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Dec 14, 2019 12:56:30   #
dyximan wrote:
Im curious, it has been my experience here on the hog that few ever actually answer the OPs originally asked question directly, and that opinions are far more prevalent and often unrelated. would you agree. Yes/No?

Yes. As in most any discussion, some of the off-topic drift is related and valuable, some just the expression of a need to be heard and vent a narrow, personal view.
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Dec 14, 2019 12:52:46   #
Quite fine as is, the nits noticed are only a dominant aspect if narrowly focused on. I really dislike this on a personal level for its "gruesomeness" for want of a better word, but would definitely jury it into an exhibition on its well-honed merits around a central idea.
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Dec 14, 2019 12:49:48   #
Interesting shot with good technique, but the reflection at the bottom is not in harmony compositionally and is just a distraction to the content.
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Dec 14, 2019 12:46:01   #
Depending on your purpose, #4 if you were taken by the bugler himself, #1 for the fuller picture. I like #1 because it is unique and it has a relation to the human condition, one of the goals of good art.
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Dec 14, 2019 12:43:01   #
DirtFarmer wrote:
The kid with the toys can let a friend use the toys but only on his terms.


This is a great logical fallacy. Physical possessions and intellectual property are not even close to similar.
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Dec 14, 2019 12:41:23   #
To all the above, to expose the clear haters and to clarify the theme.

It seems the work fails, whether with non-haptic and/or people hostile to me and spinning or with open-minded and knowledgable viewers.

Thanks to all (even the apparent personal haters). Knowing where I've failed is important. The artistic saying "I just do it for myself" in often misunderstood, and as a standard of art is BS and goes against basic human nature and the history of art.

Now, perhaps those willing can point why my theme failed, as I state it: The legacy of Western Culture is an overview of the burning of one of its symbols. It can be seen as one moves, or jumps around and considers, the classical Greek face from the era that is the kernel of our culture, through other destructions (the columns), to a high expression of it in the Renaissance (Michelangelo's "David") to the seemingly re-ignited understanding of our cultural strength (the glowing, restored Rose Window of the cathedral and final movement off to the upper right, a lightful, glowing hope). The picture also contains the moment in time of the cathedral's fire and falling). [A strange sidelight, the firefighters are from a shot I took across the street from my apartment in Chicago years ago. Also, the hints I give, (or thought I gave) of the clock face )time passing) and the reaching hand (searching for meaning) are photos of parts of other artworks of mine.]

Feel free to riff on this. I would like to know why I didn't convey my point.
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Dec 14, 2019 10:05:40   #
AzPicLady wrote:
I think I'll continue to believe what the lawyers who work daily with these issues have to say on the matter. And, you can sue for damages even if you haven't registered your photo. You just have more of a leg to stand on if you do.


Actually, a few experts in any field may not be adequate. Doing research with primary sources is important if this is going to be an issue for you. If those lawyers gave you the last bit, I really would doubt them. The fact is, if you register your copyright you can sue for punitive damages besides the financial damages that are allowed if you have not registered.
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Dec 14, 2019 10:00:31   #
Thanks for the replies, although I'm sad that I seem to have failed.

And, no one has "caught" my theme. Not the results I'd hoped for, but truth really does makes us free.
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Dec 14, 2019 09:47:33   #
I'd mind, if they made money or hurt my reputation, as copyright law forbids. If they "appropriate" it, including some of it in an artwork, I don't mind, copyright law not minding. I do that myself. If they mess up my image, I'd likely mind, but would just have to live with it.

Actually you can use any photo posted here, just not here because of UHH rules, and in the world at large under certain copyright restrictions.
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Dec 14, 2019 09:42:05   #
frjeff wrote:
Here is another shot which also shows the red building and its neighboring white stone building. The image is straight per the white building near tower. There does appear to be a slight backward tilt to the red building. But if you look at the far corner of the red building (not the roofline), it does not look much different than the perpendicular tower (they appear pretty parallel).
I’m at a loss as to why it looks so pronounced in my original posted shot.
All suggestions welcome.


I suspect you shot with a lens at under 50mm. Wide angle lenses distort perspective. As so long lenses in a different manner.
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Dec 13, 2019 23:22:08   #
CPR wrote:
Sorry, does not work for me. Just too complex. Perhaps a "younger" mind will feel differently?

Your mind is fine. It is complex. Thanks.
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Dec 13, 2019 22:55:20   #
Silkway2017 wrote:
We (myself, my wife and my son) traveled to Salt Lake City in July 2019.
I had my Pentax K-S1 DSLR with prime 50mm lens with me .
I mostly used Aperture Priority Mode. I am not well experienced photographer and I would appreciate suggestions how to improve my street/urban/parks/people photography based on these few example pictures.
If needed I can add more for analyses.
Thanks in advance !

The first two are real street photography, in the sense that they have people in the act of being human. Both have way too much unnecessary background. I suggest you crop a lot, including just enough to place them in some reality.
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Dec 13, 2019 22:46:30   #
Very creative and enjoyable contrasts of value and shape. Shows us a beautiful new view.
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Dec 13, 2019 22:43:48   #
Done well, and not a hackneyed landscape, sunset, etc. shot. Enjoyable at deeper levels. Thanks.
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Dec 13, 2019 22:40:24   #
JohnSwanda wrote:
That doesn't mean it's ethical or legal to take it for your own use. Sounds a little like blaming the victim. But I never post full sized images online for that reason. Even so I had someone print a web file on a t-shirt to sell, and someone who recognized it let me know.


It's complicated. Here are two good sources on copyright, one the law itself, the other, from public service lawyers:
https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-i-alter-or-make-art-from-books-prints-other-copyrighted-works-without-getting-sued-for-infringement.html

Using your situation as an example, someone was making money from an unaltered intellectual property of yours. Not fair use. Illegal.

If, however, I see your photo (1) a part of which I like and use in a larger piece, (2) it is not so special that something similar cannot be found anywhere else, (3) I change it to work with my expression of my art, and (4) its appearing in my work will not damage your business or reputation--if all those are met, I am okay. This is from what I've read (I had to do research for students wellness, and always warned them to read up on the subject if they were thinking of appropriation), and is confirmed by the sources listed above. Artists from Michelangelo to VanGogh to Picasso to Warhol have appropriated other artists' and photographers' work, to create something new with it as part of the creation.

It is good to know that copyright was enacted to protect. It protects the creator of a work from having the work taken and used for commercial gain, and to protect the creator's reputation ("brand" as it were). It also protects the primacy of creation, not wanting to freeze images from being re-imagined in new works.

Read. Ask. Be truly creative, not a hack copier.
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