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Dec 18, 2011 18:37:14   #
photocat wrote:
Metering is the act of using the in camera meter or a hand held meter to determine some suggestions as to shutter speed/fstop combination to make an exposure that you feel is the correct one.

Until you get to LF cameras , modern day cameras have a built in light meter. You set the ISO of the film/digital your using . Determine if you want to use your camera in manual mode, or a priority mode. With the priority modes, pick a value and the meter will fill in the blank so to speak.

Meters vary from camera to camera and altho, they are very good at what they do, it is still just a recommendation, not an absolute.

Give google a run and you will probably find more information you expect.
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Thanks photocat! I will go at Google. I will also print what you have told me and try to figure him out. I don't know if all the info I am gathering I will need, but I very much want to understand what are people saying! what I am getting, I am writing down and hopefully it'll stick one day!
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Dec 18, 2011 18:20:29   #
Buckeye914 wrote:
I still use a Canon AE-1 Program which is in great condition. Film is definitely more fun and challenging. I hope to always use it some even though I have moved to a Nikon D5100 as a main camera.


But what is metering? Like I told someone else, I am not acting out with questions. 1990 my brain lost a lot in stroke and I need to know. What is gone, I want to try and get back. So I apologize, but I still want to know what is it? Thanks, Buckeye
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Dec 18, 2011 18:07:23   #
Roger Hicks wrote:
Yes. Most of my site (see signature) deals with what I persist in regarding as 'real' photography, despite the fact that I also use digital a lot. My oldest camera is between 100 and 120 years old (Gandolfi Universal)and I have literally dozens of film cameras that see varying degrees of use. From 'Welcome to Film', http://www.rogerandfrances.com/subscription/ps%20film%20welcome.html

"Once upon a time, when the world was young, the vast majority of photographers shot only black and white and colour was a novelty, so there were numerous books and magazine articles on how to make the transition to the new medium. Later, when colour was fully established and digital imaging was a novelty, there came a spate of books and articles about how to adapt to digital photography; a flood that has not yet abated. But we are hearing from more and more photographers who have acquired an interest in photography via digital imaging, and are wondering why so many people still use film. In short, for many, traditional film has become the novelty.

There are no books and precious few articles for those who want to go from digital to film: surprisingly few editors are far-sighted enough to publish them. Well, we still use film, and here is why, garnered from our own experience and that of others who have never stopped; or have gone back to film after trying digital; or who, after growing up on digital, have decided to use film either alongside or instead of digital. "

Cheers,

R.
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Go to second hand or use bookstores for the literature. I have many of all kind. Unfortunately, what I read of this, my brain won't process that any more, and I need help. I am happy to share what I have. Merry Christmas y'all! Buckeye
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Dec 18, 2011 18:02:01   #
RockinRobinG wrote:
snowbear wrote:
One thing using film does is make you slow down and think about the shot.

Since I can't get the old batteries, the last time I used my Minolta, I took the D40 along to meter.


Check with a local jewelry store for batteries.


Don't know what battery using your camera. My Olympus is using right now 2L76, Energizer. Normally I use the Duracell both for camera and for hearing aid. If I get stuck on camera battery, I just use 2 h/a stack up.Rarely use h/a any more so gotta keep camera battery. If that or similar is what you need, go to a Walgreen or other that sell these type batteries. Good luck about them!
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Dec 18, 2011 17:14:11   #
Black Unicorn wrote:
:oops: Best way to ruin anything is to leave old batteries in them when not in use!!!!!!! Be aware. :XD:


