. Stop when you want — Go at speed you want. I would watch speedometer and usually tell guide “29kms/he here or 40 at another place. It should be a working relationship btwn the two of you — and never hesitate to say “let’s go back, I missed a shot.” I’ve never been keen on a night drive. One thing you can do is have your box lunch at your side and nibble along the way — they always give you too much. Don’t go back to lodge for lunch or stop to eat. Just keep on move sunrise-sunset. If space/equip an issue, get new iPhone and use that for “other” shots. I use for videos, esp close ups. Recently blew up a pano of NYC from Rock Cntr to 20X60in — the detail was mind blowing. Plus it has most all the major adjustments as Photoshop. And will do you great at night. If you have choices, Masai Mara is the best in Kenya and you could spend all your days there. One thing in Kenya, they don’t always respect the animals and move in too close, can become a mass riot of jeeps. I was there last Jan and got lucky to see migration/water crossing — literally thousands of wildebeests. Totally crazy. If you are carrying camera in town and have a pop screen, it is always nice to shoot people from the hip — rather than camera up to your eye. Also in markets get contact info and send people photos — they love it. Strongly consider a donation and maybe go see Najin and Fatu, last two remaining Norther White Rhino

https://www.olpejetaconservancy.org/wildlife/rhinos/northern-white-rhinos/
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Great comments Amaize & recomendations. Like your comment about staying low & shooting through windows. Thanks for that. Thanks for the link to the Ol Pejeta Conservancy. We're staying near there & actually planning to go there the last +/-4 days in Kenya. That's something I've heard of & will enjoy. And good feedback re: the use of an extender. I have had pretty good luck with the 1.4x but struggled a bit with the 2x, all of which may speak to the fact that I've only been serious about photography for the last 4 or 5 years or so.

I also liked your suggestions of shooting in the market & sharing photos. Hadn't thought of that.

As an aside, I started out this process much like a kid waiting for Christmas. The posts from Hogs who have been there have only heightened my excitement. Thank you very much for taking the time to write such an informative list of suggestions. I really appreciate it.

PS: Really like your Avatar ... you don't say where you're from ... but it suggests you might live in Africa?
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Nov 1, 2019 12:23:37   #
Jwshelton wrote:
My experience in Kenya was excellent. What have you been told by the tour operator? They are the best source as they know exactly how the tour will be conducted. I was in the Masi Mara for ten days. We did a drive in the morning and one again mid-afternoon. Most of the “shooting” was done from a vehicle. There really was not a lot of “walking around.” We did get out on occasion, but not often near any animals. We also visited a village one day.
You need reach and a faster lens. The 70-200 is a good choice and your 600 will certainly give you reach. Pick one of the other lens that you like for a bit of wide angle.
Changing lenses can be a challenge with the dust. Two bodies will be a big plus.
I used bean bags to rest the cameras on in most circumstances when shooting from the vehicle. Each photographer had an entire row and could move from side to side with no obstruction. I kept a bean bag on each side.

Again, talk to your tour operator about conditions and shooting expectations.

As others have said, ENJOY! Take time to just fell the beauty of the space and the animals.

One thing I need not realize was the number of birds in Africa. Your long lens will be a great addition.

PM me if you have any specific questions.
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Thanks Jwshelton, I've reached out to the tour operator re: lenses & they pointed me toward the guide who has not yet responded. It doesn't surprise me that most shooting, particularly near animals is from within the vehicle (I'd prefer it that way ... I try not to be stupid around wild animals). But definitely thinking 2 bodies with a long lens on one of them. Appreciate the comment re: birds. I've been focused on the prospect of the bigger animals. And thanks of the offer of a PM. I may well take you up on that.
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Nov 1, 2019 12:19:40   #
ling99 wrote:
I don't have one, the the Nikon P1000 has amazing zoom - checked it out at camera store. And should have better low light capability than the 900. I'd love to know from an actual user. I think it is supposed to be good for birds also, and plenty of birds in Africa. My husband has some great shots with a Sony cybershot point and shoot. And yes, you can be amazingly close to any of the animals, even leopards or lions. Animals pay no attention to the vehicles.
We were limited to 33 pound duffle bag for traveling Kenya and Tanzania by land cruiser. And count on very dusty environment. The parks do not have paved roads.
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Thanks for the comment ... & in particular re: the 33 lbs duffle bag limit. That actually makes sense to me. I'm still awaiting info from the tour company & a response from the guide re: lenses & other suggestions. Appreciate you taking the time to comment.
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Nov 1, 2019 12:17:22   #
mikegreenwald wrote:
I used ziplocks on African and other trips, and they certainly help when there’s dust, sea spray, and similar problems. I always carry a transparent as well. However I’ve never had a problem with dust - there always seems to be a place available where lens changes are possible.

