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Sep 25, 2018 13:35:15   #
NeilL wrote:
A silly statement merits a silly answer. This is a she said... he said case. There is no police report, no credible witness, NOTHING! How would you suggest the FBI manufacture a case from what is available? If I was judge, and yes, I'm not, I would hear BOTH sides, examine BOTH parties' past history, and decide on who is the more t***hful in presentation and answers provided.


My past posts have answered those questions. I'm done.
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Sep 25, 2018 13:32:38   #
Elaine2025 wrote:
This is how you do it. She tells her story, a lawyer asks her questions. He tells his story a lawyer asks him questions, then the committee v**es. Unless of course the dems need to play their political game a little longer.


No Elaine, it would in normal circumstances but these are not normal. The committee is too partisan to trust. You earlier agreed an independent investigation is needed.
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Sep 25, 2018 13:29:54   #
NeilL wrote:
https://www.conservativeinstitute.org/sex-scandals/witness-no-recollection-party.htm?utm_source=boomtrain&utm_medium=automated&utm_campaign=ci1&bt_ee=wp6hEsPzGNlNegFcEyq1ATbUPyM29wfLSo18f47Cnlwyg8abJ8Nyzd/xfK9FEfHN&bt_ts=1537880596982&utm_source=boomtrain&utm_medium=automated&utm_campaign=ci1&bt_ee=kRgMWYaHj5Lv%2B1xXxUYRXTGhoai%2BBIUujtD27ciMcgwl5TXwm7Hx7HNBiUuZ40Bd&bt_ts=1537880596722


Is this hearsay the proof you want to preserve Kavanaugh's reputation and standing in SCOTUS?

It's not good enough, at least it's not for me. This confirmation has become a monkey dung throwing contest. No side is right, no side is non-partisan, no side is conducting themselves respectfully. The "hearing" is useless; let an independent investigation decide who is lying and then prosecute the liars.

I'm repeating myself now.... I'll what I've already posted speak for me.

Let's hope this gets cleared up. God bless America.
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Sep 25, 2018 13:25:36   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
Yes, and if the democrats are able to delay long enough there is a distinct possibility that we may not see a 9th justice until after the 2020 e******n, consider that, then consider the ambush that the democrat senators have laid for this nominee and how it has played out. Had Senator Feinstein been forth coming and had she availed herself of the senate assets available to her it would have been over weeks ago having had the full investigation you are asking for. This all falls back on the democrats and if the republicans do not go ahead with the v**e after the hearing then they too will be held accountable by their base. The only thing that could stop this v**e is if Dr. Ford is able to drop a credible bombshell during the hearing
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And how is that different from what McConnell did to Obama's nominee? OF COURSE this is tit for tat (forgive the pun). Yeah, that is exactly what the democrats are doing and this crap has to be stopped by all partisanship politics. Let the independent investigation proceed even if it delays Kavanaugh's confirmation. Let the liars be identified and prosecuted to the full extent of the law, let it serve as a warning to anyone who may consider this ugly tactic in future confirmation hearings.
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Sep 25, 2018 13:22:44   #
NeilL wrote:
Yes, but that's contrary to the left's agenda, so it can't possibly be true.


No perjury has been committed yet.... come on guys,
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Sep 25, 2018 13:21:48   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
Every witness she has identified, which is everybody that was supposed to be at the party, has stated under penalty of perjury that they have no recollection of the party nor do they recall any such event in which Kavanaugh was involved, what is the point of involving the FBI other than further delay?


Correct me if I am wrong but NO witness she identified has been sworn in so there is no perjury committed.... thus far.
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Sep 25, 2018 13:19:57   #
NeilL wrote:
Pray tell us how they are going to do that as no police report was filed, and we have all the pertinent information available. The FBI has pulled off some amazing crime solving, but I don't think time travel is within their scope.


Don't be silly. Names of those involved are now available.... start the investigation there, they will undoubtedly remember names of others pro or con. All investigations are of past events.... This is not an investigation in support of a criminal trial, it is a vetting and the use of lie detectors is not banned. Just facing that possibility tends to make someone more carefully consider their answers when talking with the FBI.
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Sep 25, 2018 13:16:59   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
Every witness she has identified has said under penalty of perjury that they have no recollection of the party or do they recall any such event in which Kavanaugh was involved, what is the point of involving the FBI other than further delay?