Unicorn you got that totally right! Good way to damage hearing aids, cameras, whatever!dead batts all by they self are easy anc cheap to replace. Not so with cameras, hearing aids and such.
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Dec 18, 2011 17:05:03   #
richard.waldron wrote:
Here is a story to illustrate an important point about film capture:
I decided to use my Mamiya 645 super recently, so took it to the local camera store to get a new battery.
The assistant was wowed and wanted to buy the camera from me. (He is 19 and I am 72). I asked why he was so keen. He said he always shot film because, once you developed and scanned the film at high resolution, you have the same result as a VERY expensive medium format digital, but at a fraction of the cost. You are scanning the full frame size of the film, not capturing to a smaller sensor with associated pixellation.
What a revelation, but he is of course right!
There are labs that develop and scan the film to digitised images at various pixel counts. Obviously the higher the count the better the image for scaling quality - and the more cost of course. But again compare with buying a medium format Mamiya Rz67 Professional Pro Ii "d" Medium Format camera at $2,303.00!!!!
I have to use a meter with the Mamiya but there is no need to bracket since a slight variation in exposure can be corrected on the digital TIFF image. (Do not get film scanned to jpeg since all tinkering of jpegs will denegrate the quality each time it is saved).
I also have an Olympus OM2 35mm with accurate metering.
Film can be kept a long time by storing in a fridge. I have some that is years old and that I kept refridgerated.
If there is a return to film use by afficianados, the manufacturers will respond to demand and the demise of film will not happen.
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Hello. I have Olympus OM10 since 1979. What is metering?
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Dec 18, 2011 16:59:01   #
George H wrote:
rivernan wrote:
I have a vivitar I just pulled out of the closet and even found a roll of film. But that thing is so darn heavy. Solid metal. Had a cool little light meter inside with a needle to center. Also had a nice little round battery that I think I changed all of three times in about 10 years of use. Keep thinking I should go out with it. Maybe one of these days.


Rivernan,
Don't forget about Radio Shack, they have lots of batteries, they sell all the batteries I need for my Nikonos Vs and that camera is over 20 years old.

Have a very Merry Christmas.

George
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Oh THANKS! I DO forget Radio Shack. My camera use battery like the old hearing aid, but it use a double size of it. Years ago, when I still wore hearing aid, my camera battery went out. Where ever I was, I just put 2 h/a batts stacked on each other and it worked. Not as good as the real thing, but works when needed. Don't wear the h/a now, so gotta keep on my toes with batteries!
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Dec 18, 2011 16:52:43   #
snowbear wrote:
I have a Minolta Hi-matic 7s 35mm rangefinder that works, The hotshoe needs to be replaced and the meter doesn't work because I can't get mercury batteries.

I also have a Nikon F90 that is on indefinite load to my youngest son, and a Nikon N90s (updated North American version of F90) that I use regularly.

It is possible to use modern dSLRs in all-manual mode and forgo post processing.


OK. Just gotta flasn my ignorance----"It is possible...."--what do you mean? I have Olympus OM-10 since 1979. I just do what I know how to do. Find a pic, get him in the focus, and shoot. Hope for the best. I know there is more I can do, but don't know what or how. Sorry.........
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Dec 18, 2011 16:43:58   #
English_Wolf wrote:
Hello everyone.

It took me a bit more time to reload this PC (I have not finished yet) but I was interrupted by my better half who wanted to go out and see the city Christmas light, so I did. Good excuse no?

WildBill Sorry to hear that you were banned for your opinion(s) -or taking flak for the way you express yourself (I do all the time). If there is a shame, it is not on you. If there is a loss it is shared because they will never get to hear the other side of the story and you will never be able to learn from them either.

I just realized that I thought we were a different day!!!* Which means that one does not need medicine to think weird things and make mistakes. Don't worry about the errors, I make so many I would me really an idiot to call anyone on their spelling!!!

That make me think... Can I place the 'grammar/spelling police' in my s*** list? PLEEEEASE! I need someone to greet in there!

Let me know your thoughts about it because I would gleefully add them in there!!!

Otherwise, I am getting worried about my dog, she has more and more problems to get up. She still has a solid appetite and still greets me everyday with that damned wagging tail (ask my wife about her decorations that went flying off the coffee table - I WAS YELLED AT - for playing with the dog near a dangerous booby trapped table).

Life is good as usual. I am lucky to see it as such. Taking everything for granted is just too easy.

We have a small bunny in the yard and it leaves deposits of a giant hare in huge piles. I am getting tired of it (have to clean it along with the dog's mines). I guess a roasted rabbit will be on the menu in a couple of months.

