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Nov 23, 2018 12:05:42   #
Coca-Cola raised their prices outrageously this year, citing the tariffs on aluminum as the reason. However, the truth is that the increase in aluminum added about 3 cents per can, far less than their price increase. As pointed out by 2Dragons above, the first time oil prices spiked under Carter, all the merchandisers raced to increase prices, but never lowered them when oil prices dropped. That unfounded panic was the cause of double-digit inflation, all blamed on Carter, unfairly I believe. That's the price of being President though.
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Nov 23, 2018 11:56:47   #
I do see one of the problems teaching a required class. The teachers are saddled with kids who don't want to be there, so the lessons slow down. The students who are there to actually learn end up bored and frustrated by the slow pace. Physics was one of most enjoyable high school classes, because everyone who signed up for it really wanted to learn the stuff. Sadly, even though my school was a large one, I couldn't take an English Literature class because there wasn't enough student interest in that subject. My counselor was also shocked when she found that out.
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Nov 23, 2018 07:58:54   #
My big frustration with how history is taught was in my high school days in the 70's. The school year would always end before the class got through the whole book, right around the beginning of World War I. Same thing happened at 2 different schools for me. Had to educate myself about all of the modern history. Just a couple of years ago, I read the results of a survey of high school seniors about history. The majority thought that Germany and Italy fought on our side, and that Russia was the big enemy who started the war. Very sad.
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Nov 23, 2018 07:49:40   #
Most clever marketing scam was years ago when they started pricing carpet and other floor coverings by the square foot instead of the square yard. It looked like the new prices were lower, because the average person equates a yard with 3 feet. But because there are actually 9 square feet in 1 square yard, the new prices were a huge increase.
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Nov 21, 2018 12:30:51   #
Probably planning on flirting with Santa at the mall later.
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Nov 21, 2018 12:25:44   #
Bet she can't find an ashtray or lighter anymore though.
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Nov 21, 2018 11:55:29   #
cascoly wrote:
controlled burns are also not as likely to be done near developments -- yet another factor for CA was the rain they did get in the spring which led to MORE brush that became fuel as the summer dried it out

this is a cycle that isnt going to end soon


That's the scary part; no end in sight. Doesn't take long for brush to grow back, especially in a state with long growing seasons. Most of the land in California is privately owned as well. (About 48% private, 46% federal, the rest state). How many of those land owners are willing to pay for the cleanup of their property? Are Californians willing to invest in a huge new year-round industry for brush eradication? Is the federal government ready to ante up for the huge sum it will take for federal areas? It will not be easy.
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Nov 21, 2018 03:19:14   #
The area in question hadn't had any appreciable rain in more than 200 days. Their dry conditions have been ongoing for several years. You can't stage a "controlled" burn without the help of an immediate soaking rain to extinguish the hot embers and ashes, which will remain flammable for several days or longer. I notice that the gentleman who thinks that California can't "seem to get anything right" is from Pennsylvania, a beautiful state where I lived as a young boy. I assume that he must also blame Pennsylvania for the flooding rains there this past year. https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2018/08/13/pennsylvania-flooding-drenching-rain-wreaks-havoc-across-state/980889002/ Pennsylvania has some beautiful forests as well. They don't have the extreme heat and drought that California has had to deal with. The biggest help for firefighters battling a forest fire is rain. Without rain, the fires just rekindle. Without rain, a controlled burn over a large area just isn't possible or safe. California is currently making plans for more controlled burns. However, whether it will be successful remains to be seen. https://www.foxnews.com/us/36-homes-destroyed-when-controlled-burn-goes-out-of-control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfqrvvTRmXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjYSR3etwlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyJ8pm9uetw
https://www.outsideonline.com/1988971/playing-fire-feud-grows
https://www.kxii.com/content/news/Out-of-control-burn-477702553.html
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https://www.wect.com/2018/10/21/controlled-burn-sparks-out-control-brunswick-county/
This article from Australia points out the fact that the weather HAS to be right for a controlled burn to go right. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-13/is-the-prescribed-burn-window-closing-in-australia/10236048 Burns that get out of control usually do so because of an unanticipated change or increase in the wind. The practice is not a quick, safe fix.
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Nov 20, 2018 17:30:00   #
The facts about the fire that destroyed Paradise seemingly are being ignored and replaced with an argument over forest logging. The facts actually indicate that this deadly fire had nothing to do with overgrown, neglected forests. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/environment/sd-me-wildfire-logging-trump-20181112-story.html Quoting from that article, which is similar to other articles I have read: "The blaze did start in the foothills of Sierra Nevada mountains, but not in an overly dense patch of woods. On the contrary, the fire spread through an area that had been recently logged. It then burned through grassland and sparse woodland oak habitat." There are areas of forest in the state that are a great fire threat due to drought, beetle infection, and overgrowth, but that is not what caused the Paradise fire. Thinning the forests may be necessary, but it won't prevent wild fires.
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Nov 18, 2018 04:35:04   #
Just want to repeat what I said earlier in case people overlooked it. Search for photos just prior to this fire. That area of California was not cluttered with old neglected forests. It underwent significant logging in 2008. The extremely hot, dry weather simply rendered everything highly flammable, and the strong winds turned the area into a raging blast furnace that couldn't be stopped. The efforts by people, including the President, to politicize the tragedy are disgraceful. Early settlers traveling across the open plains areas had no forests to contend with, but they still faced raging, fast-moving grass fires during periods of drought. You can allow logging companies to eliminate the forests if you want, but you still won't eliminate the risk of wildfires.
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Nov 17, 2018 13:33:34   #
Geezer Bill wrote:
I was a wildland fire fighter for twelve years in southern California and I can tell you it doesn't matter a tinkers dam who owns the land involved! I didn't read every word of every rambling statement of this whole thread, but I didn't see much about the real cause of the devastation. The biggest problem is the hot dry winds that we call santa ana's. The relative humidity can be in single digits for several days with winds often reaching 60-70 miles per hour. I have witnessed fires burning through pine and oak trees as fast as they would through grass and light brush. When you see something that makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up you don't tend to forget it. It seems to me that this years weather pattern has moved north taking these winds away the south end of the state, sparing us for the moment.
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Exactly! No rain there for more than 6 months. Forest management can't stop something like that. Everything was dried out and ready to burn.
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Nov 17, 2018 10:06:01   #
Then it would be a good idea for everyone here to search the internet for photos of the Paradise area just before the fire. This was not an old growth area littered with dead trees. It looked green and healthy, and the trees were mostly young. It just got too dry because of the weather, and with no heavy stands of old timber to slow the wind, the fire raced at almost the same speed as the wind. There is no perfect solution.
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Nov 17, 2018 09:10:43   #
elad wrote:
I suppose that on Google one can find the answer one favors:

