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Nov 16, 2019 10:37:48   #
OH that's just awesome (and cute too)
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Nov 16, 2019 10:15:06   #
SueScott wrote:
The path that some PCA congregations is taking is quite concerning - our church is part of the Pittsburgh Presbytery, one of the most conservative presbyteries in the country. We just installed a new pastor (after an 18month wait!) who is very Reformed and is already making a positive impact on the congregation.


Awesome!
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Nov 16, 2019 09:22:38   #
SueScott wrote:
We're members of a PCA church.


Glad to hear it. In this day and age that's somewhat rare. Hopefully your church still holds to the bible's authority and hasn't gone off the reservation like the USPCA has and some of the PCA has already.
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Nov 16, 2019 09:15:15   #
soba1 wrote:
Wow I see awesome I am going to have to explore this site.


Please don't.

They value men's fallible ideas over God's infallible word when it comes to Creation.

Is that important? Can't christians differ on how God started everything?

Sure, they do, but the issue isn't one of differing interpretations of the text, the issue is one of authority...One view takes the text as written and believes it, the other goes outside the text and gathers current ideas and attempts to support them with scripture.

You cannot get the big bang and anything other than the actual, 6 24 hour day creation from the text itself. If you do try and mix long ages and or what ever other sort of evolutionary idea with the text, you are starting OUTSIDE the text itself and looking for ways to shore up what you believe...not believing the text itself.

Rather, go to http://www.answersingenesis.org for LOTS of good information about creation from a God honoring perspective.
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Nov 16, 2019 09:07:40   #
Lol...that's awesome. And a Christian who knows what the reformation and the diet of worms was.

You must be some flavor of Calvinist.

Did I guess correctly?
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Nov 8, 2019 09:24:57   #
Free markets work.

Provide a product that people want, at a cost that they are willing to pay, and support that product with service and you will thrive.

Do the opposite and you won't.

Simple stuff.

I don't begrudge WalMart one bit. They have their business model and apparently it's successful. Good for them and all of the folks that they employ.
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Oct 31, 2019 05:24:59   #
bull drink water wrote:
MORE WORMS.
if a meteor wiped out all the dinosaurs, how did the mamals survive?


That's a big "IF".
Anything after the "IF" is pointless.

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if they were small enough to survive the meteor, how did they "evolve" into the veraiety we have today in only 4 or 5 thousand years? maybe all the animale died off from the meteor and there was a second creation of animals without the dinosaurs.


Error comes from the first assumption.

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for you believers, if God let noah put the dinosaurs in the ark, where are they now? are you tellingme God let them come through the flood them just let them die out?


Yes, Noah had two of every land-dwelling animal on the ark so that would include dinos too. They are extinct just like many many many organisms have gone.
Yes, I'm telling you that God saved them to let them die out.

Don't like that idea?

Then modify your made-up God so that he didn't do that.
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Oct 31, 2019 05:22:12   #
rwoodvira wrote:
Here we go again - this truly belongs in The Attic, where everyone has an opinion that they are totally right and others are totally wrong and intolerance unfortunately by some seems to be practiced daily.


I guess the idea that there can be something that's actually "true" is lost on you. By definition, if two conflicting ideas meet, then one is true and the other false, or both are false, both cannot be true. That's basic logic. If you think it's intolerant that a person believes that truth exists and we can know what it is...then I can't help that.

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You will find evil liberal dems, staunch conservatives, religious zealots and confirmed atheists.


And you also. You believe what you are saying is true otherwise you wouldn't have said it so you can include yourself in that category too (unless you want to say "what I just said about intolerance is wrong")

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I haven't found any Satanists yet, but they may be hiding there. As to religion, it's unfortunate that more people in human history have been killed because of it than just about anything.


Which is a 100% false statistic. It tells me what I need to know about your level of experience on the subject...

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If you do believe in a Creator, my guess is that he (or she) must shake their holy head at the foolishness of it all.


Guess can be wrong as this one was.

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Old joke - St. Peter was taking a bunch of the newly deceased on a tour of heaven - when he came to one area he asked everyone to be silent while they went through it because that sect didn't believe anyone else was there.

If you happen to be a Christian as I am, take a look at John 3:16. Not a lot of qualifiers there. Live long & prosper!


As if we all aren't familiar with John 3:16.

The problem is that you inject lots of meaning into that passage that it doesn't say and also reject other parts of the bible that would completely destroy the idea that all religions lead to God or that anything a person believes that's even remotely Christian-like is acceptable to God and equals salvation.

If anyone on this thread wants a good illustration of why there are so many conflicting ideas on the subject just watch folks slice-and-dice the bible to fit their personal God and ideas just as you and bull-drink-water have.
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Oct 31, 2019 05:14:48   #
bull drink water wrote:
it's what you say God said.


