I was great with numbers until they started adding the alphabet.😎
danoliver wrote:
This new generation must be a bunch of idiots !!!!!
100% agree...My daughter called me one day to say the granddaughter was being bully'd....I said well...."go talk to their parents". The daughter said she couldn't.....it was happening on face-book/twitter!? ARE you kidding? shut the damn thing off!....(now, the granddaughter is in some group home for internet abused teens...BS I say.
fotkaman wrote:
How'bout the merchant's math: 35x12 is the same as 12x35
10x35=350
2x35= 70
Total - 420. Done! It can easily be done in head...
I use this method all the time - easy peasy!
John_F wrote:
All they did was to factor the equation: 35x12 = (30 + 5)x(10 + 2). 35 could be written as 5x7 and 12 as 2x6. What if 35 is a variable A and 12 is B. Suppose A is the sum or product of an exponential and a radical. Suppose further B is the sum or product of a sin or cosine or tangent and a line integral or a derivative. My point - lost in the woods.
That's easy for you to say...
I'm partial to "Jethro's" Gazentas........10 gazenta 20.......20 gazenta 40...... (Love them Hillbillys)
Huey Driver wrote:
Some of you old farts on the Hog
need to go back to school and learn this stuff This is some of what's being taught to your kids, etc. I'm sure when they graduate they will throw out the old math and use this in everyday living? Give me a break ! ! !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlfa5v3ullg...and they will NEVER use mental calculation which is pretty freaking fast.
traveler90712 wrote:
Interesting choice of numbers....420.....
Yes Traveler 420 a interesting number, be here before you know it.
Huey Driver wrote:
Some of you old farts on the Hog
need to go back to school and learn this stuff This is some of what's being taught to your kids, etc. I'm sure when they graduate they will throw out the old math and use this in everyday living? Give me a break ! ! !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlfa5v3ullgSomebody had a lot of time on their hands when they came up with that piece of insanity. And what is wrong with memorizing times tables? It worked for us and it worked a heck of a lot faster. Lazy brains. My son is 46. When he was in 4th grade he needed help with Math. Poor kid was as challenged as I was by numbers. So, I figured as long as it isn't Algebra or Geometry (did I spell that right?) we can do this. NOT! He opened his book, I took one look and hadn't a clue as to how they were teaching Math in the late '70s. To me, it looked like they were overcomplicating something that should be fairly simple. I mean, the way we learned had worked for hundreds maybe a thousand years or more. They must waste a lot of paper doing simple Math problems.
redlegfrog wrote:
You're scaring me!
Welcome to the club. I alternate between being scared and engaging in "creative cursing", then I do a few anger management exercises and go do something else.
Now you know why math achievement scores are so low. And reading is almost as bad.
To top it all off, the standardized tests that they use to measure proficiency, they kept rewriting and "renorming"* them.
*changing the grading and results - hint - they weren't making them harder.
When I retired in 2007 the California test that all students had to pass to get a high school diploma was at the 8th to 10th grade level depending on the subject of the test section. And so was the general education level test that people had to pass to get a teaching credential. Yet many had trouble passing it.
From the time I started teaching in the mid 70s until I retired the tests were renormed several times.
The school I taught at in the late 70s was one of the test schools for a new version of the test. We gave the students those tests a few years before they were put into effect statewide. My best friend on the faculty taught Composition and Writing to seniors as a college prep class. He got picked to be on the grading and evaluation committee for the English/Language Arts and Essay section of the test. He quit after a few sessions - he said they wanted him to grade the essays "holistically". If a student put their name, a title and made even an extremely poor start at writing something - they passed! They didn't need to make sense, have proper grammar, correct spelling or even finish.
robertjerl wrote:
Welcome to the club. I alternate between being scared and engaging in "creative cursing", then I do a few anger management exercises and go do something else.
Now you know why math achievement scores are so low. And reading is almost as bad.
To top it all off, the standardized tests that they use to measure proficiency, they kept rewriting and "renorming"* them.
*changing the grading and results - hint - they weren't making them harder.
When I retired in 2007 the California test that all students had to pass to get a high school diploma was at the 8th to 10th grade level depending on the subject of the test section. And so was the general education level test that people had to pass to get a teaching credential. Yet many had trouble passing it.
From the time I started teaching in the mid 70s until I retired the tests were renormed several times.
The school I taught at in the late 70s was one of the test schools for a new version of the test. We gave the students those tests a few years before they were put into effect statewide. My best friend on the faculty taught Composition and Writing to seniors as a college prep class. He got picked to be on the grading and evaluation committee for the English/Language Arts and Essay section of the test. He quit after a few sessions - he said they wanted him to grade the essays "holistically". If a student put their name, a title and made even an extremely poor start at writing something - they passed! They didn't need to make sense, have proper grammar, correct spelling or even finish.
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The only positive I can see to their line of mis-thinking (is that a word?) is all those passing scores sure enable teachers, principles, and superintendents to look just wonderful. And the ones who suffer for the absolutely illogical thinking, are the students. My nephew took both his kids out of public schools and is paying over $20,000 a year to send them to private schools. His wife went to work to pay for the education that their taxes should be paying for. This country is sooooooo scr***d.
2Dragons wrote:
The only positive I can see to their line of mis-thinking (is that a word?) is all those passing scores sure enable teachers, principles, and superintendents to look just wonderful. And the ones who suffer for the absolutely illogical thinking, are the students. My nephew took both his kids out of public schools and is paying over $20,000 a year to send them to private schools. His wife went to work to pay for the education that their taxes should be paying for. This country is sooooooo scr***d.
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No money for education because THE WALL is of higher priority!
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