DSLR vs Mirrorless (Page 6): You're correct, it was a typo. Sry.

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DeanS wrote:

I think the fully grown R has the same sensor as the MkIV, not the MkII. I think the sensor in the RP, which I obtained Wed, is the same as the 7D Mk II. I could be mistakek, however.

You're correct, it was a typo. Sry.

khorinek

The eos rp is the same as the 6D Mark II

DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina

khorinek wrote:

The eos rp is the same as the 6D Mark II

I stand corrected - makes sense, since the 7D II is a cropped sensor. My goof (I blame it im faulty memory chip in my head.)

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

DW wrote:

I’ve been doing some research, just interested in what you fine folks think. If money were no object and you were buying your first full-frame camera, would it be a DSLR or mirrorless? I’m looking at the D850 but just comparing it to the Z7.

For me, a no brainer/no contest - MIRRORLESS - the new S lenses alone make it imperative ! - plus the EVF.

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mdoing

I have read through the rants about mirrorless vs. DSLR with amusement. It really is a funny argument. We should consider ourselves blessed to have the time and privilege of arguing over something like this. Both sides and the middle have great points.

I recently changed form Canon crop sensor DSLR to Panasonic M43 mirrorless. I love the new Panasonic but I also loved the DSLR. I miss my 28-300L lens! I miss seeing the real world through the view finder. I love the lighter weight, I love the EVF for other reasons, the G9 EVF is really great but not real life, close! I gave my Canon gear to my son, wish I had both but then I'd always be confused about which camera to bring, too many decisions! I'm glad he is having fun with it chasing the northern lights in Alaska, he is young and strong, light weight not an issue for him.

Mirrorless is the future but no EVF will ever be quite the same as seeing the real world through your prism. Alas!

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imagemeister wrote:

For me, a no brainer/no contest - MIRRORLESS - the
new S lenses alone make it imperative ! - plus the EVF.

Except for the lenses, I'd do the same.

I don't actually need newer, or "better",
lenses and any brand of LV camera will
use the zillion fine lenses now on hand.

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IDguy Loc: Idaho

Gene51 wrote:

I like mirrorless, but shoot Nikon DSLR (D800, D810). That being said, if I were to obtain a mirrorless camera it would have to be a Sony full frame. There is nothing to not like about it. The selection of lenses is getting better as well.

I've been a Nikon shooter since 1967, but I am not married to the brand. If someone makes a better product I will buy it and use it - be it lens or camera body.

You evidently haven’t expierenced the Sony programming approach. It sucks for a Nikon shooter.

IDguy Loc: Idaho

Oly Guy wrote:

Yes electronic viewfinders are weak compared to pentaprism ones for me-DSLRs are sweet although there is the weight factor-I find the camera sling is slick for walking with a DSLR for shorter hikes also-I have a olympus OMd5 and all the lenses but keep going back to my d7200 or d3400 or d600.

Nonsense. The EVF in the Zs is far superior.

The thing I don’t like about my Z6 is the dirt on the sensor, which they advise against wet cleaning. Thinking of dumping it for that.

gwilliams6

Oly Guy wrote:

I reason DSLR-pick it up get the lightest model put a light lens on-and look through the viewfinder-cameras off and you see through the lens-thats the difference for me -turn it on and shoot 3 shots before the mirrorless even focuses.I have shake and it makes speed important-refocus is also much quicker for me with the DSLR. I feel the depth of field is better in general with the DSLR.Am I biased? Yes I am!

So totally wrong, the EVF of a mirrorless camera is ALSO seeing through the lens, as the lens projects the image on the image sensor, DUH. The best mirrorless cameras are almost instant on now, and they can focus as fast or faster than any top DSLR. Take the Sony A9 for example, it can make 60 autofocus changes and 60 exposure calculations per second and shoot 20 frames-per-second. No other DSLR can even approach this autofocus speed or fps for a fullframe camera.

Depth of field is controlled by three factors: lens aperture, lens focal length, and distance from camera to subject. The same laws apply whether you use a DSLR or mirrorless camera.

It is ok to have a difference of opinion but it is ridiculous when folks make statements that are totally false. Please do your homework first.

https://vimeo.com/10557009
Cheers.

markhawthorne

If money was no object, I would have the finest DSLR and the finest mirrorless. I am currently using my Canon EOS M50 and while it is certainly not the best mirrorless on the market, I am truly enjoying it. The viewfinder seems to work just fine for my needs and I enjoy the smaller size of the camera. My DSLR hasn't been used for a couple of months as I have been learning the ins and outs of the M50 but I certainly intend to keep it. It produced some fine photos for me.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

mdoing wrote:

I have read through the rants about mirrorless vs.... (show quote)

I love my Nikons and I love my new Panasonic. I might consider getting rid of the Nikon stuff if the MFT stuff could better fill my needs for wildlife work. There’s just no lens to match my 150-600, so I’ll probably be looking at adding a D500 body soon instead of a G9.

davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.

SuperflyTNT wrote:

I love my Nikons and I love my new Panasonic. I might consider getting rid of the Nikon stuff if the MFT stuff could better fill my needs for wildlife work. There’s just no lens to match my 150-600, so I’ll probably be looking at adding a D500 body soon instead of a G9.

I think Panasonic’s 100-400 is equivalent to 800 mm full frame and if your 600 mm is a crop sensor it is equivalent to about 900 mm just about even!

LMurray Loc: North Orange County, CA

DW wrote:

I’ve been doing some research, just interested in what you fine folks think. If money were no object and you were buying your first full-frame camera, would it be a DSLR or mirrorless? I’m looking at the D850 but just comparing it to the Z7.

Money was no object in the 70's when I had the choice of a Leica rangefinder or a Nikon FSLR specifically an FM, In the same situation today I'd still choose an SLR but now a DSLR. Personally I think mirrorless is fad like so many things that come along, seem like a good idea and then fade into obscurity.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

LMurray wrote:

Money was no object in the 70's when I had the choice of a Leica rangefinder or a Nikon FLSR specifically an FM, In the same situation today I'd still choose an SLR but now a DSLR. Personally I think mirrorless is fad like so many things that come along, seem like a good idea and then fade into obscurity.

What is it about mirrorless that makes you think it’s a fad? It looks like the future to most of us. What do you see that we don’t?

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

davyboy wrote:

I think Panasonic’s 100-400 is equivalent to 800 mm full frame and if your 600 mm is a crop sensor it is equivalent to about 900 mm just about even!

I dunno. I like to see someone do a comparison between the D500 and G9 on focus speed on moving objects and also low light performance.