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Apr 23, 2018 11:22:23   #
gessman wrote:
You've been around this stuff for some time, a uhh member for over 5 years now, and used other equipment enough to probably know that there's something wrong with your lenses, or camera, but you might be able to give them a little better test and answer your own question a little more definitively. Rather than aim the lens at a wide open field, as you have in that image you posted, I'd like to suggest that you perform a more specific test. Get something like an eye test chart, a rifle target, something with distinct and fine lines on it, tack it to a fence a few feet away in good light, with no wind, and do the tripod thing with a remote control or use the 10 second timer rather than the two second, getting some images that you can blow up and see whether or not your lenses are focusing properly. It is often said that many lens are sharpest a couple of steps up from wide open. Don't just shoot at f/8 but rather, try other f/stops and see if there are other stops that give you sharper images than f/8 - maybe from f/4 to f/16, for instance and compare them against f/8. Some people use a newspaper or a magazine cover as targets even. It doesn't look to me like you're giving your lens much of a test, aiming them into a wide open field like that, with no particular discernible subject even though you say you did roughly use the bottom of that fence post as a tentative subject. It certainly isn't all that evident just what you were shooting at upon first glance.
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Hello Gessman,

Well that photo wasn't really meant to be a test shot. Simply a photo of an Amish saw mill that's near my house. But I think you're right.... even though I've shot hundreds of photos with both of these lenses it's time for me to go do some serious test shooting with both of them.

I also think that gwilliams is correct that a call to Sony might be in order.

Thanks much !
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Apr 23, 2018 10:04:56   #



LOL ! Thanks Jerry. I'll go read all of those and get back to you sometime before June or July !

Seriously though.... Thanks :)
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Apr 23, 2018 09:49:51   #
chapjohn wrote:
Leave steady shot on and OSS on when using a tripod. These systems are made to work together and to work when on tripod. As technology in photography advances our previous rules need a rewrite to include these advances.

These lenses will focus on the nearest thing. You need to something to focus on when setting the hyper focus.


OK I"ll leave them on. I had read online that it was best to turn them off when using a tripod but I'll take your suggestion.
I spot focused on the fence post in the lower center of the photo which was just one foot beyond the hyper focal distance. I thought that would do.

Thanks !
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Apr 23, 2018 09:02:30   #
pecohen wrote:
Are you looking at RAW, unprocessed images? Without processing they may look pretty soft.


Hello pecohen,

Although I've still go much to learn about Lightroom the photo is post processed.

Thanks
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Apr 23, 2018 08:59:45   #
dsmeltz wrote:
Were you on a tripod or hand held? I did not see where you addressed that.


Hi,

The camera was on a tripod with it's vibration reduction turned off and with a 2 second time delay.

Thank you !
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Apr 23, 2018 08:57:45   #
Teutsad wrote:
I hv the Sony A7 and the first lens you mentioned purchased new in Jan 2015, and it shoots sharp. I am wondering if yr camera was set up by the original owner for back button focus? If the focusing function was decoupled from the shutter button it might be the issue?


Hi,

I have the camera set up for back button focus. This lens seems to be quite soft regardless of how I focus the camera. Weather I use one of the 5 auto focus modes ( via back button focus ) or manual focus I still can't seem to get a sharp shot.

Thanks !
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Apr 23, 2018 08:51:24   #
mwsilvers wrote:
What were you actually focusing on? Besides the slow shutter speed everything is very soft EXCEPT for the fence post in the bottom middle which, although not tack sharp, is reasonably sharp. Does your camera have different focus modes allowing you to choose individual focus points or groups of points to train directly on your subject? With traditional mirrored DSLR's when you use all focus points, especially in auto mode, the cameras will tend to focus on the closest object in view, which in this case would be the bottom center fence post. I don't how whether a mirrorless camera like yours would respond similarly, but I wonder if that might be the problem. I'm also not familiar with the shooting modes for your camera. Were you shooting in full auto?
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Hi again,

I was in aperture mode and in fact the camera was spot focused on that very fence post just to the right of the bottom center. This Depth of Field calculator ( https://www.photopills.com/calculators/dof ) tells me that with a 30mm lens at f8 a point 13 feet from the camera is the hyper focal distance. Therefore at f8 focusing on something 13 feet from the camera should render everything from about 6 feet from the camera to infinity in focus. That fence post was 14 feet in front of the camera. So unless I'm misunderstanding what the calculator is telling me ( quite possible ! ) that fence post and everything beyond it should have been in focus.

More practice is obviously needed !
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Apr 23, 2018 08:23:49   #
Linary wrote:
The attached image is Photoshop's interpretation of your image in and out of focus. (Masked area indicates not in focus.)

That which is in focus appears soft.