I notice that several people have recommended the Sony Rx10 MkIV because of the range and dedicated lens. The camera has been highly recommended on other posts also. However my experience with it was less than satisfactory due to excessive noise at high ISO settings, and a question about defective lens coatings causing erratic blurry color spots on some shots. Perhaps I have a lemon, but I no longer trust that camera.
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Thanks for your comment Mike ... between yours & sark17's comments, I think I might take a couple of ziplock but it sounds like dust may be manageable as long as not while following another vehicle.

But it's interesting you have a less favorable view of the Sony. I started to do some research & saw some concerns in the reviews ... the most troubling were 2 things ... 1 were several comments about the build quality & the other was the idea that they are selling an equivalent 24-600mm f/2.4-4 lens. I'm no engineer, so can't attest or refute his comments, but one review wrote:

"This camera is great and gets great reviews for good reason. However, Sony routinely (intentionally) lists the wrong aperture in their 35mm (full-frame) equivalent specs. Yes, the 8.8-220mm lens is equivalent to 24-600mm. However, you have to apply the same crop factor to the aperture. It is f/2.4-4.0 for the 8.8-220mm specs (with a 1-inch sensor), which is the same as f/6.6-10.9 for 24-600mm full-frame equivalent. There's no way around the physics, and Sony (among a few other guilty manufacturers) "forgets" to do the math for the aperture. Just think about it. A 600mm f/4 lens is like 15 lbs. It would have to have a front element that's 150mm in diameter, according to the equation for aperture. That doesn't mean the Sony lens is bad or that the camera takes bad pictures. Just the opposite, in fact. But you simply have to understand that it cannot defy the laws of physics and perform on the same level as an actual 600mm f/4 lens. The main area you will notice this difference in equivalent aperture is in the bokeh of the lens. This Sony lens cannot blur backgrounds the same way that a true 600mm f/4 full-frame lens can, based on aperture alone. Again, that doesn't mean that this camera is bad at all. It is extremely capable and a great camera with nothing else quite like it. I just wish Sony would be honest in their description of the lens."

Given comments like yours about build quality along with like above suggests I have a lot of reading to do before going that route. In fairness, there are also a lot of reviews from people including on UHH, about the camera being great for a travel camera. So I do plan to do some reading.
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Nov 1, 2019 12:01:50   #
Sark17 wrote:
Note - you cannot take plastic bags into most countries in Africa. You could probably sneak some in if you really wanted, but why go against the good they’re trying to do. Ziplocks are fine, but not sure any are big enough to change a camera in. I changed my camera lens multiple times a day and it was never too dusty unless we were actually driving behind another truck.