Other than that I have very little to say (???).

Hello all (again) take care of yourselves. If you are in difficulty take comfort knowing that many care even if away and do not know you.

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* I sent a PM to someone apologizing for taking so long to answer a question when it was asked today!!! :shock:
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No apology necessary! I got your message, and i answered it, but not a good answer, i think. Pretty sure I owe the apology!
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Dec 18, 2011 16:18:52   #
imntrt1 wrote:
1941Buckeye wrote:
Country's Mama wrote:
rivernan wrote:
I let my hair grow grey at 42
My friends all said whats up with you
I quite my job at 53
Then they said are you crazy
my dad left this world at 59
So im pretty happy to have whats mine.


Makes you think. I am fully aware that life can change in a blink of an eye. Like the country song says "Live like you were dying"
I am an 8 year bone marrow transplant survivor. Nine years in June. I decided then and there that I was going to live the rest of my life to the fullest. No excuses for not crossing off the things on my bucket list. You never know when God is going to tap you on the shoulder and call you home.
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Oh Girl, you got that SO RIGHT!! I am 2 brain tumors and a large stroke following the 1st one in '90. Before I could figure out language, I figured out that it would be ok to do what the Docs said to do. BUT, when Docs and all would say "Don't do...", "you can't..." I figured out they don't have a clue "you can't" because none of them are stroke people! So I went about trying whatever there was to try before I got to leave the hosp (almost 2 mo), and after I got home. I bet you figure the same thing out! We just gotta do what we just gotta do!!!
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My body has tried to plant me several times and I just stay alive to tick my enemies off. 13 year survivor of throat cancer. 7 year survivor of a burst brain aneurysm and skin caner on my head and neck about 6 times - I recently had a hernia operation and went to the Doctor for follow up by riding over on my motorcycle - that raised the Doctors eye brows };-) My Neurosurgeon told me it was okay to drive 3 months after my brain surgery - I had already been driving for two months by that time. Whoever said that they often don't know what they are talking about is spot on if they haven't been there themselves. We each heal differently and I know I have been on borrowed time for years, but I have taken multi-thousand mile motorcycle trips and plan next year to build my own airplane so I can take some photos from a different perspective. Places like this website inspire me. I don't want people to look down on me in a casket and say that "I look good" I want to look exhausted and used up.
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Say! I been lookin' for a hero...Welcome! Welcome!! I took some bad advice when we came here, so now I gotta get a vehicle. I want another VW van. It's a big country with LOTS of beauty and wonder between here (Oregon) and there(Ohio) and I need to get back at it! I've always been fascinated with the old US 40--not just the road, but the wonderful history of him. Got to finish what I started. Exhausted and use up is definitely the ticket!!!
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Dec 18, 2011 15:54:15   #
Photoman74 wrote:
Photoman74 wrote:
1941Buckeye wrote:
Photoman74 wrote:
Sorry about your ears - the loss of one strengthens others, you're eye may allow you an advantage. Photography is the light - not sound. As the British say stiff upper lip. an American said if life gives you lemons ---- Beethoven was deaf. Go for it.
Oh Thanks, but don't feel bad about my ears! I am Deaf so long I can't remember what hearing is like. So i don't miss it! Have you seen "Deaf Artists in America; colonial to comtemporary" 400+ pages, by Deborah M. Sonnenstrahl? A totally photography biography is one of my favorite: Maggie Lee Sayer who has a wonderful book she called "Deaf Maggie Lee Sayer; Photographs of a River Life" (1995) Sonnenstrahl's book is awesome (she was my art history prof at Gallaudet) and I have a copy of Sayer's book also--It's terriffic! She always called herself Deaf Maggie Lee Sayer!
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No - But I'll look now
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- Is now used as a very special shot camera-Retired - $ film & process hurts - Poloroid was used to check shot before digital now use digital then film if good shot.
Old faithful for Quality
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What a grand camera! Look like you still using him? Good! I have many old cameras and I am starting now to see what I have that I can use. My "working" camera is my 30+ yr. old Olympus OM-10.I might need to bring him to a camera doctor, I'm not sure yet. What is the name your "Retired"?
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Dec 18, 2011 15:13:01   #
birdie wrote:
The last of these is "spirits in the wind" it was a challenge quilt. In which I had to use the brightly colored horses (fabric) that was a think think think process before i came up with the idea. My idea was that this is an Indian boy who wanted to capture a horse of his own and was sitting up there praying to the gods for an opportunity to do that. Some people interpret it as an Indian girl who' s husband or lover had ridden away on a hunt or war party and had never returned. She was praying to get a glimpse of him as the horses raced across the sky. I always invite people to make their own story . Some will some won't.
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Birdie--the spirits in the wind is totally awesome! Thanks for sharing this and the others---
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Dec 18, 2011 14:37:04   #
JimH wrote:
1941Buckeye wrote:
What is Temporal Distortion?
A fancy term for time-lapse or high speed photography.

