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Mar 22, 2019 12:03:21   #
LS Loc: Montana
 
I am not techy enough to be comfortable attempting all that!! Glad it worked for you...

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Mar 22, 2019 13:19:40   #
Langleydc Loc: Alva fla.
 
Hi; I am an Aperture user. All my photos are there. I am using external hard drives as back up. But someone told me if I upgrade to Mojave operating system it won't accept Aperture and I can lose everything. You always seem to know a lot. If you could let me know know before I mess things up.

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Mar 22, 2019 15:17:29   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
FredCM wrote:
A big aggravation with my upgrade was Mojave threw away about 1/2 of my email contact addresses. Like when for JoeBlow@AOL.com, all I had to do is type Jo and the mail app would finish the address for you. So there are some people I lost contact with. Not a major deal, but a major aggravation. Mojave won't let me run GIMP directly because I didn't get it from the App Store (which doesn't carry GIMP anyway), I have jump through a couple of hoops. Photos is improved but still insists on its own order for the folder with all the pictures, an order that seems to be by date but it's not 100%.
A big aggravation with my upgrade was Mojave threw... (show quote)


I think the Security and Privacy Control Panel settings can fix the Gimp issue. There is some setting that you make the first time you install software that is not "signed". If you try to run an App and the OS won't let you, go there and look for a note about, "You tried to do this, but the application is not signed." What do you want to do?" (or something vaguely to that effect). I don't remember the exact text, but I've had to do that a time or two with obscure apps.

Photos is a toy. It's a good social media tool, tightly integrated with the rest of the Apple ecosystem, but it drives me crazy. I use the Adobe Suite instead.

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Mar 22, 2019 16:54:59   #
Larry Powell Loc: Columbus OH
 
I have never had any issues with upgrading Mac OS. I have used Macs since 1993.

Personally, I think it is a good move by Apple to move to 64 bit only as most software companies are providing updates to 64 at no cost. Support for newer technology is always better than living in the past. If one is still running 32 bit apps they are suffering.

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Mar 22, 2019 17:42:30   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
First, I would not worry about Mojave's warnings about old stuff not running eventually. How likely is it that Adobe will not have any old 32-bit hunks upgraded to the 64-bits that the next (after Mojave) OS will require.
As for losing stuff, back up everything on an external hard drive. Install Mojave. If something you need is "gone," get it from your backup.
There may be a few glitches, such as the need to update printer drivers or software if you do not have the latest version. Usually for me (who tries to keep everything updated, not always successfully), it was a day or two of work, then the freedom and power of the the OS.
Use a professional to do the installation? Check the price. If you can afford it, it will definitely make your life easier, somewhat or a lot.
Finally slow internet will figure in. Do it overnight.

Best of luck. In the early days of computing, the wisdom was do not update immediately, but wait one or two. Eventually, that became a problem. Now, I update everything as it's presented. Much easier and less time-consuming.

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Mar 22, 2019 18:45:17   #
LS Loc: Montana
 
As for losing stuff, back up everything on an external hard drive. Install Mojave. If something you need is "gone," get it from your backup.

I have a back up on time machine, but because that disk was nearly full I began a backup to a different drive. It said it would take 7 hours, which I expected, and I checked on it every so often. It was crawling along until sometime after it had been doing it’s thing for about 3 hours and suddenly it said it was done! How do I trust that everything is actually backed up? It is a WD My book 6 T drive and had about 600 GB of photos to back up.

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Mar 22, 2019 19:05:26   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
LS wrote:
As for losing stuff, back up everything on an external hard drive. Install Mojave. If something you need is "gone," get it from your backup.

I have a back up on time machine, but because that disk was nearly full I began a backup to a different drive. It said it would take 7 hours, which I expected, and I checked on it every so often. It was crawling along until sometime after it had been doing it’s thing for about 3 hours and suddenly it said it was done! How do I trust that everything is actually backed up? It is a WD My book 6 T drive and had about 600 GB of photos to back up.
As for losing stuff, back up everything on an exte... (show quote)


First, Time Machine will begin deleting the oldest stuff from your backup drive as the drive gets full. I wondered if maybe I'd lose something important, but after seeing how far back things went, decided to let Time Machine begin deleting.

As for your experience with a backup to another drive, I do not trust time estimates. If you want to check that everything was backed up, compare the files (I usually just look at the folders) of each with the other.

Good luck.

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Mar 22, 2019 19:16:21   #
cygone Loc: Boston
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'm a real user. I had no problems with migration to Mojave. However...

I bought a brand new SSD. I did surgery on my iMac and installed it (and doubled RAM to 16GB while in there).

I put the old startup drive in an external USB 3 connected enclosure, and booted the iMac from the external drive (just hold down OPTION at startup until you see a menu of available drives).

I downloaded the Mac OS 10.14.3 Mojave installer from Apple's web site to the old startup drive.

I used the installer to format the new drive as an APFS volume.

I installed a VIRGIN copy of Mac OS Mojave onto the new internal drive.

I rebooted the iMac to the new 2 TB SSD and used Apple Migration Assistant (from the Utilities folder in the Applications folder of the new drive) to move all my files and compatible software from the old startup drive over to the new one.

I upgraded or updated all the software to the latest versions. I deleted a couple of programs that won't run on Mojave (I still have them on the old startup drive, should I need them).

I did need to have handy my Apple ID and Password for iCloud/iTunes/App Store access.

