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Jul 3, 2017 15:08:13   #
All these responses as to why the price for gas increased are irrelevant. Ultimately, the oil companies are responsible for the price of their product based on market forces controlling the distribution of their product upon their financial and corporate requirements. The fact is, the price went up in parts of California in June 2017 -- a simple answer to another poster's simple question. If you have a problem with the question about gas pricing and how it relates to Adobe pricing Photoshop CC, then have at it. That's another subject that is relevant to this thread.
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Jul 3, 2017 12:24:01   #
Mary Kate wrote:
How much do the taxes add to the price?? I am a retired CPA and CFP. I also have a knowledge of costs.Crude prices are down


Of course, taxes add to the price -- everybody knows that. I also mentioned taxes and regulations in a following post. But that has no relevance to the question that was posited, which was "When is the last time the oil companies [not the state] jacked up the price?" And yes, crude prices are down, but during mid-June the price in California where I was went up 30+ cents, jumping up a few cents every few days for a while and the state of California did not pass a new gas tax. It was an example answering the question as to when the price went up. I don't know where the price was increased, but if the state was not responsible, I figured that somewhere in the supply chain the price was increased.
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Jul 3, 2017 04:28:29   #
whitewolfowner wrote:
No, but you proved my point that you argued about previously. It's obvious that you are confused. Go back and read your reply to my post above; it should come together for you.


Are you saying in your post that my remarks make the point you made in your post made July 3 at 03:37:50? And we are in agreement? If not, what do we disagree about? Still not sure.
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Jul 3, 2017 03:57:54   #
whitewolfowner wrote:
Charging a monthly fee: how is that different from, "However, we are not like the greedy Hollywood crowd and music industry where everyone gets royalties for each use or viewing of their product."

And then you prove my point with your next statement: "We get a fixed salary." This would be equivalent to buying the software on a one time fee. Thanks for proving me correct!


I don't understand your post. My post was not a reply to any of yours. I'm confused.
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Jul 3, 2017 02:47:15   #
moonhawk wrote:
The beauty of the free market is you don't have to buy it if it doesn't suit your needs.

As for the issue with no internet, I'm pretty sure it would have worked for you in Africa if you had downloaded it previously, even if you had missed a payment. Once it's on your computer, you can just keep using it, you just won't get updates if your payments are behind. Most folks just have an automatic deduction from their credit card. It's quite painless, really.

But again, it's your call.
The beauty of the free market is you don't have to... (show quote)


I'm not disputing the beauty of the free market -- I'm all for it. I am suggesting reasons why subscription software is not my preference. However, if Adobe wanted to have a more beautiful free market, why not give the consumer a choice -- offer both subscription and outright purchase?

I am not denying that Photoshop CC resides on your PC, but that seems to be a truly goofy way to do a subscription (the way you describe it). What stops someone from subscribing one month for $10 and then dropping the subscription. Then keep using the product -- who cares about the updates. Then a year later, subscribe again and get some updates. Drop the subscription the next month. I'm sure many people could go without the updates every time one comes up. Just get them occasionally every year or so. If that is the way it works, then sign me up!! Hooray!! Photoshop CC for only $10.
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Jul 3, 2017 02:16:17   #
moonhawk wrote:
A lot of the reason the price of gas goes up in California is all the regulations and requirements (not to mention taxes) the Govt imposes on the industry. It seems every local jurisdiction has its own emission standards, that require the oil companies to formulate a special blend of gasoline just for them. With limited number of refineries available, and California not wanting any new ones "in my backyard", it becomes very difficult for the companies to meet demand, especially during peak driving season. Here in NM, and in other parts of the country not as radical as CA, the price has been dropping steadily.

BTW, CC does not reside on the cloud, nor do your photographs, unless you choose to put them there. The only time you even need to be connected to the internet is for updates.
A lot of the reason the price of gas goes up in Ca... (show quote)


The reasons you give for gas prices in California are the reasons why the gas price in California and Nevada is higher than many other states, not why it goes up and down throughout the month. However, California does not change the regulations or the taxes every few days to make the price of gas to go up a few cents on Monday and then some more on Thursday, and then Sunday, etc. And certainly, once California increases the tax or regulations, they don't turn around and lower them. The premise of the poster who brought up the subject was that of the oil companies increasing the price.

If CC is not on the cloud, it still does not address the problem of erratic usage by non-professional photo enthusiasts. Also, in order for the program to be activated monthly, even if it resides on your PC, it still needs the internet to get the activation. What happens if you are somewhere and you want to use it and you don't have internet access (like when I was recently in Africa)?
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Jul 3, 2017 00:59:56   #
Mary Kate wrote:
I guess you don't follow the market. When was the last time the oil companies "jacked" up the price??


I guess you haven't been to California lately. In the month of June alone, the price went up 30+ cents from the 1st of June. (Yeah, that's only a little more than a 10% hike, but that's a lot more than inflation and the increases of salaries.) And in the past week it has gone down again. However, your question was when was the last time the price went up. Less than a month ago for Cali.

