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Mar 21, 2019 13:32:44   #
LS Loc: Montana
 
I Need to upgrade my operating system so I can take Advantage of raw processing on my Nikon D850. I have Questions and Apple sends me to Adobe then Adobe sends me to Apple...Frustrating! Several “experts “ Recommend not going directly from the old OS to the new since there are several in between. Others say it is fine to go directly from Mavericks to Mojave. My other question is what happens to all the files and folders I have stored in bridge if adobe no longer supports my older versions of Photoshop and bridge? Is there a new version of bridge that comes along with the new version of Photoshop? I currently Use Photoshop CS 5.1 extended and the bridge version that goes with it, 5.1

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Mar 21, 2019 14:03:05   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
LS wrote:
I Need to upgrade my operating system so I can take Advantage of raw processing on my Nikon D850. I have Questions and Apple sends me to Adobe then Adobe sends me to Apple...Frustrating! Several “experts “ Recommend not going directly from the old OS to the new since there are several in between. Others say it is fine to go directly from Mavericks to Mojave. My other question is what happens to all the files and folders I have stored in bridge if adobe no longer supports my older versions of Photoshop and bridge? Is there a new version of bridge that comes along with the new version of Photoshop? I currently Use Photoshop CS 5.1 extended and the bridge version that goes with it, 5.1
I Need to upgrade my operating system so I can tak... (show quote)


The new Adobe subscription model bundles Bridge with Lightroom CC, Lightroom CLASSIC CC, Photoshop, ACR, and several other goodies, all for as little as $9.99 a month. GOOD NEWS: Everything runs locally, it's always up to date, and you can quit subscribing for a while and go back to it later. You should be able to import all your old images, catalogs, etc.

While you CAN move directly from Mavericks (10.9) to Mojave (10.14), you will maximize performance and get rid of a lot of crud if you install Mojave on a NEW drive, and then use Macintosh Migration Assistant (in your Utilities folder) to bring everything you want over to the new startup drive. You will need all your account numbers, serial numbers, passwords, license codes and keys, etc. for all your software, but if it runs on Mojave, it will transfer. Do be prepared to upgrade some applications that Mojave breaks!

Be sure you go to Apple's site and find out whether your Mac can RUN Mojave. If it's older than about 7 years, probably not, but there are exceptions.

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Mar 21, 2019 14:27:35   #
LS Loc: Montana
 
Thank you ...It has been determined that my Mac can run it, but I will not be brave enough to do all that on my own. 😖.

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Mar 22, 2019 05:34:48   #
alphonso49uk
 
I upgraded from mavericks to high sierra.As usual following an upgrade I had a load of problems with the computer as a result but weirdly, no problems going from iphoto to photos.

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Mar 22, 2019 09:10:59   #
Phil Martin Loc: New Hampshire
 
I upgraded 3 computers to Mojave with no problems at all (from High Sierra). Mojave has some interesting and useful new features.

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Mar 22, 2019 09:32:00   #
warrenvon Loc: Ellicott City, MD
 
You may want to consider stopping your upgrade at High Sierra. Mojave will, in the near future, limit you to running ONLY 64 bit applications. The move from High Sierra to Mojave is not loses the few 32 bit apps that may not be upgraded to 64 bit. Some of those apps reside in Adobe support files amongst others.

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Mar 22, 2019 09:32:00   #
warrenvon Loc: Ellicott City, MD
 
You may want to consider stopping your upgrade at High Sierra. Mojave will, in the near future, limit you to running ONLY 64 bit applications. The move from High Sierra to Mojave is not loses the few 32 bit apps that may not be upgraded to 64 bit. Some of those apps reside in Adobe support files amongst others.

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Mar 22, 2019 10:11:41   #
LS Loc: Montana
 
warrenvon wrote:
You may want to consider stopping your upgrade at High Sierra. Mojave will, in the near future, limit you to running ONLY 64 bit applications. The move from High Sierra to Mojave is not loses the few 32 bit apps that may not be upgraded to 64 bit. Some of those apps reside in Adobe support files amongst others.


I was considering just this...thanks for your input.

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Mar 22, 2019 10:13:40   #
LS Loc: Montana
 
Phil Martin wrote:
I upgraded 3 computers to Mojave with no problems at all (from High Sierra). Mojave has some interesting and useful new features.