I did need to have handy my Adobe ID and Password to reconnect the Creative Cloud app and Photography Bundle apps.

I did need to have handy my Microsoft ID and Password to register Office 365.

All the apps I ever bought on the App Store, that are still available and 64-bit clean, got updated (I turned on Auto Update).

I did have to manually update Firefox, VLC, Handbrake, SilkyPix Developer Studio, Graphic Converter 10, my Epson apps, Kindle Reader, Acrobat Reader DC, and a few utilities...

Once I had everything updated, I plugged in a new 2TB conventional hard drive and backed up EVERYTHING with Time Machine.

My system is ROCK SOLID. And it FEELS many times faster than it did when new.

I still get some nag dialogs about 32-bit apps "not being optimized for my computer", but I'm sure the developers will address them, one way or another, before Mac OS 10.15 (yet to be named) comes out this Fall.
I'm a real user. I had no problems with migration ... (show quote)


Who's got time for that. I'm retired and have better things to do than fiddle f@$t with a computer. I just hit the update button and went to sleep. And it runs fine. And if it doesn't I'll get another MBP. And then I'll throw this one out the window ......preferably from the third floor attic.

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Mar 22, 2019 20:01:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cygone wrote:
Who's got time for that. I'm retired and have better things to do than fiddle f@$t with a computer. I just hit the update button and went to sleep. And it runs fine. And if it doesn't I'll get another MBP. And then I'll throw this one out the window ......preferably from the third floor attic.


I have time. I enjoy making better use of what I have, so I can help put my twins through college.

I did much the same surgery on my son’s MacBook Pro a few weeks ago. It was slow as molasses before. Now it is more than usable. It’s quite fast!

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Mar 22, 2019 20:47:01   #
prembetsy
 
CS5.1 will not be recognized by Mojave all the time ... MAc considers 5.1 too old, Adobe wants you to pay for a newer edition...

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Mar 22, 2019 21:26:36   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
prembetsy wrote:
CS5.1 will not be recognized by Mojave all the time ... MAc considers 5.1 too old, Adobe wants you to pay for a newer edition...


They never have played by Apple’s development rules. If they had, 5.1 would probably still work.

That said, CS 5 truly is ancient history in the tech world. It’s about nine years old.

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Mar 22, 2019 22:15:50   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
LS wrote:
I Need to upgrade my operating system so I can take Advantage of raw processing on my Nikon D850. I have Questions and Apple sends me to Adobe then Adobe sends me to Apple...Frustrating! Several “experts “ Recommend not going directly from the old OS to the new since there are several in between. Others say it is fine to go directly from Mavericks to Mojave. My other question is what happens to all the files and folders I have stored in bridge if adobe no longer supports my older versions of Photoshop and bridge? Is there a new version of bridge that comes along with the new version of Photoshop? I currently Use Photoshop CS 5.1 extended and the bridge version that goes with it, 5.1
I Need to upgrade my operating system so I can tak... (show quote)


Maverick? That is ages ago. What year and model is your Mac? Will it even run Mojave?

It’s very time consuming to upgrade in steps why bother with that if your machine will run Mojave?

Any programs no longer supported by Adobe under Mojave won’t work after you upgrade the OS.

But you have a full backup of your system that you are going to refresh just prior to the upgrade so if there are big problems you can restore the computer back to the old state. You DO have a backup, right? ?? If not then get that in place FIRST before you do any upgrading of the OS.

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Mar 22, 2019 22:42:11   #
jrm21
 
It's been mentioned by others but bears repeating... BACKUP before upgrading.

Time Machine is a good way to go because if something goes wrong you can restore your system from that backup relatively easy. (There are other methods which are also good).

You should also run "Disk Utility" on your drive prior to backing up. That can fix any minor problems that can turn major during a backup.

Been using Apple products since 1990. Never had a problem upgrading until the past 18 months. In that time I have had TWO system updates go bad, rendering my computer useless. The TM backup was a lifesaver both times. Allowed me to bring my system back to the same state it was just prior to the upgrade.

That said, you should also have backups of any important files on a separate media (different HD, Optical media, etc.). I don't keep any important files on my boot drive. While rare, there have been situations where a system upgrade has caused a disk failure. (Technically, the update doesn't cause the failure, just somehow magnifies an existing issue on a disk that's almost ready to fail).

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Mar 22, 2019 23:11:29   #
LS Loc: Montana
 
That said, CS 5 truly is ancient history in the tech world. It’s about nine years old.[/quote]

I realize it’s vintage, but I am kind of a “if it ain’t broke why fix it” kind of a gal, and I happened to have everything I needed with what I had. At least that was true until my dream camera came along.

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Mar 22, 2019 23:22:06   #
LS Loc: Montana
 
[quote=JD750]Maverick? That is ages ago. What year and model is your Mac? Will it even run Mojave?

Late 2013. (When you are old like me 5 years seems like yesterday.) Yes, supposedly.

It’s very time consuming to upgrade in steps why bother with that if your machine will run Mojave?

Research indicates there would likely be fewer problems.

Any programs no longer supported by Adobe under Mojave won’t work after you upgrade the OS

Yes I know and that is a concern.

But you have a full backup of your system that you are going to refresh just prior to the upgrade so if there are big problems you can restore the computer back to the old state. You DO have a backup, right? ?? If not then get that in place FIRST before you do any upgrading of the OS.[/quote

Of course

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