Thanks Sark17 ... never imagined there might be restrictions against taking in plastic bags. If I go with 2 bodies & 2 lenses (my current thinking), then no need to change lenses. But I think I'll be taking an extender, so if as you say, there are times when it's not too dusty, then I could put the extender on for longer shots. Between your comment & MikeGreenwald, I may take a couple of ziplock to cover if things get really dusty. Really appreciate your comments ... don't hesitate to send any other suggestions (can also send a PM with them if you wish).
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Nov 1, 2019 10:52:26   #
Carl S wrote:
I've been to various countries in Africa half a dozen times, and since I use cropped Nikons, I take two bodies: one with an 18-300 and the other with a 150-600 zoom. Make sure the operator can supply you with bean bags, and just about all guides have experience with photography to put you in the right position and can anticipate any animal movement. I pack several large zip lock bags to keep the cameras out of the dust when moving, and can actually change lenses inside the bags if necessary. My wife uses full-frame Nikons and takes a 500 mm fixed and her 80-400, and will occasionally use an extender, especially for a river crossing because you can't get close to the river as it is usually a traffic jam. And my images are clear, even if they are zoom lenses. We have had animals walk under the bumpers of our vehicles and even have had cheetahs sit on top of an vehicles parked close to us.
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Great suggestions Carl. I hadn't thought about the plastic bags ... that's a good one. I had been thinking about taking an extender but with all the comments re: dust, I began to question that. Your plastic bag suggestion might just be the solution that would allow me to add an extender when I needed more reach.

Initially I thought about taking a long lens like the one your wife uses, but the preponderance of replies seem to agree with my 1st instinct, which not to take it with long airline flights & frequently getting into & out of vehicles. So my thinking now based on the feedback I've gotten to this post, is to go with the 100-400 for longer shots & the 24-205 for the walk around. Thanks for taking the time respond. I appreciate it.
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Nov 1, 2019 10:41:49   #
ClarkG wrote:
Just as important as your lenses, take along a WET sensor cleaning kit! You’ll probably need it!?


Great suggestion Clark ... it's on the list. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
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Nov 1, 2019 09:58:22   #
Sark17 wrote:
And this is what I mean by “too close”. Though it was incredible!


As noted earlier, I appreciated the shot & hope you post some of the photos you took on your trip. What I didn't make note of was to welcome you to the Hog. It's a great organization & I hope you find it satisfying as well. Thanks for taking the time to comment twice.
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Nov 1, 2019 09:54:33   #
stuparr935 wrote:
You only need 2 lenses. If you take more it is a waste of you time and energy in carrying stuff you don’t need around. I have been to Africa 3 times to shoot their beautiful animals. Take only the 24-70 for walking around and your 100-400 for shooting from the Rover (Safari vehicle). You can play with the other equipment that you won’t have to carry around when you get home... two bodies might be good, but the less you have to carry around the better... good luck and have fun...


Thanks for the stop & comment. As I expected, responses have confirmed carrying less is better. I'm now leaning toward the 24-105 (it's slower than the 24-70 but there were comments that light isn't a problem, so I was thinking reach) & the 100-400 for those times when there was a need for some reach. There is to be 1 night safari drive & I've wondered if your 24-70 suggestion might then be the better short option? Another hog suggested a Sony with 1 lens that goes out to 600mm & he posted some nice shots using it. So I'll look at that but while 1 camera & lens is very attractive, I have to convince myself I'll use it when I get back. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it.
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Nov 1, 2019 09:10:18   #
Wow Chris ... you make a heck of a recommendation with those shots. And the comments of others seem to back you up. I thank you for sending me this link so I could see what you grabbed. I have to get myself over the reluctance to leave my full sensor at home & take a single camera. But you've convinced me I should at least look at the Sony. Thank you for that sir. I appreciate it. And great shots. You're also adding to the excitement I'm feeling about my upcoming trip.
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Nov 1, 2019 09:04:34   #
Sark17, OMG!!!!! Now that's so close, even the 24-105 wouldn't capture all of that critter. Thanks for sharing that. Hope to see some of your shots posted on UHH. Thanks.

ChrisEdwardsUSA, as soon as I catch up on responding, I'll go look at your post. Thank you for taking the time to forward it. Appreciate it.

Rhinophoto, thanks for the 2 recommendations. As noted earlier, I'd been leaning toward the 70-200 because it's faster but you & several folks talk about going out to 400mm, so I may change my mind. And in particular, thanks for the suggestion to put the camera down & take the time just to look. That can be a challenge for me because I typically try to capture everything through the lens. So thanks for that ... another "growth challenge".
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