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Feb 26, 2020 06:53:59   #
assman wrote:
Hi All,
Would a 10-17 f3.5-4.5 make a good landscape lens? As in Grand Canyon? I have a 18-35 Sigma now that I was planning on taking.

Thanks


I have both a Sigma 10-20mm wide angle and a Nikkor 8-15mm Fisheye: Both are great for landscapes, but have very different effects. I find that at 10mm, the fisheye captures more of the scenery than the wide angle. As for the distortion effect, they each have their own character.

One thought I have is that less people own a fisheye lens, so you're going to get more 'unique' photos.

Here are some examples of landscape with a fisheye (Nikkor 8-15mm) in Tibet and Iceland:






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Feb 23, 2020 05:33:37   #
Nikon and Sigma both make 10-20mm wide angles. I have the Sigma and love it.
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Feb 20, 2020 19:58:35   #
One point I don't see being made here: when you buy a high-end 300mm prime, such as the Nikkor 300mm f2.8G ED VR II ($5,500), you're also paying for the aperture of f2.8 at 300mm.

In contrast, a decent zoom lense such as the Nikkor 18-300mm f/3.5-6.3G ($630) has an aperture setting of f6.3 at 300mm.

That f2.8 helps to isolate objects at a distance: which can be noticeable when shooting sports and wildlife, and produces far different background OOF elements than the less expensive zoom lens at 300mm.
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Feb 20, 2020 16:48:11   #
Were it me, I'd bring my 8-15mm Fisheye - simply to get something a little different than everyone else gets with their standard wide-angles.
And would probably bring along a 10-20mm as well and just deal with doing some quick lens changes in the field (I'm guessing this could be it's own topic entirely, and I can see that if you have small or unsteady hands, perhaps changing lenses is more difficult).
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Feb 14, 2020 06:18:21   #
Been researching one for myself as well, seems the Nikkor 24mm f1.8 wpuld be pretty ideal for your budget, and is highly regarded.
Though you could also probably get the 24mm f1.4 for under $1000 if you're willing to buy used... I'm leaning towards getting a used f1.4 myself.
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Feb 11, 2020 06:59:38   #
rmalarz wrote:
I think the P stands for Professional.
--Bob


Take it up with Nikon - I'm just the messenger.
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Feb 11, 2020 06:58:39   #
Of course there are vast swaths of the earth that have not been photographed at the ground level in all conditions and times of day.

There are tribes in Brazil that have never been contacted by modern humans, islands in India (North Sentinel Island) where modern humans have made very limited contact (the last guy to visit was killed by the natives), and huge areas of the Arctic, Amazon, Siberia, the depths of the oceans, etc...

We've likely photographed far less of the Earth than has been photographed.
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Feb 11, 2020 06:46:36   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Although you mention using Auto, note that P (Professional, sometimes mistakenly called Program-Auto) is exactly the same as 'Auto' with the ability for you to dynamically adjust those camera-determined settings. Say the camera selects f/5.6, the human Professional can dial to f/3.5, available with their professional f/2.8 lens, and the camera dynamically adjusts the shutterspeed and / or ISO to maintain the same exposure. If you have some sort of fetish about counting images, this may be the approach to consider.

What is important is that you achieve the image you desire. No cares, no one on UHH, not your grandmother, not your life-coach, NO ONE cares how many images you took. We all only care about the final result you achieve.
Although you mention using Auto, note that P ( i P... (show quote)


I guess Nikon 'mistakenly' calls "P" exposure mode "Programmed Auto":

https://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/basics/04/06.htm

... but what do they know?
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Feb 5, 2020 18:56:42   #
JFCoupe wrote:
A possible test for you. Mount your 10-20 on your D500. Set lens to 16 mmm (16 x 1.5 + 24mm equiv.) and take a couple of shots.

Then set the lens to 18-19 mm (28/1.5 = 18.66 mm) Step backwards until you have the same image framing as you had with the lens set at 16 mm. My guess is it will be about 3'-5' distance between the two. Then you know that by stepping back a few feet, you can have the same image with either lens.

Then you can decide if the 1.4 version of either lens has a big difference in cost and what amount of money you want to spend on a 24 or 28 mm f1.4 lens.