I find it interesting, and somewhat annoying, that all the support people and or repair people tell you it will be no problem, but when you ask real users they almost always have problems When installing new operating systems in older computers

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Mar 22, 2019 10:52:59   #
G. Crook Loc: Linden, TX
 
LS wrote:
I Need to upgrade my operating system so I can take Advantage of raw processing on my Nikon D850. I have Questions and Apple sends me to Adobe then Adobe sends me to Apple...Frustrating! Several “experts “ Recommend not going directly from the old OS to the new since there are several in between. Others say it is fine to go directly from Mavericks to Mojave. My other question is what happens to all the files and folders I have stored in bridge if adobe no longer supports my older versions of Photoshop and bridge? Is there a new version of bridge that comes along with the new version of Photoshop? I currently Use Photoshop CS 5.1 extended and the bridge version that goes with it, 5.1
I Need to upgrade my operating system so I can tak... (show quote)


Just got a new iMac, cane with High Sierra. Several days of usage and the upgrade to Mojave became available. I started the install and went to bed. The next morning I checked the install, no problems, everything was running as advertised. That was three weeks ago and have yet to find any issues.

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Mar 22, 2019 11:10:02   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
The latest upgrade/update is for computers made in 2012 or later.

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Mar 22, 2019 11:34:59   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
warrenvon wrote:
You may want to consider stopping your upgrade at High Sierra. Mojave will, in the near future, limit you to running ONLY 64 bit applications. The move from High Sierra to Mojave is not loses the few 32 bit apps that may not be upgraded to 64 bit. Some of those apps reside in Adobe support files amongst others.


Mojave won't be the limit. The NEXT version of Mac OS will be 64-bit only. Mojave just issues you a warning (nag dialog) when you first run a 32-bit app, and occasionally at startup thereafter.

Mojave did break quite a few older applications, some of which were 64-bit code. In my personal experience, that was a good thing, after I paid for new software or upgrades. The new apps are MUCH better, smoother, and more productive.

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Mar 22, 2019 11:36:34   #
FredCM Loc: Central Illinois
 
A big aggravation with my upgrade was Mojave threw away about 1/2 of my email contact addresses. Like when for JoeBlow@AOL.com, all I had to do is type Jo and the mail app would finish the address for you. So there are some people I lost contact with. Not a major deal, but a major aggravation. Mojave won't let me run GIMP directly because I didn't get it from the App Store (which doesn't carry GIMP anyway), I have jump through a couple of hoops. Photos is improved but still insists on its own order for the folder with all the pictures, an order that seems to be by date but it's not 100%.

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Mar 22, 2019 11:53:25   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
LS wrote:
I find it interesting, and somewhat annoying, that all the support people and or repair people tell you it will be no problem, but when you ask real users they almost always have problems When installing new operating systems in older computers


I'm a real user. I had no problems with migration to Mojave. However...

I bought a brand new SSD. I did surgery on my iMac and installed it (and doubled RAM to 16GB while in there).

I put the old startup drive in an external USB 3 connected enclosure, and booted the iMac from the external drive (just hold down OPTION at startup until you see a menu of available drives).

I downloaded the Mac OS 10.14.3 Mojave installer from Apple's web site to the old startup drive.

I used the installer to format the new drive as an APFS volume.

I installed a VIRGIN copy of Mac OS Mojave onto the new internal drive.

I rebooted the iMac to the new 2 TB SSD and used Apple Migration Assistant (from the Utilities folder in the Applications folder of the new drive) to move all my files and compatible software from the old startup drive over to the new one.

I upgraded or updated all the software to the latest versions. I deleted a couple of programs that won't run on Mojave (I still have them on the old startup drive, should I need them).

I did need to have handy my Apple ID and Password for iCloud/iTunes/App Store access.

I did need to have handy my Adobe ID and Password to reconnect the Creative Cloud app and Photography Bundle apps.

I did need to have handy my Microsoft ID and Password to register Office 365.

All the apps I ever bought on the App Store, that are still available and 64-bit clean, got updated (I turned on Auto Update).

I did have to manually update Firefox, VLC, Handbrake, SilkyPix Developer Studio, Graphic Converter 10, my Epson apps, Kindle Reader, Acrobat Reader DC, and a few utilities...

Once I had everything updated, I plugged in a new 2TB conventional hard drive and backed up EVERYTHING with Time Machine.

My system is ROCK SOLID. And it FEELS many times faster than it did when new.

I still get some nag dialogs about 32-bit apps "not being optimized for my computer", but I'm sure the developers will address them, one way or another, before Mac OS 10.15 (yet to be named) comes out this Fall.

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Mar 22, 2019 12:00:06   #
LS Loc: Montana
 
This has been another interesting and informative discussion. Sounds like my best bet will be to upgrade one or two steps and leave it at that for now. I don’t need RAW very much as the D850’s jpgs are pretty amazing. One thing I am curious about... is there a better success rate when having the OS (s) installed locally by a professional? Like can a slower internet connection have an impact on the success rate?

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