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Jun 27, 2018 23:44:56   #
Hello everyone I had to take a small break as the wife had surgery and everything went well and she is recovering slowly and without all the pain :)

This was a photo I had taken of her and one of our rescue puppies. I am somewhat dissapointed that I chopped the top of her head off but overall I think it still looks good for a unplanned photo. I also believe it was not the best time of the day as you can see the strong shadows and the bright sunlight. But again it just catches my eye.
A little history is that the terrier named "Peanut" we saved from a bad place as he had a hole on his chest where it looked like someone tried to put a lit cigarette out on him. We have nursed him back and with the other two rescued dogs which are much bigger than him.

Besides the mistakes I seem to see myself would anyone have any other suggestions? I am always looking to get better :)
canon 70D
f5 / 1/100s / ISO 100 / 55-250@70mm


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Jun 14, 2018 11:17:00   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Gator81 - glad to help on the technical stuff. This latest edit is much better composed as well. Good job.


thank you and I will be getting better :)
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Jun 14, 2018 11:04:00   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The poor colors / presentation of your JPEGs can be traced to not using sRGB when creating your JPEGs for posting. Using AdobeRGB or ProPhotoRGB is fine for editing images. However, you have to change to sRGB when creating files for sharing. A dump of the EXIF data of the couple from the initial post:

Color Mode : RGB
Color Noise Reduction : 25
Color Noise Reduction Detail : 50
Color Noise Reduction Smoothness: 50
Color Space : Uncalibrated
Color Space Data : RGB


This discussion provides a lot of detail, examples, and links to still more discussion: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-364870-1.html

As you develop a standard process for creating your JPEG images for posting, consider this additional discussion of how to resize the images specifically for online sharing, http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-512745-1.html
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you may see the new photo I just uploaded and I was able to change to SRGB and I lowered to 70% I will do some more testing on getting the sizes down better so I will be more on par for what I am uploading :) thank you so much for the assistance as it will only help me do better :)
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Jun 14, 2018 11:00:38   #
Pixeldawg wrote:
OK, and apologies if that came off wrong about simple. I like the background in the new shot, but would still crop vertical. Just above the bottom of the shorts and to the top of the bridge super structure and the width just outside the arms of the couple.


ok, I have be reworking this some and was able to get it like you suggested and I really like the shot now and wanted to see what you thought.


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Jun 14, 2018 04:51:40   #
thanks SeamusMac for your thoughts, I will let the wife know. I will get use to this forum one of these days :)
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Jun 14, 2018 04:50:32   #
Pixeldawg wrote:
Regarding the shot of the couple, I would turn the camera vertical, so that you show more of them and the bridge in the background. It is an interesting backdrop, and you should use it to your advantage. Here, it is cut off and when I look at it, I want to see more. The lighting is good and I like the pose as well. Regarding the 2nd shot, I like the repeating lines and their shape is pleasing to me as well. The shot is a bit busy though. When I teach basic photography to my students, I tell them to show ONE thought in the image. Keep it simple and if there's several "things", make several shots. I also tell them that if I can't look at a photo and tell you exactly what the photo is about in 2 seconds, there's generally too much in the frame. Simplify.
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I had done another photo that has more of the backdrop sadly I have a hard time showing photos with scars from the Army but to show that I had the vision you were speaking about I will show you the photo and that my wife keeps encouraging me not to worry about them. I did go with a higher f stop and I made a simple diffuser for the speedflash to help with some of the shadows.

canon 70d f11 / 1/250s / ISO 100 / 18-55 @20mm with assisted diffused flash

The second picture my wife had taken, we had been trying to catch the flag just right when there was a breeze. She just had the touch :) I also agree that there is a lot to look at in the one photo and to us it was one we couldn't just look at for a couple seconds, we looked at for awhile to take in all of the story. We also know that simple is good :)


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Jun 13, 2018 21:44:21   #
Hello again, well I have been trying some different things and keeping in mind what has been suggested to work on and I wanted to know if this would show that I have improved or that I need to keep working on a few things?
My wife also took a photo and asked me to post to see what you may think. The couple picture is me and the flag is hers.
I look forward to any comments :)
My photo camera settings:
f8 / 1/250s / ISO 100 / 55-250@100mm
Hers:
f9 / 1/250s / ISO 100 / 55-250@100mm

thank you.

