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May 11, 2020 14:20:51   #
Overthehill1 wrote:
Most of my friends are smart enough to recognize a con man when they see one. The rest, I talk about baseball, coins, food or photography.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/heres-why-people-stick-with-trump-and-fox-news-even-when-their-lies-k**l/
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May 11, 2020 14:19:52   #
billb800si wrote:
This is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard....

https://www.salon.com/2020/05/09/trumps-desperate-hours-he-was-contemptuous-of-the-v***s--now-it-has-him-trapped/
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May 11, 2020 04:18:09   #
mflowe wrote:
Dispute what he said in his post.


The fact that you can't answer a simple yes or no question without some nonsensical caveat tells me we're dealing with a "true believer"---and no amount of reality will change that. Kinda like the Evangelicals who "believe" that some draft dodging, pussy grabbing, bleach injecting, pathological liar is their "chosen one". I know your type. You have , I repeat HAVE to get the last word in because it's the only way you can convince yourself you're right. This is your final chance to prove me wrong.
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May 10, 2020 18:20:24   #
Ched49 wrote:
Trump bashers are constantly in denial, record low unemployment, record low citizens on government assistance, record low unemployment for b****s & hispanics, stock market soaring. According to the never Trumpers, that was all a mirage, it never happened. Then the p******c came along and of coarse... it was Trumps fault. All the bashers wait till summer and everything gets back to normal again and the never Trumpers can get back in denial.


https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/heres-why-people-stick-with-trump-and-fox-news-even-when-their-lies-k**l/
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May 10, 2020 16:03:27   #
BBurns wrote:
This Historical perspective is not a cure-all, but it does offer some real insight & wisdom!
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It’s a mess out there now.
It’s hard to discern between what’s a real threat and what is just simple panic and hysteria.

For a small amount of perspective at this moment, imagine you were born in 1900.
On your 14th birthday, World War I starts, and ends on your 18th birthday.
22 million people perish in that war.
Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until your 20th birthday.
50 million people die from it in those two years. Yes, 50 million.

On your 29th birthday, the Great Depression begins.
Unemployment hits 25%, the World GDP drops 27%.
That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy.

When you turn 39, World War II starts.
You aren’t even over the hill yet. And don’t try to catch your breath.

On your 41st birthday, the United States is fully pulled into WWII.

Between your 39th and 45th birthday, 75 million people perish in the war.
Smallpox was epidemic until you were in your 40’s, as it killed 300 million people during your lifetime.

At 50, the Korean War starts. 5 million perish.

From your birth, until you are 55 you dealt with the fear of Polio epidemics each summer.
You experience friends and family contracting polio and being paralyzed and/or die.

At 55 the Vietnam War begins and doesn’t end for 20 years.
4 million people perish in that conflict.

During the Cold War, you lived each day with the fear of nuclear annihilation.

On your 62nd birthday you have the Cuban Missile Crisis, a tipping point in the Cold War.
Life on our planet, as we know it, almost ended.

When you turn 75, the Vietnam War finally ends.
Think of everyone on the planet born in 1900. How did they endure all of that?

When you were a kid in 1985, you didn’t think your 85 year old grandparent understood how hard school was.
And how mean that kid in your class was. Yet they survived through everything listed above.

Perspective is an amazing art. Refined and enlightening as time goes on.
Let’s try and keep things in perspective.

Your parents and/or grandparents were called to endure all of the above.

