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Aug 9, 2019 20:05:36   #
artBob wrote:
I've come to this after 9 pages of comments, which I will skim. However, IT DOESN'T MATTER. I am writing as an artist/photographer of 53 years and a professor of Art and Art Appreciation for over 30 years. I think that, and the general consensus is, the visual image, if not for personal memory or self-pleasure, is meant to communicate an idea or emotion, preferably personal to the artist/photographer, relevant to the human condition, and having excellent form (shapes, colors,tones, texture, techniques, and composition) that reinforces the idea/emotion. If you can do that by shooting and displaying without processing, it's fine. If others, myself included, like to work on the form to make it stronger, that's fine, too.
I've come to this after 9 pages of comments, which... (show quote)


Bob, your words haven't gone unread. I read them as I have in the past. Now you see why I don't venture here to often. There's only a handful of talents person on this forum who actually know what they doing and talking about. The rest are merely here to incite mixed feeling and force their views upon others. needless to say, I'm very tempted to enter the Christian topic area in the hopes I can escape these rabbling idiots and actually talk to someone without predigests or crude remarks or attempts to discredit others on how they believe, act or take pictures. You and I know how long we've been doing this and forums like this without correct firm moderation will continue to allow users/members to speak to one another rudely and without remorse just to one up another. If something works for you, then stick with it. I find what I do to my pictures is just fine without and post editing other than cropping. often I just have to let my pictures do the talking for me. it is what it is. you either like it or you don't, but one doesn't need to be rude about. The best advice anyone can give anyone else is positive thoughts toward what that said person is doing or attempting to do with their photography. I we just happen to be an older set that believes in leaving it like it is because it should be enough to tell the story we want told.
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Aug 9, 2019 05:54:00   #
rehess wrote:
Here I am not aware of any way creating a thread that only you can contribute to.


The reason I suggested a "blog" area. With the blog format one can allow of deny users/members to respond to their posted topics. Here, its a free for all which needs to be controlled better. typically all I see is arguing.. No matter where one goes of what one post, someone here will undoubtedly have some snide comment attempting to discredit or ruffle feathers. There's only a select few that stay the course and actually make plausible contributions to the community. others are here just to stir up trouble.
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Aug 9, 2019 05:45:52   #
Don't both wasting your money on these new lenses. wait a few more years because of this announcement:

https://fstoppers.com/news/mexican-physicist-solves-2000-year-old-problem-will-lead-cheaper-and-sharper-396628
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Aug 9, 2019 05:43:36   #
Correction/Clarification: Video camera = NO
Film camera = YES
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Aug 9, 2019 05:39:35   #
mwsilvers wrote:
There is no camera in existence that can capture an absolutely accurate rendition of reality. Why is removing barrel distortion, chromatic aberration, and vignetting portraying a false image? In reality the untouched image is more false. And what's wrong with adding contrast and sharpness to an image in post processing to enhance the final image?

Manipulation in the darkroom has be done by photographers for many decades. Digital cameras routinely apply contrast, sharpness, and colortone when they automatically post process the raw images to create jpegs, and they do it with far more rudimentary tools and far less control. The idea that there is more honesty and integrity shooting straight out of the camera for anyone who is not a documenting news or sports events. is just plain silly.
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Instead of attempting to answer the opers question, you attempt to discredit what I've said. Just another reason I'll never take sides or argue anything I've said or done with anyone here. Stop attempt to find flaws in others or others methods. Opers as for opinions mines is but one of them. He or she can take it or leave it. So don't try to convince me i'm right or wrong. After all it is how I view and do things. It is what it is and I think I'm doing very will with this "zero editing" movement.
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Aug 8, 2019 19:16:16   #
My personal objective is to not edit anything and rely on the use of filters. I never was a software master but would use cropping from time to time. My advice, don't edit anything, you're projecting a false image and I would rather see what was taken without any post editing. AlLaNatural.
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Aug 8, 2019 19:13:57   #
This is one reason why I wanted to create just an image thread for my images without others adding text etc. Just another reason I requested a blog area to do just that. But I've yet to see anything like this and I may yet create a thread just for images as I go along.
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Aug 8, 2019 19:04:42   #
Update:

Here's what I just discovered and thought it best to post this in order to tell and show others what not to do. First of all the B+W filter is a nice filter, but the wrong one for my M6. According to several very informative sites, I needed what is known as "CPL" circular polarization filter. The B+W is not listed as a CPL therefore it wouldn't & didn't work with my camera.

Although the images above show some slight darkening to the first image.. the filter could not reach it's full potential. One thing I notice while using the B+W on my 100mm lens is that the "sweet spot" was only in one place. In other words, when turning it went from bright to shaded without any sort of graduation. which left 80% of the filter unusable.

