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Jul 1, 2014 15:12:04   #
I just had someone, who has posted something in the neighborhood of 7000 posts on this forum, call me a newby. Well, maybe I am, but I can sure say one thing, I have a lot better things to do than spend the better part of my life doing this. Once in a while a subject comes up that I feel very strongly about and I express my opinion. Other than that I have a life.
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Jul 1, 2014 15:05:17   #
bvm wrote:
I'll bet you wish you did.
Instead you live in the land of fruits and nuts


You are hysterical. Now I know you are from the dark ages. No one calls California the land of the fruits and the nuts anymore. And when you say fruits, what exactly do you mean by that? You mean apples, oranges, strawberries and other such delicacies or do you mean something else?
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Jul 1, 2014 15:01:41   #
Screamin Scott wrote:
For someone so new to the UHH, you sure do like to call people names... Must be a progressive as that's all they know how to do... There is no denying of birth control here, just abortion methods, and it's not denying them, just not paying for them to do it this way. Evidently you can in late on this thread & have not bothered to read all of the pages.... You sir, are the Neanderthal....


Firstly, I am not a sir. And secondly, I have read all of the threads but as a woman who is pro choice, I always find it interesting when a bunch of old men, who really know nothing about women's bodies are making all of the decisions. Trying to explain how this feels to me and other women would be like trying to explain compassion, empathy, and understanding to someone like you. People who believe that we need to go backwards in time are not really understanding society today. I'll bet you are one of those people who don't believe in giving gay people their rights. That is why I call so called Christians, the Taliban of the US and other men Neanderthal. I may be progressive but you my friend are regressive. Oh, sorry I guess we are not friends.

To be honest I really do not like to go on these rants but as you can probably tell I feel very passionate about this subject and have for a very long time.
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Jul 1, 2014 14:47:53   #
bvm wrote:
No, I don't think so, but CA. must be a dreadful place to live, nobody gives anybody any rights.


Oh, I see. You're from Arizona, well I guess that says it all!
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Jul 1, 2014 14:47:01   #
bvm wrote:
No, I don't think so, but CA. must be a dreadful place to live, nobody gives anybody any rights.


Don't speak about what you don't know.
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Jul 1, 2014 14:35:32   #
SteveR wrote:
Talk about somebody as inflexible as the mujahideen!!


Typical.
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Jul 1, 2014 14:33:26   #
Bazbo wrote:
None of my purchasing choices are based on religion, so your analogy completely fails. I personally don't care if people buy cheap crap from HL regardless of the source.

HL is making a religious argument, not an economic argument.

I guess I am completely wrong to expect Evangelicals to be consistent. They use their religion when it suits them and then turn a blind eye when it doesn't. My mistake for pointing out the obvious hypocrisy.


Right on!
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Jul 1, 2014 14:30:34   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
Can you show me the foundation for such rights? And can you explain to me how this supposed right has been taken away by this decision? Because in reading the decision the court clearly states that it is incumbent upon the government to provide an alternative method for these effected women to secure these drugs in compliance with the law in a manner that does not infringe upon the individual religious rights of the closely held corporation just as they made similar accommodation for the catholic church... So it is unclear to me that anything has been taken away including the fictitious right to have free access to all forums of birth control at an employers expense... Somehow I missed that as I read through the bill of rights.
Can you show me the foundation for such rights? A... (show quote)

Who do you work for? I'll bet whoever it is, they pay for the majority of your medical expenses unless of course you are self employed, and in that case you have a right to do what you want. But you don't have a right to deny an employee their rights just because you happen to disagree with their method of birth control. I guess you want us to go back to the dark ages when women had to go to another building once a month and were considered unclean. You are a neanderthal buddy. The religious right is just like the Taliban in their own closed minded way, sans the car bombs.
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Jul 1, 2014 14:25:02   #
travelwp wrote:
The fact is the Supreme Court said, if a company has a religious objection to abortion, they don't have to pay for it.

Hobby Lobby will pay for your birth control, they don't want to pay for you to kill your baby.


Oh please. Are you from the dark ages?
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Jul 1, 2014 14:22:01   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
I am laughing at you! None of this screed has anything to do with the actual merits of the case.... read the decision and then bring an informed argument... Grow up!


I think your moniker is completely appropriate!
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Jul 1, 2014 11:47:37   #
venturer9 wrote:
Can any of you people that continue to bring up these silly "What If's" actually understand what has gone on in this ruling. In all cases, and in this case particularly NOTHING has been done to keep you/them from getting the pills they want,, Only that their insurance will not pay for it..

My wife goes to a Chiropractor and as part of her treatment she receives acupuncture. Our insurance does not pay for acupuncture, only the "manipulation" BUT she still gets Acupuncture...we just pay for it out of pocket...

If you believe that this one very simple ruling will begin a horrible land slide of Pro Christian/Religious rulings, you are a bit more simple minded that I supposed.....

You were not upset when Prayer was taken out of schools, You are apparently not upset when you see where some school has halted the football team having a prayer before the game. You are apparently not upset when the Valedictorian has his/her speech torn up because "God" was mentioned. Yet your panties are on fire over this very small victory of Religious Belief over PC....

Mike
Can any of you people that continue to bring up th... (show quote)


You really miss the point don't you.
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Jul 1, 2014 11:45:04   #
Yes, they can, but I'll bet if you wanted your Viagra Hobby Lobby would pay for it. The ruling is completely hypocritical and again is a bunch of old men making decisions for women. It's disgusting and I hope reasonable women stick together and boycott Hobby Lobby and hurt them on the bottom line, that is what will get their attention.
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Jun 4, 2014 15:03:27   #
dennis2146 wrote:
But then who will speak up for the baby. We all know about Dr. Gosnell who delivered babies still alive and who would have survived. What about those babies and others who should have a say but their voice was eliminated.

I think abortion should be legal. But I also think it is too easy to get an abortion. A woman can go out and have sex without caring if she gets pregnant and then simply make it all go away. Where is the responsibility?

Dennis


It's not that simple.
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Jun 4, 2014 12:37:24   #
Oh my god. Blah, blah, blah. I think several of you who are just making up this crap to further your agenda. For every case you site I can give you many more where while terminating their pregnancy wasn't their only choice, they at least had a choice. Why don't you people get over yourselves. Like I said earlier you just like beating that dead horse! While I might have never have had to make that choice, I know it is still legal and safe because whether you agree or not women will chose to have an abortion and it is really none of your business.
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Jun 4, 2014 12:02:35   #
Penny MG wrote:
Good reply! :thumbup:


Penny, well said.
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