Before you start complaining too loudly remember, all that is asked of you is to,

‘Stay home and sit on your couch’.
This Historical perspective is not a cure-all, but... (show quote)


https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2020/04/in-my-parents-time-there-was-tangible-sacrifice-to-help-others-where-are-the-victory-gardens-and-ration-coupons-now-steve-traina.html
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May 10, 2020 14:00:09   #
mflowe wrote:
I am going to do something you guys never do. Man-up and apologize for anything I said that was derogatory to you. I am the i***t. I self f**gellate myself forever for my stupidity. I misread the question. Yes, someone who believes someone who lies 18,000 times is a fool if, and I repeat if he knows they are lies. Take for instance the statement when Trump says " the v***s will go away". Is that a lie or just a wrong belief on his part? When Cuomo, DeBlasio, Pelosi, F***i, NYT, etc. all said the v***s was nothing to worry about, were they lying or just wrong in their belief? I did my mea culpa, now answer some of my questions.
I am going to do something you guys never do. Man-... (show quote)


I admire that. However, going back, not really sure what questions were asked. You really seem hung up on one issue--collusion. I'm living in the present. ENJOY!
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May 10, 2020 12:26:56   #
mflowe wrote:
I'm sorry, I actually thought I was conversing with someone who understood logic. Again in plain English, someone who lies is a liar, not necessarily a fool. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Read the definition of liar and fool in the dictionary. I still notice you won't or more likely can't answer my questions.


You're the one unable to understand what you're reading. Do you think someone who BELIEVES someone who has told 18,000 lies is a fool? Yes or no? Try one more time.
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May 10, 2020 12:06:15   #
mflowe wrote:
I thought I did answer in plain English, that a fifth grader could understand. I consider someone who lies 18,000 times a liar, not necessarily a fool. I notice I answer all your questions, but you answer none of mine.


Reread the question: Yes or no.
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May 10, 2020 11:52:40   #
mflowe wrote:
I would consider someone who lies 18,000 times a liar, not necessarily a fool. But I also recognize the difference between a wrong opinion, hyperbole, and and outright lie. Is telling someone "if you like your doctor and like your healthcare, you can keep them a lie? I answered your question, now answer mine about evidence.


The question was do you consider someone who BELIEVES a documented liar is a fool. Yes or no? It's a simple question, which you didn't answer.
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May 10, 2020 11:34:41   #
mflowe wrote:
Just like a lib. To accuse others of what you're doing. I'm not deflecting. I asked you to show me evidence and you can't.


Do you consider someone who believes someone who has told over 18,000 lies to be a fool? Yes or no?
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May 10, 2020 11:29:35   #
mflowe wrote:
Yeah. NYT, CNN, MSNBC, WP, AP. I really trust those polls. Fox really lives inside you guy's heads, doesn't it? SMFH. What does that have to do with showing me evidence. Can't you stay on issue instead of deflecting.


Didn't ask what you trust. Care to address fox viewer ignorance?
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May 10, 2020 11:27:17   #
mflowe wrote:
Can you converse like and adult and not like a six year old. Tweety pie? Grow up. Dispute what I posted. And tell me, what was Trump supposed to do that he didn't? Declare martial law. Then all you people would be claiming he was a dictator and tyrant. You do realize under our constitution, governors are first responders, not he federal government.



Care to address the premise instead of deflecting and trying to change the subject?
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May 10, 2020 11:20:32   #
mflowe wrote:
Are you really not that smart or what? None of those charges had anything to do with so called collusion. Show me one. Again you're conflating separate issues.


Care to discuss any of the polls, surveys, and studies that prove the ignorance of fox viewers?
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May 10, 2020 11:09:30   #
mflowe wrote:
We can all play that game.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/timeline-the-trump-administrations-decisive-actions-to-combat-the-c****av***s/


When thousands have died needlessly because of tweety pie's arrogance, ignorance, greed and ineptitude, DO you still consider this some kind of game? There are MANY timelines that prove what a buffoon he is. The one from the blackhouse(18,000 documented lies in less than 1,000 days ) doesn't hold a whole lot of water, sorry to say. I mean, what kind of fool would believe ANYTHING someone with a history like that says? Have a feeling we're about to find out.
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May 10, 2020 06:49:43   #
bwana wrote:
A whole lot of t***h in this article! Too bad people have such short memories...

bwa


Never forget!


https://thebulwark.com/the-ten-weeks-that-lost-the-war/
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