Temporal = time
Distortion = not normal


Thanks jimh!I'm making a take-along notebood with my qq and the lovely answers I get with who from. With any luck, before I'm 75 I'll know something! The front of the little book is about "shutter speed'/camera settings. All this 'takes some doin'" as my folks use to say, but with the lovely helping with y'all people, I may finally succeed!
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Dec 18, 2011 14:11:15   #
JimH wrote:
1941Buckeye wrote:
What is micro-blog?
It's a very tiny blog... :)

The 'My Pages' feature allows you to compose a page of whatever content you like and then make it available to other members of the UHH universe. Such as my "Lens Primer", noted below on my signature line, and one of the two pages listed in "User Pages" on my profile.

The difference between a user page and a regular thread or post in one of the categories is that it stays around, and all you need to do is direct people to it somehow.
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Thanks! Stroke brain is a large screw-up most days, and almost constantly annoying with photography.
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Dec 18, 2011 05:31:40   #
johnr9999 wrote:
Ronny wrote:
A language is a method of communication, either spoken or written, consisting of words in a structured and conventional way.
It looks very simple, but in general people have made it difficult, because many forget that the language should help another to understand what was told to her/him.
I am originally from the Netherlands and because the Dutch language is like Chinese from Europe, we all had to learn 4 languages. Beside Dutch it is English (British), French and German. I am able to survive also with the Indonesian language.
Due to my engineering background I have lived and work in many parts of the world.
Today my home is California outside LA.
All my writing and comments are done using word, because even between British English and American English is sometimes a big difference.
Especially the spoken words are a pain in the rear. Again a language is a way to make another understand what you want to say. But I have a very hard time to understand the folks in the mid and south of the US. I wonder how these folks write their English.
The second problem I have is with all the abbreviations especially here in America.
Communication is making yourself understand to others.
I pay little attention to misspelled words, understanding is more important.
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Ronny, I wholeheartedly agree with your observations with two exceptions. If you look at the two entries above yours regarding pronunciation of certain words, I believe these are due to not being able to spell these words. Correct spelling lends to correct communications. Incorrect spelling leads to incorrect spelling leads to incorrect spelling leads to confusion. We communicate by agreement of meaning and spelling.
As far as abbreviations are concerned, I agree we have abbreviations that lend nothing to communications, but having come from a medical, electronics and computer background, abbreviations serve as a short-hand to facilitate communications. I don't think there is a medical person in the U.S. (another abbreviation) that doesn't understand what ASA, PRN or QD means or a computer person that doesn't know what TCP/IP means. Outside these communities it merely seems to say "look how smart I am!".
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Hello I am enjoying your message here. But you have left off one other form of language; there is written, spoken, and signed. And every place in the world has a sign language. With English, the American and the British are extremely different. Canadian SL is like American, but the British is a whole different deal! Ours follows the French in many ways. That, of course, was a political deal way back then. The languages you grew up with are interesting. I grew up with Spanish, Cajun French, and "all over the country" English, then ASL. And I agree totally--understanding is everything!
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