Your shutter speed of 1/50th may not be fast enough even on a tripod in windy conditions, but another possibility is that there was a very slight movement of the camera when the shutter release was activated. (See how the masked area is a little more pronounced on the right hand side - only the base of the telegraph pole is sharp whilst the upper parts are blurred - and thus masked out. The single sheep in focus is near to the centre of the image.

Use the same lens at f/8, on tripod, stabilisation off, mirror up, remote or timer release. ISO up a bit to shorten the shutter speed and see if there is an improvement.
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Hello Linary,

Thanks much for taking the time for me.

I'll go shoot a bit today and do as you've suggested. I"ll shoot at f8 again and use a bit higher ISO. On that photo I adjusted the exposure by using aperture mode, with f8, and adjusting the EV to 'shoot to the right'. I thought the exposure looked about right but surely a higher shutter speed can't hurt. Also the stabilization was turned off and I used a 2 second delay for the shutter. No wind and no mirror.

I do have a question for you though. If there were wind or anything else that caused some slight camera movement and therefore caused the photo to be blurry, would not the entire photo be blurry ? What might cause some of the photo would be sharp and some not ?

Thanks again
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Apr 23, 2018 07:42:26   #
tdekany wrote:
First it looks like you have a dirty sensor. Are you noticing the 2 spots in the sky?

How old are your lenses? On Fred Miranda dot com, I remember many members had to go through 3 or 4 copies of both of these zoom lenses before they received a good copy. Recent copies supposed to have better quality control.

PS: which lens was used in this picture?


I do see the spots on the sky. I didn't until you mentioned them but I do now. Bummer as I just paid a professional camera repair store in Denver, CO to clean the sensor about 50 shots ago.

I bought both of these lenses used, one from a fellow here on UHH and the other from KEH Camera. So I have no idea how old they are. Also I'm not really sure but I believe the 16-35mm f4 lens was used to shoot that photo. Though I get similar results with either lens.

Thanks much.
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Apr 22, 2018 23:17:35   #
tdekany wrote:
Post a picture and make sure to click store original


A pretty terrible photo but here is one...

This was shot at 29mm @ f8, 1/50, focused just beyond the hyper-focal distance of about 13 feet ( I think ) on a tripod with ' steady shot ' turned off.


(Download)
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Apr 22, 2018 22:39:20   #
mwsilvers wrote:
I can't reconcile your comment that it's a mighty fine camera but you can't get a decent photo out of it. Since the whole purpose of having a camera is taking decent photos, I find it strange that you would say that. The fact is though it is a very very fine camera, and while I have no familiarity with those lenses, chances are it's not the camera or the lenses, but your technique and understanding of how to get the best from this camera that's the issue. Please post one or more of the photos that are problematic. Be sure to check the store original box so we can see it at full resolution.
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By saying that I think it's a mighty fine camera but I can't get a decent photo out of it.... I only meant to imply that I think the problem is either me or the lens. Maybe I worded that badly but I don't think there's anything wrong with the camera.
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Apr 22, 2018 21:42:00   #
PixelStan77 wrote:
Check out this. It talks about issues on focus with your camera and solutions

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-443536-1.html


Thank you Stan. I"ll go read that now.
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Apr 22, 2018 21:26:19   #
PixelStan77 wrote:
Do you wear glasses?


I do wear glasses though I've adjusted the diopter so that the image looks clear to me. I also use the 12.5x magnification function of the camera and the focus looks just fine via the EVF.

I bought the camera used and no warranty

Also is it not true that my wearing glasses would only be an issue when I were using manual focus. Would the camera camera not focus correctly in the Auto Focus mode regardless if I had perfect vision or were near blind ?

Thanks
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Apr 22, 2018 20:53:08   #
Hi all,

A bit of a problem and I figure this is the place to find answers...

I own a Sony A7rii which I think is a mighty fine camera but I can't get a decent photo out of it. I might be wrong but I strongly suspect there is no problem with the camera but suspect it's a lens thing. Everything I shoot is soft. Nothing is ever well focused. Auto focus, manual focus, doesn't matter. Nothing is ever sharp.

I have the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 16-35mm f/4 ZA OSS lens and the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS lens and they both take very soft photos. Neither of these are the much more expensive ' G ' models, which I"m sure are much better, but for the price of the ones I have I would have thought that I could have gotten some pretty good shots.

Could it be me, the camera or is it possible that these two lens are just never going to shoot truly sharp photos ?

Your thoughts greatly appreciated.

Thanks !
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Apr 11, 2018 19:35:28   #
Maybe it's my monitor but the photo looks like just another average photo. Not bad. Nothing great. But the download shows that it's a truly stunning photograph ! WOW ! Well done !
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