JohnFrim wrote:
Bill, you are correct that I took up photography as a hobby years ago, but I do not consider myself an expert. However, I do know if I like something or not. I can also do A vs B comparisons and make a choice for myself. And I will say that right here in UHH "Nudie Section" there are plenty of images to compare. Tim's "art" is but a small slice of the spectrum.
I have been to many museums and art galleries to see their offerings, and I go on the assumption that what is presented is considered worthy of being called "art." I have scratched my head at many of the pieces trying to figure out why this "piece of crap" is considered art when down the hall is a wonderful painting or sculpture that really moves me. Of course, I acknowledge that there is another patron who may have exactly the opposite take. That is the nature of human likes, dislikes and preferences. And while I have the choice of entering an art gallery or passing it up, I have yet to find myself in an art gallery where I have been told by the management, curators, or on occasion the artists themselves that I don't know s@@t about art.
It is no secret that I don't find many of Tim's offerings appealing. I expressed those views early on and was basically told by "the master" that my opinion is worthless. Well, sorry, not to me it isn't. And I am entitled to say so. Of course, Tim decided some time ago that I am just a stupid art-uneducated technophile and no longer answers any of my comments. But I am somewhat "flattered" to be named in several of his disparages of posters who, like me, don't connect positively with his images; I guess I have become the poster boy of the Tim Bashers.
You seem to hold an opinion similar to that of Tim in that you distinguish between "opinion and informed opinion." Do you have an MFA dgree? Is yours an informed opinion or are just a hack who likes soft porn (as presented by Tim)? Does your opinion count more than mine?
How technical are you when it comes to cameras (optics, mechanics, electronics)? How good are you with lighting techniques? Do you pay attention to background/foreground in composing your shots? Do you "pose" your subjects in the case of portraits/figure shots? How proficient are you at post processing? I mention these technical/mechanical aspects of photography only to tell you that if you think you are good in those areas... well, Tim says they are worthless skills when it comes to creating art.
I express my opinion on images presented on this forum because:
- I have an opinion that I think is worth sharing
- I am entitled to express that "personal uninformed" opinion
- I think the poster might be looking for feedback
- I think I have seen enough images, read enough books on photography, read "informed opinions" on images and learned from those critiques, that my assessment of an image is somewhat more analytical than a thumbs-up or thumbs-down.
As a final comment I will get back to your "opinion and informed opinion" comment. It really is up to the reader/recipient of the opinion, not the issuer, to decide on whether the opinion has merit. Tim and his supporters are always telling folks that they have the choice to look or not. Well, Tim -- and you perhaps -- have the option of liking or not liking the comment, informed or not.
Bill, you are correct that I took up photography a... (
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Just so you know, I have almost the same degree as Ansel Adams, a BA in applied music. I continued into a masters program but gave it up after a year and a half as it was something that was a waste of money. I then continued on in life as a commercial photographer then an industrial photographer and eventually a writer and photographer. I make a living at it.
I'm glad to see that you now identify your opinions as just that, but your earlier criticisms were more along the line of this stuff is crap, and I will argue that with you endlessly. Trust me , there's a lot on this forum that I find distasteful but I keep out of it. I only came out as I though the litany of ill informed posts were uncalled for.