And I am wondering what PROOF you are submitting that I am denying. Commonly held principles and beliefs are often proven wrong. I agree there is climate change. But so far there is no proof that it is caused by man. Give me/us the evidence that it is man made. I am happy to listen. But consider that in the 1930's there was a newspaper comment that the streets of NYC would be flooded. Al Gore has made millions of dollars telling us the very same thing, flooded streets, polar bears dying and so on. But so far not one bit of that is true. Weather forecasters/scientists cannot predict the weather for the oncoming week and yet you want us to believe that your scientists will predict the weather for the next 50 years or so. Sorry but I just don't buy it. Again, prove me wrong. Show me where weather predictors can accurately predict the weather for even the next week or month.

I live in Idaho. When looking at a weather predictor for Idaho Falls last week it showed snow falling for the next few days. A day later the sun was out and no snow with temperatures in the 50's. Now tell me how you are not intelligent enough to look at that and at least wonder where do they get their figures, how can these people predict the weather in years to come when they can't accurately predict for the next week.

I am not trying to give you a hard time but I am damn tired of you Liberals telling me I am stupid all because I don't go along with your claims which you are unable to prove. Your only recourse is to tell me that a whole lot of scientists believe in the very same horse shit theory you believe in. Quantity does not make quality in my experience. You are talking mob rule to go along with Al Gore and he has yet to be proven correct. Yet you on the Left still promote the very same horse shit claims from years ago.

Dennis

It is coming out today in some sources that the Virus deaths should be much lower. Doctors apparently were advised to say the death was caused by the virus when it was actually a heart attack by a person that just tested positive with the virus so the virus was listed as the cause when it had nothing to do with it.
Once we get the true numbers all we see now is just BS. Also comparing the number of cases to Spain is also really stupid seeing as the USA has over 7 times the population as Spain. One needs to multiply the numbers of Spain by over 7 to get a real comparison. Finally some of these field hospitals that were hurriedly set up thus far have remained empty. The Ship to NYC had I believe 20 patients all non-Virus.
Looks like a big scam to me so far.

For all models - garbage in = garbage out.

The climate change models are all garbage as the complex nature of the various and sometimes unknown processes involved and their interactions are very poorly understood. The current models are highly simplified and cannot be used retrospectively to even predict the past. It is clear,however, that CO2 is not a cause for climate change. CO2 rises after a ice age and not before an ice age ends and hence is not the cause of the warming but rather the result.

For infectious diseases there are models for progression of the disease through a population. Because COVID-19 is new, basic parameters such a the probability for death and the probability of being infected are unknown. Of course better estimates are available now as compared to 2 or 3 months ago.

At present 0.001% of humanity has died from COVID-19. About 600 times this number will die from other causes. Poverty from having no job also causes early death.

From your last paragraph I have to ask, Is that why President Trump pulled America OUT of the Climate Change Accord? I haven't seen any evidence that he is embracing the man made climate change that you seem to believe in.

But then again I have asked this one question numerous times here and have never once received any reply. I ask you.

Let's say we all go along with the theory that climate change is totally man made and we all clamor to donate our money to the good people who will save us. With me so far? What will be done with the Trillions of dollars given by each country (most of course from America who I believe does the least damage compared to China and other countries) to enable a positive change to Mother Earth??? I will be right here.

Dennis

So you think that the only scientists that are wrong, are the ones that disagree with you. And that’s greater than 99% of all climate scientists.
But don’t worry about spending the trillions of dollars that are necessary if we want to clean up the garbage we are putting into the atmosphere, the land, and our waters. We just spent it on what many of you right wingers called “no worse than the common cold”, “it’s just the flu folks”.
Currently, this ‘common cold’ is killing greater than 2% of all that have tested positive. The flu kills less than .1% of those tested, except when there is a novel flu virus like the Spanish flu, the 1957 strain, and H1N1.
Anyhow, one way or another our children & grandchildren are going to pay both for COVID19 and environmental mess we are leaving them.
The difference is, my grandkids will know I am doing everything I can to leave them a better world, and you are doing whatever you can to make things worse.