Yeah...I can read. Just like I can understand what you are writing here.

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each group believes that God more or less dictated His word to each of them.


Actually no they don't. (if you mean Christianity vs Buddhism vs Hinduism etc...)

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you guys reduce your god to human levels because you can't deal with Him on his level.


Sorry...not even close. However I know where you are coming from, making a God to suit ourselves is very common. In the US it's at epidemic levels. No matter what a person can dream up for his/her particular desires, the God that they believe in is the one who agrees with them.
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Oct 30, 2019 12:02:20   #
bull drink water wrote:
that's religion talking,


Lol...no, that's the bible talking.

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historically a lot of the old testimen doesn't jibe.


Doesn't jibe?

Jibe with what? What you want it to say?

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we have enough trouble dealing with the prime directives God instilled us with at birth. now we have people coming at us from all directions with different instruction manuals on how to get through life. you way is not the only way, it may not be the best way.


It's not my way, it's what God has said. If you don't like it, that's something I can't do anything about.
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Oct 30, 2019 10:11:53   #
bull drink water wrote:
every one else gave their I don't know or you shouldn't ask answeres, you had to go on the attack.


I didn't attack, I merely stated the truth.

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for 65 years I've depended on God to get me through each day. it's only religion that gores my ox.


Too bad that makes no sense except it lets you believe in a God that you've made up in your mind. (that's called idolatry)

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so many things in the bible are left open ended yet we are asked to base our life on it, other parts just don't make sense.


Only if you aren't born-again (actual believer)

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the bible goes into great detail to establish mary as a virgin at the time of Jesus's birth.


The bible states the truth about history.

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the catholic church has a fixation on mary and has tried to make her more then she was.


No argument there.

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I connect with God in my own way it's only the religious that say, if I don't do it their way,i'm wrong.


Allow me to translate: "I've made up a God to suit my own preferences and desires and nobody can tell me that I'm wrong."

Except God himself who said you must be born again to see the kingdom of God. He also said to not neglect meeting with other saints on the Lord's day as established in the early church and stated in the bible.

He said a lot of things that you won't believe. My prayer is that you repent and believe the actual gospel and are born-again so that you will see the kingdom instead of getting your just punishment in Hell.

Please repent of your idolatry before it's too late. God is a merciful savior, cry out to Him.
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Oct 30, 2019 08:12:39   #
jaymatt wrote:
Has anyone really studied the history of the KJV Bible--not what the version says, but the history of the writing of it. It is most interesting.


I have.
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Oct 30, 2019 02:41:08   #
bull drink water wrote:
questions I did or wanted to ask during catechism as a fifth grader.

1 did God create Adam in the image of modern man, or in a more prehistoric image?
2 how long did Adam walk the earth with God before he was given Eve?
3 how long did Adam and Eve live together before God put them in the garden of eden?
4 how many children did they have before and while they were in the garden of eden?
5 were they born with a created with a complex language, or did it take many years to develop?
6 how long were they in the garden before they were kicked out?
7 if with two perfect beings things got bad enough to warrant the flood, what made Him think He would do better with 6 people born under sin?

now for us raised as catholics.
1 how did the church decide she was a perpetual virgin when the angel told Josehp he could have sex with Mary after Jesus was born?
i'm sure i'm not the only one with these types of questions.
questions I did or wanted to ask during catechism... (show quote)


You and I both know that you really didn't wonder about these things, you just post this stuff because you hate God and this is a way you express it.

Been there, done that.

Thankfully God changed my heart so that I now love Him and His word instead of thumbing my nose at Him. I pray that He does the same for you before it's too late.
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Oct 30, 2019 02:38:31   #
Harry0 wrote:
*sigh*
Mary's MOTHER was the virgin, to be "pure" enough to birth Mary.
Mary had been already married, with children. before Jesus and Joseph.
The "modern" bible, and cult, is the result of centuries of bowdlerized translations, and sycophants playing "telephone" with each other. Look up the "Jefferson" and "Genesis" bibles, just a few hundred years ago.


Unfortunately, you don't know the first thing about the history and transmission of the bible except what you've picked from the internet. There is no such thing as the "telephone game" idea when translating from extant manuscripts to another language.

That in itself tells me that you are completely ignorant of the process and the history of the text.
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Oct 29, 2019 01:41:17   #
leicajah wrote:
Just curious. Who uses a totally manual film camera?


Me.

Oly Trip 35 is my favorite.

I do also use a Nikon FE2 when the Trip can't get 'er done.

I will shoot film exclusively until I can't develop or print the images in my darkroom or can't afford to do it then I will reluctantly go digital.
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