P.S.
I have noticed that the photos a lot of times seem to be darker, is there a specific setting I should save the photos in that would show better when I upload them? I usually use ProPhoto for my settings and save jpg with largest and highest settings after editing the raw images in photoshop.


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Jun 11, 2018 22:23:54   #
I am far from the quality of information I have read others have given, and someone may of already said this as I didn't read all the responses :/
Have you considered renting the lens? If you are doing this as a business for testing you might consider renting a lens to test and you will get first hand feel of how it will work with what you want to do and it could still be considered a tax write off. I wouldnt want to see you spend all you budget this way but it could also save you in the long run. I have seen and read where alot of people have done this so they wont go out and spend alot on a lens that they seem to never use.
this way if you find the lens you want you can get it for yourself and will know that it will be what you want.

again sorry for the newb suggestion but wanted to pass on my thought :)
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Jun 11, 2018 16:24:54   #
artBob wrote:
Unfortunately, Photoshop does not preserve the history when it is saved, so my working on it and sending it would not help. Fortunately, there are usually several paths to correction, so If I give you general directions, you can play around. That's the best way to learn, anyway.

Here is what I did. If you like it, use the Quick Selection tool to select you two, then Select and Mask to get a more accurate selection. All tools have tutorials if you google them. And/or, send me a private message (can attach photo) here if you have problems. After you get the selection, I will walk you through various steps.
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Well I have done a couple edits and without giving to much info I would be curious which one you like better and why :) the reason I ask why is I was experimenting with some different editing steps I am not use to and really curious if I am on the right track or if there is something I am missing. If I have done bad please let me know as it helps me learn.
Again downloading them may look better as they still look dark on the preview :/


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Jun 10, 2018 20:50:33   #
artBob wrote:
You have enough info in your photo to fix it without reshooting, if you do post processing in Photoshop (or, probably, some other program) First I cropped and straightened, to emphasize what's important. Then, I selected you and your wife, adjusted color, contrast, and tones, lightened some of the darks around the eyes. I then switched the mask to the background, and toned down the saturation overall, adding a bit of saturation back into the river and some of the brighter leaves. I'd be glad to post this, or to PM it to you.
It's a fine shot of a good moment, and deserves to be fixed and shown.
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Hmm, I have not really went into full edit of the photo yet but your ideas have peaked my interest. I had considered doing a mask and creating a curves adjustment layer for us and then remove the dead looking branch from behind her head and what looks like a branch kinda at the top center of the bush behind my shoulder. I had not thought about lowering the saturation of the background and then bringing up some of the leaves, my first thought was to maybe use a gaussian blur so we would stand out more. Then maybe create it as a smart object and desaturate and run a hi pass filter and duplicate it a few times to increase the sharpness after adding the color back. I still have issues with editing as sometimes I overkill the work.