Good luck with your testing, decision and purchase plus future image making.
A possible test for you. Mount your 10-20 on your... (show quote)


This is a great idea... set it to 16mm to get a sense of 24mm feels like, and then 18.6mm to get a sense of what 28mm feels like.

Having spent some time looking at the Flickr pages for each lens today, I'm leaning towards the 24mm

Yes, I understand 'zoom with your feet', but in many real-world situations there are physical limitations to this (walls, cliffs, trees, people, etc)... there's also 'crop in post production'.

Anyway, great advice. Thanks for the tip.
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Feb 5, 2020 08:07:01   #
MauiMoto wrote:
Is it the unmatched buttery smooth bokeh that everyone likes? I almost bought it this last Nikon refurbished sale for around $1200, but I got the 105mm micro instead.


I just love this lens. Sure, the bokeh is as promised, and as my first premium prime, I love the experience of shooting within this fixed focal length (I'm on D500, so I guess it's more like a 82mm).

Moreso than the bokeh, I love being able to shoot in low light conditions with no problem whatsoever.

Have picked up the 105mm f1.4 since then, and am equally impressed with it. Have my eyes on the 24mm f1.4 next, though the 28mm f1.4 is also a potential candidate.
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Feb 5, 2020 07:52:52   #
billnikon wrote:
When I was a photojournalist before dirt existed I used two lenses, the Nikon 200 f4 and a 24 2.8. OH, and a Nikon F.
You are cutting hairs between the 24 and 28, I strongly suggest before you buy either of these high quality lenses you go somewhere where you can put them both on your camera and try them out.
To be honest with you, I have owned them both, what do I use now?, the 24 and 28 1.8 E. They are both as sharp and with your D500, a high quality producing ISO camera can easily handle the very low difference in F stops. There just is not that much difference between a 1.8 lens and a 1.4 with todays high quality ISO camera's to justify the price difference. Back in the day when you had ISO Tri-X 400, YES, 1.4 meant something because the alternative was only a 2.8 lens. But today, YOUR THROWING YOUR MONEY AWAY.
And I can get as much bokeh with the 1.8's as I could with the faster versions. Take it from someone who has owned all four, you almost better off with the newer E 1.8 versions. Honestly.
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If someone were to offer you the 1.4 or 1.8, say as a gift where money was of no concern, are you saying you'd rather have the 1.8?

I see a lot of great reviews for the 24mm f1.8, so I guess I'd be foolish to ignore them, but given that I am permitted by my wife to buy one lens per year, and I can afford the 1.4, I'd rather get the most out of my purchase.

Perhaps a better question would be: how has the 4mm difference in focal lengths affected your shooting?
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Feb 5, 2020 07:24:14   #
tcthome wrote:
I would wait for Nikon's next sale which will most likely include the vertical grip if your not in any rush.


Yeah, not in a rush - have seen used D850s in excellent condition popping up for under $2200. Realistically 5-6 months before I buy... and won't buy the 24mm or 28mm until after that. Taking my time to do the research.
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Feb 5, 2020 07:15:36   #
Vince68 wrote:
If you are thinking of buying a D850, Check out this article on the Photography Life website.

https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-resolution

This is Nasim Mansurov's comment regarding the 28mm lens you are considering:
""AF-S NIKKOR 28mm f/1.4E ED (sharpest Nikon F tested, exceeds 36 MP at f/2)""


Hehe, it was this same article that put the 28mm f1.4 on my radar in the first place.
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Feb 4, 2020 22:08:06   #
I have a D500 and will hopefully buy a D850 mid-year.
Mostly looking for something to do landscapes, large buildings, astro, and street photography.

Already have a 10-20mm and the 58mm f1.4G; so looking for something in the gap between.
Don't want a 35mm (have 35mm 1.8 and use it sometimes, but want to get a wider angle f1.4)

Not interested in Sigma/Tamron/etc - not interested in f1.8s

Just would like feedback on the specific lenses mentioned in the title from people who have used these lenses.

My initial thought is 'wider is better', so leaning towards the 24mm, but have read some raving reviews of the 28mm, so thought I'd see what the UH community has to say about these two lenses.

Thanks!
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Jan 31, 2020 08:17:58   #
Fisheye lens - it's a different look, but it will definitely get you right up close to large objects while fitting the entirety of the subject in the frame of your picture. The challenge often becomes keeping things OUT of the picture: including your own feet and other people around you.
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