Because the Senate Committee has already proven itself to be fatally partisan. No judgment, regardless of "side" will ever be trusted. An independent investigation is necessary for the benefit of the reputations involved and for SCOTUS when Kavanaugh is confirmed. Otherwise he will be forever a target and example of "bad politics". Take this vetting out of the hands of the Senators. It is the only path to fairness and honesty now available.
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Sep 25, 2018 13:13:23   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Of course I think it is a bit at odds. I did it on purpose to show just how ridiculous your side is at jumping to the same conclusions against Kavanaugh. Look at your side with people like SS calling Kavanaugh a serial rapist. WTF did that come from? All we have is a 17 year old boy POSSIBLY fondling a 15 year old girl 36 years ago, MAYBE. in a few words, who gives a crap. I do not, even if the accuser is 100% correct. Since that time Judge Kavanaugh has made a good life, had a great family, has done remarkable work as an attorney and a judge. So you Liberals would take that all away because of something he did while still in high school. He and his family are getting death threats for God’s sake. Death threats from the Left, your Left. All this when the accuser has a foggy recollection of something that happened when she was most likely drunk 36 years ago. Any idea how she happened to be on a bed in the first place? Don’t you on the Left ever look at the total picture before making rash judgements with NO evidence?

You all whine and b***h about Conservative views of Hillary and why she is not in prison. You scream from the rooftops about NO evidence. Yet while there is little to no evidence against Judge Kavanaugh, you have pretty much taken the accusers word 100% that Kavanaugh attacked her. None of this would ever stand up in a court of law. There is not a District Attorney in the world who would prosecute this case yet you are all ready to hang Kavanaugh.

No wonder Conservatives laugh at your side due to hypocrisy and double standards.

Dennis
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See my comment just above. Your type of posting weakens the possibility of meaningful discussion here in the Attic. It is tacky misrepresentation, gross stereotyping, and boorish name calling. Bring your "A" game to the Attic and the discussions will be more enjoyable.
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Sep 25, 2018 13:11:41   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Isn’t that what I said. Yet almost 100% of you Liberals have taken the accusers word, hook, line and sinker.

Dennis


No, actually it isn't what you said at all. The accusations about Kavanaugh have been made in a formal statement tot he Senate Judicial Committee; the character smears against Ford have not; they're just hearsay and are not on record with the committee.

Also, stop calling me a liberal; just because I don't agree with you does not make me a liberal. You weaken your argument when you blindly stereotype people who you do not agree with.
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Sep 25, 2018 13:07:11   #
NeilL wrote:
They have already performed those checks - six times!


Past vettings did not include the persons identified in these new allegations and they are crucial to confirming or denying Kavanaugh's moral character. Otherwise how can you tell who is lying and who is not..... The vetting must be reopened; past vetting results are now obsolete.
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Sep 25, 2018 12:25:06   #
dennis2146 wrote:
The Senate is trying to do an investigation but the accuser, a staunch Democrat, refuses to submit to questions. Hard to do a one sided investigation of a He Said-She Said controversary. Kavanaugh has said he is ready anytime for questions. Not so, the s**tful accuser.

Dennis


The Senate has proven to be toxically partisan; an independent review is necessary. Also, didn't you just criticize someone for relying on unproven "facts" and or jumping to judgment? Don't you think calling this doctor a s**t is a bit at odds with your criticism of others?
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Sep 25, 2018 12:22:27   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Please get a life. Even the FBI has stated they do not investigate these cases. The Left continues to bring it up, knowing it ain’t going to happen.

Dennis


The FBI has the responsibility to vette all candidates of significant government posts. All that is being requested is that a vetting review be performed given the new allegations otherwise Kavanaugh and by extension, the SCOTUS will be of questioned character for the duration of Kavanaugh's term. The President is in the position of telling the FBI to reopen the review process.
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Sep 25, 2018 12:19:21   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Apparently you believe Kavanaugh’s accusers without any proof at all. My version, withoutbthe same proof, is that the lead accuser was a 15 year old s**t who was drunk and begged everyone at the party to screw her brains out. Kavanaugh did his best to keep others off from her before she was taken advantage of. He should get a medal.

See how these things can work out when we can all offer an unsubstantiated guess as to what happened.

By the way, your upside down f**g for an avatar tells us everything we need to know about your veracity.

Dennis
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Dennis, the former has been voiced by a self-proclaimed victim. The latter has been voiced by no one. Let an independent investigation determine the t***h and let those identified as liars be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Until then it is merely partisan politics which ill serves the country.
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Sep 25, 2018 12:14:21   #
letmedance wrote:
This post is an example of why I quit using Memes.


Every interesting conversation inevitably devolves to that level... ( I wish it didn't )
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