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Dec 22, 2017 23:18:44   #
treadwl wrote:
I've thrown away hundreds of "attempts" to catch the very shy and fast little bird. Finally, my efforts were rewards. Shot with a Nikon D810, 200-400mm lens with tc2.0 to get as much reach as possible. Camera on tripod with gimbal head. If you even point a camera at these guys they are gone laughing at you.This time I got lucky. Composition could be better-----but I got him!!

Please use the download.

Thanks for looking. This is my Christmas gift to me!!


Great job!

Still on my list. Those suckers outdo me every time.
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Dec 22, 2017 23:08:49   #
GalaxyCat wrote:
Thanks for this information. I'm going to try Manual.


It might be a good learning exercise.

You’ll get over it as you learn how to use the power of your DSLR. You can unhook the horse from your Lexus.
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Dec 22, 2017 12:57:06   #
DaveO wrote:
I was trying to add the topic the OP was addressing...


It is amusing sometimes to go back to the OPs original post and see how far afield the discussion has gone.

I think her first question on availability and second question about using just the 850 vs. keeping the 500 were both answered.

Guess we can assume the answer to her last question due to the non-replies: so far no issues reported with the 850. But given there are only 14,000 out there so far and for a relatively short time it ay not be time to celebrate yet. The D600 oil problem took a while to surface.
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Dec 22, 2017 08:56:12   #
Jim Bob wrote:
Agreed. The real question would be whether there is a noticeable image quality difference. It's not all about the minimalist pixel difference but also about pixel density and how the cameras process the images. It would be interesting to see some actual tests including photos on this issue.


Yes. The pixel density of the D850 and D500 is about the same.

There might be a difference in the dynamic range/high ISO performance of the sensors.
There might also be a difference in the processing of the sensor data. Likely the newer camera (D850) is better if there is a difference. This comparison asserts the D850 has a little better dynamic range and much better high ISO performance: http://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D500-vs-Nikon-D850
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Dec 21, 2017 23:08:19   #
MT Shooter wrote:
You might post them for sale in the classifieds section here.


I’ve sold a number of cameras and lenses here quickly. No commission like ebay and generally knoweldgable buyers compared to Craigslist. And a much wider interested audiance than Craigslist, it seems. Just sold two D5300s in a day.
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Dec 21, 2017 23:01:34   #
Kozan wrote:
I would not sell the D500. You may want that extra reach of the 1.5 x crop sensor. I have the D500 and do sports photography. The Tokina 18-400mm lens is awesome.
I guess we could put the D850 in crop mode.

I ordered the D850 Oct 15th and it is due to arrive tomorrow (12-22-17).

Good luck with whatever decision you make.

Kozan


The point made above is that there is no “extra reach” with a D500. The DX area of the D850 has about the same MP as the D500. Whether you choose the DX image area or not.
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Dec 21, 2017 22:58:44   #
Steve Perry wrote:
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system and some of these are works in progress as I don't have everything fully calibrated yet (waiting for my Eizo to come in today :). However, I think they show the D850 is more than capable of bird photography. The first three are earlier shots taken without the grip at 7FPS, the rest are more recent @ 9FPS (and I have hundreds more just like them that I need to process - I haven't even sorted / looked at the entire trip yet, these are just quick grabs that caught my eye). IMO, the D850 is the ultimate wildlife camera. It's not 100% perfect and there are times something like a D5 would be better, but for most shots the D850 is hard to beat.

Notes - the third photo is a sanderling, those little birds you find along the beach. If you've ever seen them, you know how fast they fly and how close you need to be to get enough of them in the frame for a photo - the D850 got the job done and at only 7FPS.