So don't make the mistake I just did. If you have a digital camera and use auto focus (like I have to) the B+W circular polarization filter doesn't work. Make sure when you purchase a polarization filter it's listed as a "CPL".

I've packaged up the filter and once it's been credited back to my amazon account, I'll make the right selection on what filter I should have purchased in the first place.
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Aug 8, 2019 12:16:27   #
After getting the 58mm B+W polarization filter and testing on my camera, I'm just not convinced that this filter is legit or is offering a suitable difference while taking pictures. I've tried testing the filter on the camera this afternoon out the back door. Shooting in several directions, and rotating the filter several times while in multiple directions. I located two images which shows some slight change in the blue sky but is this enough to warrant spending nearly $60.00 for a filter I'm not convinced is legit.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/ce77559adea271ee2bc0529f360d147c/tumblr_pvxem4EzcR1yrhjblo1_1280.jpg

Image 1: With the filter

https://66.media.tumblr.com/7b1b4c3378c930d83f26ddf45f077def/tumblr_pvxem4EzcR1yrhjblo2_1280.jpg
Image 2: Without the filter.

In order to achieve the darker 1st image, I learn that the "B+W" text when turned to the top of the filter while on the camera represents the darkest position. Anything before or after that point the filter is none existent.

Update:

You know when you get that feeling something isn't right. It's a gut feeling almost like you hate to admit it. When I get these types of feelings.. I typically end up sending the items back.. I've just requested a return label from Amazon and I'll resending this filter back. Just not convinced its legit.
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Aug 8, 2019 06:32:57   #
https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2019/8/7/t1-548462-imgp0074.jpg

Cedrus Deodara / Deodar Cedar: These are the female pine cones.
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Aug 7, 2019 12:17:37   #
Update:

The Fotodiox EF to EF-M adapter & B+W polarization filter just arrived. I wasn't worried about the Fotodiox adapter, however, it looked over the B+W filter with a fine tooth comb. Although the filter arrived in a black box which could have been the first sign that this filter wasn't real, because it typically would have arrived in blue packaging.

The next area to check was the URL on the pack of the packaging.. if one noticed spaces within the URL this was another tell tell sign something wasn't right. But that's 2 down (successful) and a few more inspections to go. This time around I took my eye loop and inspected the filter's markings. The filter has weight or is heavily made. I was really scrutinizing this filter. The last test prove this is the real deal.

If you decide to order a filter like this, check all the areas i mentioned above.. with one last test to performer. Placing the filter on the new 100mm lens carefully turning the filter as to make sure one doesn't cross thread the filter. One doesn't need to force the filter on tight, just turn until the filter's threaded area doesn't turn anymore.

Removing the cap, I stood in front of the computer screen and rotated the filter's out ring while the camera was on.. I reached a point where the window icon on my screen were not noticed and the filter went nearly dark, a small rotation counter clockwise brighten everything back to normal lighting conditions.

Again, here's the short list of things you should look for when ordering and testing new filters:

1) Check the packaging make sure it's consistent with current real packaging.
2) Check for date codes or errors within the text on the packaging.
3) Check how heavy the filter is suppose to be. Companies like B+W are manufactured to the highest quality and it will show in the workmanship.
4) Do not over tighten the filter onto the lens when checking. If there is a mistake one missed, it would be hard to remove the filter thereafter.
5) Lastly, once the filter has been mounted on the lens, focus on your computer screen and slowly rotate the filter while your camera is on. One should see the filter go from light to dark.
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Aug 7, 2019 10:29:11   #
https://66.media.tumblr.com/e06de462c1cd1f5d6957bbefc0cdd826/tumblr_pvver6R5VL1yrhjblo1_1280.jpg
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Aug 7, 2019 08:28:24   #
Because of things like this, we seldomly attend family gatherings and not that we're sorry about it, but because we don't have facebook. Why does facebook have anything to do with this?.. because the family plans events and post it on facebook. afterward they then post pictures of their kids smoking, drinking etc and think it's funny. In fact when I made a comment about what they were posting on social media, the family banned together and banned our facebook account. So unless it's a very close knit grouping and even then we just ignore them as long as the kids aren't crawling all over us. I tend to find a spot away from the main travel routes. Those that don't know me/us tend to ask "why are we so antisocial? sitting way over there"?
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Aug 7, 2019 08:21:35   #
Good to know, Maine here we come.
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Aug 7, 2019 08:18:39   #
Excellent. The textures, contrast and shadows. These are worthy of being framed.
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