Yes I would be interested in what you would edit but to help would you want the raw picture as it would seem you have a lot of experience with photoshop and having the raw photo would make your work easier? and I could get the psd when your finished so I could see the steps you did and learn even more :) sorry I am getting excited and well a little greedy as I am learning more :) let me know and I will set something up so you can get it from me :)
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Jun 10, 2018 18:30:59   #
Thank you all for the welcomes :) I have been posting a few photo's and I have received some really great information and I will be putting it to use in future pictures.
I hope to one day be a contributor and help to others learning :)
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Jun 10, 2018 18:26:17   #
thank you all for the suggestions, I will work on these suggestions, I have a couple of weeks until the wifes surgery and I will be trying to take more photo's. I am glad you see that I am trying to do this right with the shot and less with editing. I could fix a lot of that with Photoshop but to understand what to work on to with shooting the picture it will make it better :) That is why I like this group as I am learning so much. some of the photo's could be better if I had some better lens's and one day I will :)
I look at a lot of the wonderful photos that have been shared and it encourages me to do better, it helps me to look at things I wouldn't usually look at and to enjoy the beauty of what is around me.
One day you will say "wow" look at his photo's :) and it will be because of all the help you all have given me:)
thank you
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Jun 9, 2018 00:02:55   #
sxrich wrote:
I think you had some goals in your mind and maybe you achieved them to a large degree. We all have different approaches and constructive criticism isn't always well received and sometimes subjective, not always. Couple things I wondered about - you seemed to have interest in the background ie river etc and wanted that part of the picture, you were concerned about white balance and then mentioned rule of thirds for composition. I felt that a picture of you two is conflicted by emphasis on the background - just my opinion and you were shooting at f10. I might try a little more "blur" to the background although you are using an 18-55 lens. The idea of fill flash comes to mind in order to avoid raccoon eyes and brighten up the faces. Just note that you will have sync speed to deal with but in the shade, not a major problem as a rule. I might try shooting this at 55mm, moving your tripod accordingly. So, just my two cents since you asked. I've shot in similar situations and i think you did a smart thing by moving into the shade. Here is a pic I shot years ago with similar challenges with fill flash. Maybe not the best pic. also, big difference in the image that you was the download. brightness and color temp.
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thank you so much for the input, I think we shot a f10 to try and focus the background some more as the wife likes the river, I agree shooting at 4.5 would of given more focus to us and not the background. I had a flash with me and didn't thing about it since I had shot at a f10, at the lower one I don't know if I would of even needed the flash, but I will work on that more. It was kind of a bad time to take photos as it was the hottest part of the day and with my issues we cannot walk all that far. One time we will try to take a lunch and go early and not feel kinda rushed from the heat... we had taken a lot more photos of us cutting up and goofing off but she said I don't need to ask about those :).
I guess you can say my goal is to always improve, and the info I get just excites me to strive to do better. Your picture is wonderful and I hope that the next photo I post will show more of what I have learned :)

thanks you all
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Jun 8, 2018 21:00:30   #
Here I go again, I did some small edits here, where in raw I checked "enable profile corrections" and used the grey in my hair for a white balance. Under the basic settings of raw I selected auto to see what the results would be and then did a few small tweaks with the settings including a little bit of the dehaze option.
I thought about using the adjustment brush to brighten up the face some more but to me it just seemed more natural as there was some shade from the tree.
I guess If I wanted to tweak the photo more I could remove the dead branch from right behind her head and the power towers in the background with the lines and then the other black stick behind my shoulder. I didnt use a rule of thirds but it really looked good and still feel like I may be missing something. I would be greatfull for any suggestions or ideas anyone may have.

canon 70D
f10 / 1/250 / ISO 100 / 18-55@30mm
this was not the best time for pictures as it was around 2pm, clear and sunny skys. We had a chance to try and go walking by the river again and snapped a few photos using a tripod and my phone app. I do notice that when I preview the photo here it looks darker then what it does on my monitor, just wanted to pass that on :)


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Jun 7, 2018 10:20:15   #
Besperus wrote:
Depending upon the location the photo was made, the two of you are the most important subject here, scars and and all. The vertical orientation I’ve seen here are quite good. Great couple! All the other manipulations are up to your personal taste and improving on the care and love displayed here is tough to improve on...


The pictures where done near the falls of the ohio (southern Indiana) We tried taking pictures at different area's using the tripod and my phone app to take the snapshot. We couldn't walk very far as it gets hard for me to get around.
Again I dont mean to give so much history about us, I just want to do better for my soulmate :)

than you all for the help, suggestions, you will see more :)
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