I remember when gas was 27 cents a gallon.

As far as the subscription goes: Not all of us are professional photographers. My use of Photoshop is erratic. Sometimes I'll use it several days in a month and then go 4 to 6 months before I use it again. It all depends on my busy schedule. Also, I do not want to depend on software on the cloud. I'm away from home more than half a year (so far this year, I have been in my home a total of 4 weeks). Wifi speed varies greatly when relying upon hotels and hot spots for internet speed. I want to be in charge of my speed, so I will determine my software performance by the computer I purchase.

The largest chunk of non-gaming/non-entertainment software profits come from business and government. Microsoft, Adobe, and others are finding that the subscription program is a boon to profits. Who cares about the individual consumer? The profit from them is insignificant in comparison.

By the way, I am a software engineer, so I am keenly aware of the economics and costs of development. However, we are not like the greedy Hollywood crowd and music industry where everyone gets royalties for each use or viewing of their product. We get a fixed salary.
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Jun 1, 2017 18:32:10   #
FiddleMaker wrote:
Gene, I have no problem at all getting my images from the camera to the computer. I use the dedicated cable that came with my Nikons and transfer the images to my photo folders. In fact, I have no problem processing the images in Lightroom and exporting the images as JPGs into dedicated desktop folders.
My problem is attempting to view them later on. The images won't open or they freeze up and I get all these error messages. But not all the time. 50% of the time I have no problem. I am running Windows 10 and never had a problem with Windows 7 or 8 or XP for that matter. But all the problems I have are not just specific to photo viewing. I can experience these problems just viewing something from the Staples website. So I think it is an operating system problem and has nothing to do with photography.
Ironically, I paid slightly more for this 27-inch Dell than I did with my 27-inch iMac. But I have no complaints on how the images look on this Dell. They look as good as they did on the old iMac.
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A-ha. More information received. Your problem is not Microsoft or Windows. Your problem is Dell.
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Apr 15, 2017 19:44:55   #
You really need more than 1 1/2 days for Barcelona. It is a fabulous city and one of my favorite cities in Europe. You won't have time, but another great place to visit is the monastery at Montserrat. The train ride from city center to the monastery is also a beautiful ride.

Two other nice places for a photo buff are the Gaudi Park and Mt. Tibidabo (go there via the funicular).
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Apr 15, 2017 19:28:50   #
LSS wrote:
go to the internet and read every thing you see reference pick pockets and how to avoid them. You will never beat them just do those things to make some one else an easier mark. Especially read the articles about how thieves removing lenses from cameras.


I second this recommendation. Also, protect that camera with your life. Do not take the neck strap off your neck and set the camera down on a table or anywhere. There are thieves who work in tandem to distract you while another grabs and runs with your camera. Keep your arm resting on the camera while it's on your neck.

I had my Nikon D3s stolen in Barcelona. I was lucky because the police recovered it. If anything like this happens to you, be sure to go to the main police station to file a report. The police are aware of the theft problem and have many helpful resources to attempt a retrieval. Unfortunately, for the rest of my vacation, I did not have my good camera for capturing great photo opportunities.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:09:29   #
burkphoto wrote:
JPEGs are not meant as "digital negatives" that must be post-processed. They are meant for immediate use. As such, the in-camera process must be set up correctly for the way you want to record the scene. If you blow the white balance, you can't really fix it, any more than you can repair blown out highlights or plugged up shadows.

Next time, save raw images. Raw files retain the EXIF data of JPEG files, which camera MANUFACTURER provided post-processing software can reference, but the FULL, UNPROCESSED, digitized data from the sensor is there, so you can get ANY white balance you want, whether "correct" or special effect.

JPEG files have to be created PERFECTLY in the camera if they are to look their best. JPEG files can be considered quite similar to color slides. Everything about the look of a JPEG should be controlled with exposure, white balance, and the menu settings in the camera (Hue, Saturation, Contrast, Sharpness, Picture Style, etc.). Ideally, you do PRE-processing, not POST-processing.

If you always include a gray patch reference in one frame of each sequence recorded in a particular lighting situation, you can do "click balance" in your post-processing software, and apply that white balance to all other images recorded in the same light.

When I record JPEGs, I try to use a "custom white balance" — Nikon calls it a "preset white balance". I carry an ExpoDisc, a Delta-1 Gray Card, and a One Shot Digital Calibration Target. Each has different advantages, but can be used for getting the white balance right in a JPEG. Each may also be used as a "click reference" for raw file processing. The ultimate white balance reference, if you're going for perfect color match, is the ColorChecker PassPort. It creates a profile for your camera and the lighting you are using.

I learned a long time ago that when the light is changing, or I'm moving to location after location where the light is different, I should probably save raw images, even if I'm trying my best to get perfect JPEGs.