In fact, regardless that he expressed his opinion in classically inelegant Trumpian terms, the president is correct in at least this: The state of California has been doing an awful job of managing its forests.

The degree to which that mismanagement contributed to this latest round of wildfires may be called into question, but the fact of the state’s mismanagement itself is beyond doubt.

The non-partisan California Legislative Analyst’s Office released a report entitled “Improving California’s Forest and Watershed Management” in April of this year. In a related fact sheet, they recognized that “[m]ost of the forests across the state are in an unhealthy condition.” They further stated that overgrown, unhealthy forests resulted in “increased risk of severe forest fires” and recommended actions to thin California’s many overgrown, unhealthy forests that have developed in the name of environmental puritanism.

And no, this sad situation is not the federal government’s fault. While the feds own the land on which the wildfires occurred, the Bureau of Land Management delegated its authority to manage that land—and most of the rest of the federally owned forests in California—to the state’s Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE) as part of that agency’s State Responsibility Area (SRA) a long time ago.

The fire that consumed Paradise, California, occurred in a part of Northern California within the state’s SRA, as is most of the state outside of the deserts in Southern California. Some say these fires started in the high chaparral, a bush-like vegetation that is unrelated to forestry management. Perhaps that is the case.

Whatever the facts, no one can question that the fires started in a part of the state for which California itself is wholly responsible for fire protection and that California’s irresponsible forest-management practices are sure to lead to more fires in the future. It’s just a matter of time.
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In 2008, just 10 years ago, that part of California was logged in an effort to clear out fuels and make the area safer. That is a fact. Look it up for yourself if you don't believe me. That very act of thinning the forest left more room for grass and weeds and brush and saplings to grow, and those plants burn a lot faster than the old mature trees. It was the speed of the fire moving through the thinned out areas that caused the deaths of those people. More thinning of the forests just isn't the answer, when flaming dry grass and weeds are just as deadly and harder to escape from. The area hadn't had any appreciable precipitation for more than 200 days. No amount of forestry management can easily overcome that, especially when accompanied by high daily temperatures.
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Nov 17, 2018 08:00:58   #
traderjohn wrote:
That's a sketchy explanation. It's a fire.


The point is that it's more dangerous because grass and brush ignite faster than a 100-year-old tree. People need to be able to respond to the danger more quickly than our system is set up for. Trying to place blame on the forestry service when the non-forested areas are tinder boxes is pointless. Controlled burns during a drought result in more area for brush to grow. Private fields and yards full of dying grass also pose a problem. There aren't going to be any cheap fixes. I'm sure more communities out there are going to try more controlled burns, but you can't do it right without some rain during the year. You can't just burn everything off and turn the area into a dust bowl.
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Nov 17, 2018 07:36:54   #
Keep in mind that this was a wildfire, not a forest fire. Grass and brush and wind and drought were the driving forces. A true forest fire moves more slowly. No easy solution when the grass itself is so dry.
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