Also, note the reddish egret with the fish - sometimes they twist the fish around with their head to sort of "beat" it into submission and getting the egret looking at the camera is where 9FPS helps. Also, I was able to catch this egret and others as they flipped the fish in the air. This is something that you can do on rare occasion with a non-action oriented camera, but I was able to capture quite a few nice flips with the 9FPS of the D850. The truth is, IMO there's not a single shot below that would have been "better" with any other camera. Plus, on most of these I was closer than the DX area so I have between 25 ~46 MP files, depending on the photo. Most are over 30MP after any cropping.

PS - I also just did an article about how I got the two tern shots (actually. there are four total - two more at the site) that you may find of interest too: https://backcountrygallery.com/taking-terns/
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system an... (show quote)


Well, I never ask after a great meal, “What pots did you use?”

Marvelous work!
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Dec 21, 2017 22:47:16   #
I’m going to be patient on this and wait for the refurbs and any early production problems to get identified and corrected. At least a year from now, I suspect.

But I didn’t realize the backlog problem till I saw the “out of stock” notices on dpreview.
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Dec 19, 2017 18:32:00   #
RonM12 wrote:
Really? P mode is still a point and shoot, unless the operator decides to override The shutter speed or aperture.
Sorry no confusion on my part.


No, it really isn’t. It appears to me to continue to confirm your confusion...including not getting that you are confused.

P mode uses your settings such as metering mode and ISO, and includes using the thumbwheel to get the preferred combination of shutter speed and f-stop. It is the same as A and S mode, with the advantage of offering an initial guess.

Auto mode is closer to the point and shoot counterpart. Although most point and shoot cameras are not nearly as sophisticated as DSLR Auto algorithms.
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Dec 19, 2017 18:25:44   #
ralphfr wrote:
No. I fully understand it. In the hands of someone who has no clue they are exactly the same.


I can agree with that.
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Dec 19, 2017 10:18:12   #
ralphfr wrote:
No disrespect here but I don't think Ron was confusing anything. Program mode in my experience is superior to Auto mode. He obviously prefers P mode also. It's still just point and shoot either way.


None taken or given but apparantly you too do not understand P mode. With it you can do all the same functions as with A or S mode and you can rotate the thumbwheel across the range of exposure solutions that safisfy the meter.

Auto does everything for you. It is what most mean by point and shoot.

P mode is more sophisticated than A or S mode in that it offers an initial solution, based on your other settings such as metering mode and ISO, using an algorythym based on thousands of images.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:14:43   #
RonM12 wrote:
I think of the P mode as the mode I’d select if I handed my camera to someone with no understanding of how to operate it. Like the vacation picture you ask someone to take your picture for you. Seriously, it’s not difficult to use manual mode or at least aperture mode


Sorry but another person confusing P mode with Auto.

I wonder why that so hard to understand? Maybe that is why they better stick to M mode?
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Dec 19, 2017 01:10:56   #
Chris T wrote:
C8, IDguy?


It is an 8 inch Celestron telescope. I have the T adapter for Nikon for it. I could use it with my D800 but it is much easier to use with a D5xxx because of the articulated screen. I had used it with my first DSLR, a D5100. Might need to try it this summer with the D5600 I plan to get next week. The touch screen will make it even easier to use.

You can use it in the daytime but your image is upside down.
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Dec 19, 2017 00:37:52   #
dcampbell52 wrote:
In addition to the Canon mentioned by others, Nikon has a 10,000mm lens that fits FF and DX but also will fit the Nikon1 with an adapter. Also, MANY telescopes have camera adapters to attach them to many of the major brands. Nikon and Canon adapters are fairly generally available to attach the telescope as a lens rather than connecting a camera lens to the telescope. You could probably search Nikon, Canon or other camera mfg. websites and / or Adorama, B&H and other major camera store sites.
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Yes. My C8 is 2000mm.
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Dec 18, 2017 22:56:56   #
GLKTN wrote:
Actually the B+W, Suggested above, is circular. Rectangular is an option.


True they do have some. But not all: https://www.adorama.com/bw46gndmn701.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjoys_5aV2AIVAtVkCh1kMgRSEAQYCSABEgLkcfD_BwE
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