I used thousands of rolls of slide film back in the 1980s. So I'm used to nailing exposure and color balance at the camera as a discipline. Back then, we used gray cards and in-camera meters, plus incident light meters and color temperature meters. We always had a gel filter holder and a pack of Wratten filter gels ready for color correcting the light source to the film. Slide film has no real latitude, and you cannot change anything once it is exposed (assuming normal processing). The film that ran through your camera is what is projected or scanned, later.

So handling JPEG capture is just an easier extension of that color transparency workflow. I think of a JPEG as something I have to "bake" precisely with camera settings. I have NO INTENTION of ever editing a JPEG. That discipline, ironically, gives me just enough latitude to edit one when it needs a slight tweak. The closer I get to the desired result, the more latitude I have to adjust it. The farther I get from the desired result, the LESS latitude there is for adjustment.

THAT brings me back to raw. When you save a raw file, it contains all the unprocessed but digitized data that is available. Essentially, it has latitude similar to color negative film. You can develop it any way you choose, with far more control. If you use the manufacturer's software, you can probably start with the EXIF data recorded for the JPEG preview in the file, and then dial in any of the camera menu presets they present in the software. So if you blow the white balance setting, it's no big deal. Using a perfectly calibrated monitor, you can dial in whatever white balance you want. And because you have ALL the recorded data to play with, you can fine-tune the image to look better than an out-of-camera JPEG would look. You can change hue, color tone, contrast, brightness, exposure, sharpness, saturation, white balance... So if you are in a situation that is changing rapidly, you can hedge your exposure bets by saving raw files.
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That is some very much appreciated, great information. I'm just a hobbyist and do not know a lot of the useful technical things like I wish I did. My passion is landscape photography -- off the beaten path. Hence my love of hiking.

My real camera is a Nikon D4s and I do capture both RAW and JPG with that camera. I use my D60 as kind of a point and shoot. I am out in California for work for a couple months, so I was lugging a lot of luggage on the plane. I had my ski equipment to head up to Tahoe on my days off. So, I opted for the much smaller and lighter load of the D60 for my trip, since the purpose of the trip was not for photography.
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Apr 4, 2017 06:21:08   #
lamiaceae wrote:
I take it you were shooting JPGs and not in RAW, otherwise you would not even be asking for help. For Raw files it is a one click fix with Adobe Camera Raw (Photoshop or Lightroom).


Yep.
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Apr 3, 2017 07:03:21   #
Thanks for the solution. It worked great.
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Apr 3, 2017 02:28:54   #
I was on a hike taking photos yesterday. I was using my Nikon D60. I changed the White Balance to "Shade" when I was shooting a shady area. When I got back to the sunny area, I forgot to change back to the "Auto" white balance. I ended up shooting about 10 photos that now are too yellowish. Is there an easier way to fix the color of my photos than it is with "Image --> Adjustments --> Curves" in Photoshop? Can it be done in the camera or will I need to do it in Photoshop?

If "Curves" is my option to fix the white balance, can I get some suggestions on what adjustments to make to back out the change that "Shady" white balance made?

Do I need to post one of the photos for suggestions to fix the white balance?

Additional info:
I am away from home and my laptop has Photoshop CS5. I would like help for this version. However, I do have a newer version at home, CC 2015. If there is something that makes it easier with the newer version, I would appreciate the suggestions.


Thanks for any help.
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Feb 13, 2017 01:21:51   #
Holy cow. Six pages of stories already!! Now I don't feel so stupid.

On a Spain/Portugal tour I was sitting on a grassy hill overlooking the beach to the Med in Barcelona having lunch with my cousins and some friends. I reached to my side to grab my camera (Nikon D3s, Nikkor 24-120mm zoom) to take a picture of our group, and it wasn't there. Yikes!!! We figured that a woman who was trying to sell us something was working with someone else, and she distracted us while her accomplice stole my camera. I went to the police and filed a report. About a month after returning home I received an email from the Barcelona police that they had recovered my camera. You can imagine how happy I was.

On tours, I try to always download my photos to my laptop each night. So, potentially, I only lost the photos from that day. Lucky me, the flash card was still in the camera with all my photos.

Also, I keep a spare point & shoot with me for those "just in case" situations. The photos weren't as great as if I had my D3s, but it helped to avoid a total loss. I started doing this because one time parking my car at the airport, I forgot to take my camera with me as I left to go to the terminal. The P&S is always in my backpack with my laptop.

Story #2: Hiking in the Sierra of California in June after the 2011 super snowy winter, it was getting late in the afternoon. The snow up top was deep and every once in a while I would drop down into crevice like holes. My Nikon D60 was in my camera bag strapped around my neck, but I did not clip the top closed (just let it flop loose for easy access). Evidently, the camera fell out when I dropped down in one of the holes. Several yards of hiking later, I went to grab my camera for a photo, and it was gone. Trying to retrace my tracks, it became too late and darkness required me to get back to the car. The next day I went back to the trail to look for the camera. As I was hiking up, some hikers were already coming down. I asked them if they saw a camera. You guessed it, they had seen it and picked it up. I was happily reunited with my camera. And it still worked perfectly even having spent the night in the snow.
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