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Nov 22, 2023 14:43:16   #
dustie wrote:
-- The sizes are too disproportionate for both figures to be actual animals photo'd at the same time, unless the red one farther back is an Amazon plus sized specimen.

-- The color saturations of the red figure do not seem consistent with an illuminated animal. More like a projected light/shadow pattern in vegetation, that is somehow shaped that way, and seen by the camera in that hue.

-- Animals illuminated by infrared lighting recorded by my trail cam do not show in the images as red figures. They are seen as white and shades of gray. Likewise with other infrared trail cam photos I have seen.
Neither the coloring on the buck nor the area in question farther back, are like that in typical infrared trail cam photos I've seen before.

From just this one image, I'm inclined to think lighting/shadows combined to cause a pattern the camera recorded this way. In person, the human eye may not even pick up on the pattern the way the camera lens/sensor/processor detected and recorded it.

None of my previous points are still valid, probably, if there is some type of double exposure of something that involves a change to focal length or camera-to-subject distance.
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It’s interesting that you mention ‘projected light/shadow pattern in vegetation. That area is a wetland or somewhat swampy area with lots of vegetation. The neighbors did not think a real deer would go back there. Thus the idea of an image projecting thru the vegetation seemed interesting. Especially since the red deer does appear to have vegetation on its body.

The question then is, where is the projection coming from? There are solar lights behind the shed that might assist with the projection? The buck is clearly in front bc it blocks out the doe’s legs.

Thx!
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Nov 22, 2023 12:35:27   #
larryepage wrote:
Of course, we are all guessing, since we have not seen the actual installation and situation, but I have a different theory. Many field or trail cameras have infrared sensors to detect tbe presence of animals or other triggers. Some have infrared capture syatems. I'm guessing that this camera has an infrared light source and that the image is from an earlier infrared capture when the deer was in that different spot.


Yes, that does make a lot of sense. We will have to see what the neighbor finds when they look at their memory card images. Thx
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Nov 22, 2023 12:30:50   #
lukevaliant wrote:
i think you nailed it


That is possible bc the image of the buck overlaps the legs of the doe.

It just seems too big for a doe compared to a buck, when the doe is further behind the buck? She should be smaller?

The simplest answer is generally the correct one. Just don’t know if we’ll ever know for sure. We’re asking the neighbor to look at the memory card images. Thx!
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Nov 22, 2023 12:17:05   #
Wingpilot wrote:
Looks to me like it could be a previous image of a deer that didn’t get completely deleted from the card. A ghost image of sorts.


Yes, I am asking them to research the previous photos on their card. Thx!
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Nov 22, 2023 12:14:14   #
JBRIII wrote:
Are there any previous images, before this one in which the red deer was present?
Does not seem likely, but sensors can have after-images. I've read where you can take a photo, the take a second with the camera / sensor in complete darkness and get a dim image of the previous photo. Might be more likely in low light conditions of a trail camera?


Now that is very interesting! The after image idea. I will convey this to my friend and see what their neighbor finds in previous photos. I doubt a red one but maybe a doe pointed in that direction. I do agree with the idea that the red focus light on the field cam is the source of the red color.

Thx!
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Nov 22, 2023 10:37:24   #
Basil wrote:
My opinion, the deer was right there and they just didn't see it because it was dark out. The red flash assist light was just bright enough to illuminated it in the picture.


Thanks! I think I agree with you as it is the most plausible explanation. I think the other items mentioned just muddy the waters. The simplest explanation is generally the correct one.
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Nov 22, 2023 10:19:02   #
Basil wrote:
It looks like the other deer was there and was illuminated, probably by a red focus assist light.


Yes, I was wondering if the red focus assist light might be the culprit. For some reason they are believe the doe was not there. One neighbor wondered if the sculpture of the moose was somehow involved, but it looks like a deer to me and not a moose.

Could the deer have been located somewhere else and not behind the buck? Might it have been reflected from somewhere else, and thus appears behind the buck. The doe seems to be too big in relation to the buck for it just to be there and behind it.
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Nov 22, 2023 08:53:58   #
User ID wrote:
Maybe its really there.


They are positive that it wasn’t there.
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Nov 21, 2023 19:31:08   #
So, a neighbor of a friend, captured a photo of a buck in their backyard with a field camera. What’s strange is the red deer projected behind the buck. It really wasn’t there, but where did it come from? Where did the red coloring in the photo come from? Something to do with field cam lighting to focus?

More info:
The field cam was about 12 feet from the buck.
There’s a small storage garage about 13-14 feet to the right of the buck.
Where the red deer is projected is wetlands.
My friend’s shed is about 15 feet to the left of the buck.
They have solar lights on the other side (backside?) of the shed.
Also on the other side of the shed is a huge wooden Moose sculpture.

At first I thought it had something to do with a reflection or mirrored effect and thought the red light must be from the field cam. However, I wonder about the influence of the wetlands, the solar lights and the Moose sculpture. I know the quality if the field cam photo isn’t very good. I can see the red deer but not the big moose head. Any help figuring out how this photo might have occurred would be appreciated.
When she looks to the left of the red deer, there appears to be the head of the moose but way out of proportion.


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Oct 20, 2023 14:33:07   #
Love 1 and 3. Very nice!
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Oct 18, 2023 09:11:33   #
JohnSwanda wrote:
I control color in several ways. My camera was converted with Lifepixel's Enhanced Color Filter (665). It lets in a mixture of IR and visible light. I use a custom white balance on sunlit green grass. That works for most of my IR captures. I use Nikon NXStudio if I want to tweak white balance as Photoshop/Lightroom is not very good for setting IR WB. It has a eyedropper tool to set WB anywhere in the image. After that I process in Photoshop, setting up the Red/Blue channel swap, and then most of my color adjustment is through a Hue/Saturation layer where I move the sliders for each individual color. I also frequently use a Curves layer to change overall color balance.
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Thx John, I’ll have to look through things. I also had a camera converted by Lifepixel with the Enhanced Color Filter (665). I haven’t tried any processing yet. Have access to Lightroom and Photoshop but not Nikon NXStudio. Will have to look into that as needed. Thx again for the tips!
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Oct 17, 2023 16:15:16   #
I, for one, love them all! The more colorful the better. I so want to be able to create photos like these. Any tips that you can offer a newbie to IR?
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Oct 4, 2023 13:20:38   #
J-SPEIGHT wrote:
We just took it in Saturday. Not many clicks I'm saying 50 or less. Like new in box.


Is the R7 still available?
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Sep 11, 2023 17:36:16   #
Hopefully they just need to update the App a bit to run on the latest iOS. We can keep checking back in hopes it’ll reappear.
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Sep 11, 2023 15:47:12   #
I just went to the App Store and Paintcan is no longer available for iPhones.
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