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Jul 10, 2013 14:43:31   #
OK Light House...willing to eat a little crow here. I had a long discussion with a cam expert and I stand corrected. There is no difference between fx and dx focal lengths except the fx image circle is larger than the dx so that it covers the fx sensor size. GoofieNewfie's test set me straight. Thanks...my curiosity has paid off and have learned something new again. Sorry for the arrogant comments. Thought all this time I was correct about the crop factor and its use. Some body send me a crow!
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Jul 10, 2013 13:40:40   #
The crop factor is not my brainchild. Its the standard in the industry when converting dx focal lengths to 35mm. Your argument is with the engineers...not me.
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Jul 10, 2013 12:24:36   #
your way above me Light House...have a good one.
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Jul 10, 2013 12:01:32   #
This is getting ridiculous. The recorded image from a 24mm fx lens mounted on a dx cam is not the same as a 12mm dx lens mounted on a dx cam. The smaller sensor size of the dx format will crop out the edges of the image from the 24mm fx lens to make it look like a 36mm dx lens image circle. You are forgetting the crop factor for dx at 1.5. You should test you theory.
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Jul 10, 2013 11:49:53   #
show us a sample?
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Jul 10, 2013 11:42:10   #
Hey Light House... If you mount a 24mm fx lens on a dx cam the crop will be more and you will lose image area around the edges of the photo. It would be equivalent or close to the image size of a 35mm dx lens on the dx cam. 1.5 x 24mm = 36mm.

C8...you need a wide angle dx lens to shoot real estate interiors. 10mm to 17mm dx would work. Expensive though. If you go under 10mm the edges of the photo would resemble fish-eye and need heavy post processing or may not be usable at all. The 18-55mm dx kit lens would probably be the cheapest lens but would be at the wide angle limit for interiors.
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Jul 10, 2013 10:51:23   #
Taken with Nikon d200 with Tokina 12-24 shot at 12mm mounted on 16ft cam pole. 7 photo HDR...processing frames 1,3,5 and 7.


Hey C8...just ask a lot of questions about the lens you are looking for. Yes you will have to spend some money but if you are getting in the real estate photography biz it will pay off. You will want to stay under 17mm DX crop (as I misstated before) Sorry. Do not use an FX lens. Even though it will fit the camera the crop factor will not work as well as the DX. OK gotta make some money...good luck.






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Jul 10, 2013 10:30:22   #
sure...give me a few minutes
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Jul 10, 2013 10:18:01   #
Hey lighthouse...don't pop an eyeball...yes you are correct. I meant more than 17mm. And it doesn't matter if the fx fits the dx cam. The focal length will matter if she mounts a 24mm fx on the dx cam. With the crop factor that makes it a 36mm....way out of line for real estate interiors. Please don't make this post about you and your expertise. She simply needs some help. Thanks for correcting me. I sometimes get it backwards...like right from left.
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Jul 10, 2013 09:54:38   #
Hi c8...I used a Tokina 12-24mm dx for several years to shoot real estate. Very good lens. Ebay is listing for under $400. Make sure whatever you buy is designed for the dx sensor format and not the fx (35mm) format. Your Nikon 3200 is a dx format camera. Look up the definition if you don't already know. Very important. I wouldn't go less than 17 mm dx. You will see why when shooting smaller rooms. I now use the Tokina 11-16mm dx on a Nikon d300 for interiors and the 12-24 for aerial 16ft pole exteriors on a Nikon d200. Both are great lenses. Good luck!!
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Jul 10, 2013 02:30:52   #
Mogul wrote:
Sorry to hear that; I certainly didn't mean to. Your photos were very nice and in a rural setting might help sell the property. You are obviously more knowledgeable about the subject than I am, so please permit me to leave gracefully. I thought we could have a reasonable and interesting discussion. I never meant to offend you. Please accept my deepest apology.

BTW, it's Mogul (like the train); why the "Mr."?


You probably did mean no harm and I too but you came off like a arrogant expert on a subject I know enough about to know you have not been in the real estate biz very long. No worries....good luck with your new career. Keep shootin eh?
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Jul 10, 2013 02:23:41   #
Just work your ass off learning if you have the curiosity and it will pay off....BTW not all my photos are HDR...here is one composed from 2 pics and processed in Photo Shop. The one draw back with HDR is CA, Chromatic Aberations Not a photo killer but needs to be held to a minimum. I purposely held back on the HDR processing of this pic because the dynamic range was not was not broad enough...no need for HDR. OK...I am done.
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Jul 10, 2013 02:03:33   #
OK..."Mr. Mogul" I will respond once more to you and this is it dude....I have been working with realtors, THOUSANDS, PROFESSIONALLY since 1992 in Denver and nationally, as a print shop owner / operator...including a bunch of realtors that migrated here from California...when selling real estate was like selling drugs on the street....and NOW... as a professional real estate photographer....IT IS A FACT,GREAT PHOTOS sell real estate when the market is a buyers/sellers market, sellers market and buyers market. It can make all the difference to an agent who knows quality and has no problem spending a bit more for the TACK SHARP photos and my expertise because they know it could mean attracting a buyer who is willing to hire a realtor who exhibits the professional quality in representation from the model of his or her automobile, the way he or she dresses, their physical appearance, curbside manners, web presence including listing activity reports etc..., and general or specialized real estate knowledge including the listing brochure quality, design, their slogan and overall realtor brand which is enhanced with GREAT PHOTOS!! That's the caliber of realtor I work with every day!! OUR MLS does not allow for Heavy Photo Shopped images nor do many across the country I would assume. The photo I uploaded is not heavily photo shopped or enhanced other than recreation of the natural colors and image data the scene presented. You haven't been selling real estate long enough to know if good photography sells homes or not. I regularly work with 35 year seasoned veterans of the industry who know the very first thing to do is get great photos of their new listing. And as a former realtor I know what the ef I am talking about. Just because you haven't had the experience of winning a commission solely based on photo image quality does not make you an expert on whether or not GREAT PHOTOS do or don't sell real estate. Comprende, comrade?...or whatever!! Yes you are right...not all real estate sells because of the photos...I am not narrow minded enough to believe that for a minute, but GREAT Photos are a must for every listing....because it keeps me in business...I don't mean to be harsh but you kinda got under my skin Mr. Mogul...I have to say almost every time I get on this site to help some one there is always some BOZO that has to chime in and challenge me with there self centered, unrealistic, opinion about my advice. If any thing it is entertaining at the least. See what you started Steve....this is a great site despite the distractions some times. You seem passionate about your work and that's a must for GREAT PHOTOS...have a great time shooting. RRG


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Jul 10, 2013 00:57:52   #
RR is fine Fred
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Jul 10, 2013 00:44:21   #
Tack sharp is what I strive for in every shot...its the discipline it demands that sets the bar ...I don't care what the customer thinks is acceptable...I know when I am hired they will get my best every time. Your comment is riddled with mediocrity. Sorry...don't mean to be critical but as a pro I don't settle for less. My customers compliment the work that they are paying for so I must be doing something right. Great photos help sell real estate....no question...some customers don't give a crap about the quality or the dynamic range of a photo ...but I do!!!
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