I really wonder why this is such a argument Raw gives us much more latitude when processing our photo JPG is a lossy file which does in fact lose something in the file every time it is edited and also when it is saved each and every time, now many may not notice this loss the first few edits and saves especially if you do minor adjustments
. With a RAW file nothing is lost we keep everything the best way is to create a copy of the original either RAW or JPG, tiff etc. and work with it that way the original is always there and always the same. When I work open a jpg it is not far into the process that I can see a difference such as banding, and tonal differences. This should not be such an argument its your choice either use RAW with its full capabilities or use jpg and push it as far as you can your choice. In my opinion why not use the file that gives you the most control which you can redo over and over without fear of losing the original.
JohnR wrote:
A 1st time poster on UHH although I have been subscribed for nearly a year now. I started photography with my first job in 1963 where I received training using a Linhoff Technica 5” x 4”, developing and printing Ilford FP4 & HP4 etc etc. (some Kodak varieties but can’t remember their names … ! ) Although not exactly a “Professional” photographer, photography has been part of my work with every job I’ve ever had. I have taken probably the best part of 500K shots in nearly 50 years of work. I moved over to digital in the early 2000’s with Fujifilm & Pentax progressing to Olympus and lately Nikon & Sony cameras. Digital cameras coupled with the internet were wonderful for me enabling me to embed photos directly into my reports for me to email to clients often on the same day the work was completed. Reports in the days of film sometimes took a month or more before the client saw them ! Anyway that’s my background …
I have been reading with interest recent posts “discussing” JPEGS versus RAW and noted many stating that JPEGS discard data that is retained in RAW files. I felt from day 1 this is wrong ! JPEGS are compressed RAW files – nothing is discarded.
To prove this I have taken exactly the same shot for each file size setting on a Nikon D5300. Set on a tripod with manual settings :– ISO 900, ¼ sec, F7.1, focal length 18mm. Shots taken = JPEG Fine, RAW, RAW + JPEG Basic & JPEG Normal & JPEG Fine.
I then did a little basic editing in Faststone – exactly the same for each shot both NEF and JPEG. I levelled each and adjusted each for colour then saved at best 100% quality. Resulting file sizes are tabulated below.
File sizes
File Camera setting Jpg Raw Edited Jpg Edited Raw
353 Jpg Fine 11849 19455
354 Raw 21900 17815
355 Raw +Jpg Basic 2978 21999 17769 17706
356 Raw + Jpg Normal 6329 21801 19003 17753
357 Raw + Jpg Fine 11786 21792 19439 17801
Hmmm !! Who would have thought !!! Even the JPEG Basic file when edited comes out as large as the edited RAW files. Where did all that data come from I wonder – data obviously is not discarded when the camera saves the JPEG to the SD card. This confirms for me that I can get the same results editing a JPEG as I could editing a RAW file – all the shadow and highlight details etc. must be still in the JPEG given the resulting file sizes after editing. Editing can alter the data, can delete (crop) the data but I cannot see anyway it could add data.
Maybe some super high tech wizard can explain all this but I still think using RAW gives no benefit whatsoever. I certainly cannot see any difference between any of the shots whether RAW or JPEG whatever. For interest I view on a 5K Retina iMac
Cheers JohnR
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